Discontinued Supreme Vaporizer

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Alexis

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Great news all- Ed sent me an invoice this morning. I was so happy to get his messages. I couldnt wait to pay (literally). The Supreme v3 is coming to live with me in England!

I have never been so excited about a new vaporizer. I need to select a good torch now. I need to keep costs down. There are plenty for under £10 in UK but I dont want to pay for rubbish.

And I need to get a decent glass piece, ideally a large-ish bong with ice notches, and maybe some additional features. Nothing for the sake of show, purely function. I have no real experience with glass pieces and the pros and cons of different chambers etc, when it comes to choosing.

I dont like too much drag. I like the look of @IAmKrazy2 's one in his 3 minute 48s youtube video. He says its a triple chamber. It looks really easy to milk and get huge hits effortlessly.

If anybody has any favorite gass pieces for good hits with the Supreme, I will be all ears! Especially for cheap but quality pieces on dhgate. I have looked through so many but its hard to know what I want with so little experience.

I cant tell you how excited I am about welcoming the Supreme into my life. Thank you passionately to everybody who has contributed to this forum, and to all those who helped me make my decision.

Most of all though, the massivest thankyou to Ed G for what he has done to design this vaporizer, for being there on the end of an email, and importantly for agreeing to post to me!
 
anasrzi

anasrzi

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Happy to hear this @Alexis you will love the supreme I mean fall in love with it, after a few months of using it nothing else comes close and I've used many vapes over the years, some cheaper some much more expensive and the supreme blows them out of the water. Eds a good guy and was very helpful to me as well being in the uk with little in the way of knowledge of how to order, he came thu very fast with all the answers to my inane questions, very nice fella.

Just need your torch and glass huh. Can't help much with the glass ware apart from to say go onto dhgate and see what you think, many FCers buy glass that way it's all perfectly good stuff, many pieces are good for flavour or low on drag etc there's a glass thread here somewhere, so I'd get reading and asking for exactly what you want. Torch wise I went for a chefs torch for creme brûlée and the like only £6 online, many others to choose from depending on your price range but that one works fine for me I'm ready to blast off in less than 90 seconds flat :)

Enjoy your new purchase, any questions I'm sure we'll be able to help.
 
MinnBobber

MinnBobber

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Alexis said:
And I need to get a decent glass piece, ideally a large-ish bong with ice notches, and maybe some additional features. Nothing for the sake of show, purely function. I have no real experience with glass pieces and the pros and cons of different chambers etc, when it comes to choosing.
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I don't have a Supreme yet but my opinion on glass for vaping: and ?? for you:
- are you more interested in max max hits OR best flavor possible?
I'm a flavor chaser so very strongly prefer a small can (main chamber on bubbler) and minimal diffusion perc. This gives best flavor yet still moisturizes the vapor and much easier pulls vs dry.

Big chambers and multiple chambers and percs with a zillion holes and multiple percs cause some flavor loss but allow gonzo megs hits, if that's your objective.

I sold my piece with ice notches as that's the wrong direction---for me and my preferences. Ice cools the vapor BUT cool vapor condenses out more onto your glass and cool vapor, for me, is much drier on the throat/lungs.
Vapor thru warm water actually can feel good on the throat and lungs. Cold vapor, to me, feels good for the first hit but then turns very very dry/causing bad feeling in my throat.

It would be nice if you could try both "styles" before you buy so you don't get the wrong glass for you...
any vaping buddies??
 
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Alexis

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MinnBobber said:
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I don't have a Supreme yet but my opinion on glass for vaping: and ?? for you:
- are you more interested in max max hits OR best flavor possible?
I'm a flavor chaser so very strongly prefer a small can (main chamber on bubbler) and minimal diffusion perc. This gives best flavor yet still moisturizes the vapor and much easier pulls vs dry.

Big chambers and multiple chambers and percs with a zillion holes and multiple percs cause some flavor loss but allow gonzo megs hits, if that's your objective.

I sold my piece with ice notches as that's the wrong direction---for me and my preferences. Ice cools the vapor BUT cool vapor condenses out more onto your glass and cool vapor, for me, is much drier on the throat/lungs.
Vapor thru warm water actually can feel good on the throat and lungs. Cold vapor, to me, feels good for the first hit but then turns very very dry/causing bad feeling in my throat.

It would be nice if you could try both "styles" before you buy so you don't get the wrong glass for you...
any vaping buddies??
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Thanks very much that really is very helpful. You ask the right questions which I dont even know to ask myself. I am a bit clueless here despite being a long time cannabis user and vaporizer (if that term is valid).
I have been really unwell since 2005 and kind of had my life stripped back heavily in terms of what is possible in life. I have old friends but am never well enough to see them really,,and only one of them vaporizes. He owns a Herborizer xl, as do I. Nothing else glass or vape wise.

No other vaping buddies, hence my lack of experience with glass. Your advice gives me a helpful and clearer perspective. In that case, and I trust what you say, I will not be too concerned about ice. I mean the Supreme is said to be very cool and smooth anyway for a start.

With ice, its just the emphasis they put on it at Vriptech, and their quest has always been the best vapor experience.
I guess I want flavor as well too an extent, but in my gut I yearn for that monster hitting potential, even if I dont intend to use it. But like you suggest, trying eome gots and bobs out would be ideal to get an idea. I have bought 2 glass pieces from dhgate: a double homeycomb bong for vaporizer use- I couldnt use it. It was such heavy drag, exhausting and couldnt even get decent hits.

Recently I bpught the D2020 bubbler for using with Vapcaps and my Herborizer. It is vetyblow drag with the herborizer, and works well to give big hits easily with little inhalation.
That I like. I owned a Verdamper for 7 years and it was just so easy to get huge hits into your lungs without having to work for it. I have excellent breath control and can moderate my draw easily.
What concerns me with those multiple chamber and hole pieces is that I get one with high drag, which is hard work and not enjoyable. And I havent really grasped what they are all about.
If I can at least de-prioritize ice then that widens the selection a lot. I could get a small ice notch bong on dhgate and try it out. Just a case of money as always, and having to think carefully first.
Im sure the Supreme will work fine with the D 2020 bubbler. I have been using it to vaporize essential oils on hemp fiber to manage allergies. But it is not so pleasant after it has had weed go though it, so I am washing it up daily for the allergy treatment. So ideally I would want a small glass piece just for the essential oils.
I want to check out the glass thread and get educated. I will give this some thought, your viewpoint has helped me get going thanks.
The D 2020 bubbler does work really well with the Herborizer for large hits, better than the Herborizer sphere. More open, but a shorter air path and less water so it is a bit more irritating to throat.

The Verdamper was so harsh on my sensitive lungs. It just wouldnt be an option for me to use it. But I loved, and miss, it's power. The Supreme sounds like the perfect ticket, super power but much cooler and smoother. But strangely, I never had throat irritation from the Verdamper, no matter how bad my chest was.
I always thought it was to do with the tiny amount of time you actually spend inh,aing the heated air, compared to other less powerful vaporizers where you are filling your lungs constantly.

But I wonder now if it was down to the Verdamper glass design. It was big, a long vapor path, very easy draw, no restriction. Super noisy bubbles! It was deep too, I always had the water about 8 inches deep. In the Herborizer glass sphere, I put in 500 ml water, and this cools it more than the D 2020 which has a small capacity.
So I will likely go for a fair water capacity if I can but I may be wrong about that.
Back to Herborizer (for now) in D 2020. Im getting some monster hits, really no effort, but I'd much rather be using the Supreme of course!
Thanks for the insight.
 
Alexis,
MinnBobber

MinnBobber

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Alexis said:
I want to check out the glass thread and get educated. I will give this some thought, your viewpoint has helped me get going thanks.
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Before you go off and spend needlessly, why not try your D 020 when the Supreme arrives? It's a very effective bubbler!

Even before then, try two experiments:
1. with no weed, try the D bubbler with warm water---take some pulls and again with hot water. People with throat/lung irritation use vaporizers with hot misty moist water vapor as it soothes the throat/lungs. Doesn't that air run thru warm or hot water make it feel better?
2. then try your Herborizer with whatever felt better, warm or hot water. Better, the same, or worse than room temp water?? I help some folks get started with vaping and 90% liked warm or hot water better. For 10%, they were just naturally adverse to that and liked room temp bubbler water better.

FYI, my throat and lungs are not super sensitive so I mostly use room temp as it is perfectly fine BUT when I want the ultimate vape experience I heat the water in the microwave and add to bubbler.

I don't think you NEED another bubbler so try what you have first and see what technique/temp works best for you.
good luck and let us know----and how your new Supreme performs!!!
 
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Alexis

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MinnBobber said:
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Before you go off and spend needlessly, why not try your D 020 when the Supreme arrives? It's a very effective bubbler!

Even before then, try two experiments:
1. with no weed, try the D bubbler with warm water---take some pulls and again with hot water. People with throat/lung irritation use vaporizers with hot misty moist water vapor as it soothes the throat/lungs. Doesn't that air run thru warm or hot water make it feel better?
2. then try your Herborizer with whatever felt better, warm or hot water. Better, the same, or worse than room temp water?? I help some folks get started with vaping and 90% liked warm or hot water better. For 10%, they were just naturally adverse to that and liked room temp bubbler water better.

FYI, my throat and lungs are not super sensitive so I mostly use room temp as it is perfectly fine BUT when I want the ultimate vape experience I heat the water in the microwave and add to bubbler.

I don't think you NEED another bubbler so try what you have first and see what technique/temp works best for you.
good luck and let us know----and how your new Supreme performs!!!
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Thanks again, all very clear and appropriate. I had actually just reached that conclusion. I will use the D 020, (I got its name muddled up, like 20 20 vision).
Its just it looks so glamorous and enticing to see large pieces milked up, but I dont need that right away.

I will try what you recommend with the water temp. I did try hot water once but I felt it wasnt helping, but I should experiment more. I do steam inhalations everyday to cope with the most severe allergies. With esential oils and boiled water. If it cools down too much, the oils arent nearly as effective. The steam gets the oils spread out and in higher comcentration on a fast route into the lungs. In the world of essential oil steam inhalation that is, but maybe applicable.
That steam is very helpful and in no way causes a problem. It only helps ,but you can cause irritation if it is too hot of course.
So I can see the potential and logic to hot water.
Thanks again for helpimg me clarify things, I have a murky brain. I have until November 20th when I mustbtake a 5 week break from vaporising to take a homeopathy course to treat multiple infections. So with luck the Supreme may arrive before that.
 
natural farmer

natural farmer

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Guys? Any of you using the supreme with a j-hook for best efficiency, potency and taste (less condensation...)? I guess if you don't fill it up and use up to 0.1g it won't be that harsh, right?

I hate cleaning bongs and bubblers....
 
BadDog No

BadDog No

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natural farmer said:
Guys? Any of you using the supreme with a j-hook for best efficiency, potency and taste (less condensation...)? I guess if you don't fill it up and use up to 0.1g it won't be that harsh, right?

I hate cleaning bongs and bubblers....
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I'm assuming you haven't tried the Supreme yet? It's not that you need big volume to deal with harshness; it's that each rip is so thick. You really need a little (OK, maybe a lot) diffusion just to take it in. My best experience with the Supreme was doing a one hitter through an MFLB Orbiter out a whip (not one of those skinny MFLBs, but a widebody DDave)and then into a fancy bubbler. Even then I'd have to break it into two hits. Maybe I'm just a lightweight, but the idea of using a Jhook (even with a little water at the bend) elicits more fear than anticipation. Damn thing is that strong...
 
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natural farmer

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BadDog No said:
I'm assuming you haven't tried the Supreme yet? It's not that you need big volume to deal with harshness; it's that each rip is so thick. You really need a little (OK, maybe a lot) diffusion just to take it in. My best experience with the Supreme was doing a one hitter through an MFLB Orbiter out a whip (not one of those skinny MFLBs, but a widebody DDave)and then into a fancy bubbler. Even then I'd have to break it into two hits. Maybe I'm just a lightweight, but the idea of using a Jhook (even with a little water at the bend) elicits more fear than anticipation. Damn thing is that strong...
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So, is it as harsh as a Volcano bag at high temp? That is the harshest experience I ever had I think... I can take Solo hits at 7 but Volcano ruins my throat big time. I am sure it has to do with the quantity of herbs as well. 0.2gr vaped at 220° is not the same as a whole gram vaped at the same temp... :p

Edit: How much is the usual load again?
 
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CheeseSandwich

CheeseSandwich

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natural farmer said:
Guys? Any of you using the supreme with a j-hook for best efficiency, potency and taste (less condensation...)? I guess if you don't fill it up and use up to 0.1g it won't be that harsh, right?

I hate cleaning bongs and bubblers....
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I use mine with a j hook often. It works excellent IMO. Don't even need the grommet ( @lazylathe idea I think?) as the bottom just fits nice into a 14mm female.

natural farmer said:
So, is it as harsh as a Volcano bag at high temp? That is the harshest experience I ever had I think... I can take Solo hits at 7 but Volcano ruins my throat big time. I am sure it has to do with the quantity of herbs as well. 0.2gr vaped at 220° is not the same as a whole gram vaped at the same temp... :p

Edit: How much is the usual load again?
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I don't find the supreme to be harsh at all. Just the immense hits it produces!
 
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kimura

kimura

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I also used my S3 with just a j-hook, exclusively. I didn't find it harsh at all. The only challenge is the sheer volume of vapor, which I doubt is going to mitigated with water filtration. Your lung capacity kinda is what it is (although it can be increased!). Anyway, no worries at all hitting the S3 dry, but I would start with a half load.

Full disclosure - I have abandoned water filtration altogether with all vapes
 
IAmKrazy2

IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
Alexis said:
I dont like too much drag. I like the look of @IAmKrazy2 's one in his 3 minute 48s youtube video. He says its a triple chamber. It looks really easy to milk and get huge hits effortlessly.
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Forgot about this video. I knew i did the HD Supreme 3 review but forgot about this cell phone vid.

The piece in question is the HiSi Triple Chamber. When filled all with water it does have a lot of drag, but when left empty on the bottom it has minimal filtration and a huge vapor chamber for massive hits!

 
anasrzi

anasrzi

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Thinking of getting one of these for the mighty supreme v3 but with all this talk of filtration vs flavour, water filtered vs dry hits im unsure about this setup? Can anyone help? Normally I hit it dry thru a roor bong without a down pipe, it works just fine but I can't clear a bowl in one hit it's either to thick (possibly) or to irritating (most likely) because of a lack of water in the mix.

I'm all about the flavour so I want all or if not all most of the flavour coming thru, again I'm not sure on glass ware so any advice would be greatly appreciated :) want a pice that looks the part as well.

Vapexhale rip off including hydrabase
http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-t...m-tall-vapexhale/388645300.html#mfavit-1-null

Colourful unit I quite fancy
http://www.dhgate.com/product/two-function-wholesale-color-glass-bongs/216310607.html#mfavit-2-null
 
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Alexis

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anasrzi said:
Thinking of getting one of these for the mighty supreme v3 but with all this talk of filtration vs flavour, water filtered vs dry hits im unsure about this setup? Can anyone help? Normally I hit it dry thru a roor bong without a down pipe, it works just fine but I can't clear a bowl in one hit it's either to thick (possibly) or to irritating (most likely) because of a lack of water in the mix.

I'm all about the flavour so I want all or if not all most of the flavour coming thru, again I'm not sure on glass ware so any advice would be greatly appreciated :) want a pice that looks the part as well.

Vapexhale rip off including hydrabase
http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-t...m-tall-vapexhale/388645300.html#mfavit-1-null

Colourful unit I quite fancy
http://www.dhgate.com/product/two-function-wholesale-color-glass-bongs/216310607.html#mfavit-2-null
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It sounds like we have something in common here. I am also very naive when it comes to glass pieces etc. I have little experience with variety so I really dont actually know what I want or what Im looking for. I have the D 020 bubbler already, that will certainly get me started.
But I really want a larger, and more spectacular piece for milkinv large rips, and also without having to get so close in to a small bubbler or raise up to mouth.

Thats why I like the one in the video by @IAmKrazy2. A big thanks to him for informing me it is the Hisi Triple Chamber. Nice and sturdy as well.
Hisi pieces are well pricey thouh. Realistically I shouldnt spend much nore than £50.

http://m.dhgate.com/product/bong-bongs-water-pipes-bongs-hi-si-glass/261914980.html#pd-019
I found this model on dhgate. It is 12 inches, but way cheaper than the big triple chamber one.
But this dhgate one is sold out. It was more than I would want to spend, but I reckon it could tempt me if available.
So I will take my time and see if I can come across something which I think will be just right, and hopefully still quite cheap if Im lucky!

Edit: I have ordrered this torch from AmazonUK. It seems to be suitable not as cheap as some of the options at £14.99, but Im hoping slightly better quality.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01CCA4ER0/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item
 
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lazylathe

lazylathe

Almost there...
@anasrzi @Alexis

I use my S3 with water mainly and find flavor to be just as good as dry.
For me the biggest destroyer of flavor is an unclean piece and with the S3 this happens quite quickly.
Depending on use i may do a hot water rinse every two days to keep things on point, but that's just me!

I have also gone through a LOT of water tools and have finally found one that is universal to my vapes and my needs!
It is the RooR Vapor Tube:
http://roor.de/roor-vapor-p-297.html

It has a 10 hole perc in the bottom and that is it!
Fill to just above the holes and the S3 whitewalls it every time!
It gets used with all my big hitter vapes as the smaller vapes cannot fill the tube.
Less filtration = better flavor.

I am also quite interested in this here as it seems to have very little filtration:
http://www.dhgate.com/product/wf-11...t-of/371953111.html#s1-15-1b;searl|3845135598
 
anasrzi

anasrzi

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Think we're in the same boat @Alexis with regard the glass ware, I too want something spectacular to look at, to white wall and pump out so much cloud you think your 8 miles high (which you will be after the first inhalation on the mighty S3 ;)). Much like you I want to keep my head further way from the hot metal parts so a big unit would be great for that.

I'm thinking with regard flavour that even air diffusion will help to condition the vapour more, levelling it out so it's not quite as coughable, not that I cough overly like the first time. Flavour killer is to do with cleanliness @lazylathe for me too, I clean my S3 tubes after a weekend of use using ISO, hot water and Q tips (cotton buds as we call them) cleans very fast and easy, same goes with my roor bong. Just love flavour it's primary for me, do enjoy clouds don't get me wrong but they are a close second.
 
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Herr_Dampf

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My favourite piece of glass to use with the S3 or any other vape is my Crystal Fog Glassworks Gridded Inline to Honeycomb. Smooth hit, excellent taste, no coughing except on those one-hit full tubes :D
Also super comfortable to hit due to the mouthpiece position.

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