Super Surfer Vaporizer

[grokit]

I like bags enough to pick up a zephyr ion when it was half price, about $240 iirc. And I have no complaints regarding it, I like the unit and the bag system. But for $40 more I would probably have picked this up instead, had the timing been different. Mainly because I am a fan of 7th floor products in general. I gotta say I am surprised about this drop not being more successful, I know they wanted to crowdsource it and that didn't work out very well either. I hope this doesn't negatively affect the company moving forward.

 

[Vital]

There are those that love the ceramic element from 7th Floor.
These are vaporists that always said: "I wish they could make a fan inside of the SSV... If they make one I am there".
Not everyone likes bags.
I only like them sometimes.
There have been less people here at my home since I had my problem here......
Under normal conditions by now, hundreds would have seen the SSSV and tried it.
As it stands, with reduced traffic at home... after having the SSSV here for 2 months 16 people have seen and tried it. Five out of the 16 decided they had to have one.
Remember though these are moderate to sever patients and older, so perhaps the use of the fan assist whip appealed to them.
Personally, I have been using the SSSV over my #1 go-to vape the Standard SSV in some situations.

1. When I want an easy hit without working my lungs.
2. When I want a small fast hit, I can max the temp for a quick bag.
3. When I want to conserve meds. The SSV is allowing me to place a tiny pinch of meds, and fills a small bag, or gives me a couple big rips with ease.

Not every vape is for everyone, but this baby has a sweet spot in my current line-up.

P.S.-
Not one person I showed the SSSV to, had ever seen or heard of it. We here at FC are in unique position to be in the know on new technology!

Hi Vitolo,

How are you holding up?

Is there a way to disable the lightshow?

 

[Vitolo]

Thanks, Vital.....
through meditation, strict budgeting, clinical psychology, closeness with each other, and focus.....
...we seem to be moving forward.

Light show disabling -
Yes... easily.
Hold button down for a few seconds, and it turns completely off.

 

[Vital]

Thanks, Vital.....
through meditation, strict budgeting, clinical psychology, closeness with each other, and focus.....
...we seem to be moving forward.

Light show disabling -
Yes... easily.
Hold button down for a few seconds, and it turns completely off.

That's so great to hear!

So you like it better than the SSV and LSV? You think its as well made as the SSV? (Rumor had it they were being contracted from China)

 

[Herb-nerd]

The heater to load proximity is much the same as with the SSV.
As vitolo said, the lights can be disabled should you or anyone you know be allergic

The build quality is the same, though with the addition of plastic (semi-opaque base) you can no longer run your unit over and expect it to be intact.

I believe the units are still made in the USA. They are checked and tested for quality assurance just as the SSV, LSV and DBV are.

 

[Vital]

The heater to load proximity is much the same as with the SSV.
As vitolo said, the lights can be disabled should you or anyone you know be allergic

The build quality is the same, though with the addition of plastic (semi-opaque base) you can no longer run your unit over and expect it to be intact.

I believe the units are still made in the USA. They are checked and tested for quality assurance just as the SSV, LSV and DBV are.

Is the power cord removable? It looks like it in some of the pictures...

 

[Vapor Loop]

I like bags enough to pick up a zephyr ion when it was half price, about $240 iirc. And I have no complaints regarding it, I like the unit and the bag system. But for $40 more I would probably have picked this up instead, had the timing been different. Mainly because I am a fan of 7th floor products in general. I gotta say I am surprised about this drop not being more successful, I know they wanted to crowdsource it and that didn't work out very well either. I hope this doesn't negatively affect the company moving forward.

I missed out on the Ion myself. I didn't really like the idea there was no way to mimic the Eq elbow pack on that one, But the Super not really selling on it's drop is a bit shocking. I really wish i was able to get in on this one, They will probably have it on sale around Xmas.



I have a question about oil use in it. I noticed before it was supposed to include the oil kit like you get for the Dbv and Ssv, But it now say's ceramic flavor discs for that, Can we get a clip of oil usage for this one pictures anything?

 

[Herb-nerd]

Is the power cord removable? It looks like it in some of the pictures...

No it is not removeable, though i wouldn't like to see a kettle lead on my vape, they are chunky.
My vaporizer is is grounded (as it should be) and therefore cant use the normal figure of 8 or two-pin that double insulated units use.

You could have a removeable power chord but it would need to be the larger c13/14 coupler rather than the smaller c7/8 i imagine you envision.

I for one prefer a grounded metallic housing over a removable power cord.

I missed out on the Ion myself. I didn't really like the idea there was no way to mimic the Eq elbow pack on that one, But the Super not really selling on it's drop is a bit shocking. I really wish i was able to get in on this one, They will probably have it on sale around Xmas.



I have a question about oil use in it. I noticed before it was supposed to include the oil kit like you get for the Dbv and Ssv, But it now say's ceramic flavor discs for that, Can we get a clip of oil usage for this one pictures anything?

Cold you point me to where it says ceramic flavour disks for oil?
We are working a HC for the concentrate kit for the Super at the moment

 

[Vital]

No it is not removeable, though i wouldn't like to see a kettle lead on my vape, they are chunky.
My vaporizer is is grounded (as it should be) and therefore cant use the normal figure of 8 or two-pin that double insulated units use.

You could have a removeable power chord but it would need to be the larger c13/14 coupler rather than the smaller c7/8 i imagine you envision.

I for one prefer a grounded metallic housing over a removable power cord.

Actually I thought it was more like an electric guitar jack from the pictures that show it with no cord attached.

 

[Vapor Loop]

Cold you point me to where it says ceramic flavour disks for oil?
We are working a HC for the concentrate kit for the Super at the moment

It's in the included check list on the drop and on the 7th floor page.

 

[Vital]

Cold you point me to where it says ceramic flavour disks for oil?
We are working a HC for the concentrate kit for the Super at the moment

It's also in the video that 7th floor released.

 

[Vitolo]

So you like it better than the SSV and LSV? You think its as well made as the SSV? (Rumor had it they were being contracted from China)

As @Herb-nerd says... the quality is there.

Is the power cord removable? It looks like it in some of the pictures...

No, it is solidly connected

I have a question about oil use in it. I noticed before it was supposed to include the oil kit like you get for the Dbv and Ssv,

It comes with an aroma diffuser.
@Vital , in response to your main question....
I do like my SSV.. standard HC... hand held wand, best of all.
It is the first vape I hit in the morning, and last one to be used at bedtime.
My original sat on 24/7 for 5 years.
Up to 1 or 2 on the dial at 5 a.m.------ Down to low at 10 pm
It's life was interrupted by the incident or it would still be on!
The unit that replaced it is on 24/7 also.
Back on topic...
My SSSV is "on" 24/7 also- only it is set at the bottom... and turned up when I want to use it.
That honestly stays cool enough to touch, but at the same time makes heat-up super fast.
Once the SSSV is up to heat, I generally leave it there for a couple of hours, but I turn it down after a time, as I "change up" delivery systems.
I find that I can do much smaller loads .. tiny pinches more efficiently with the SSSV than with the Surfer.
When I want it faster, and there is just a pinch laying there, that is where I go.
In the HC there is no hole in the throat... as there is in the standard SSV.
this means air is drawn over the entirety of the glowing element, and it comes out superheated in a way that is not the same dynamic as the Surfer.

I still am very attached to my favorite however!

 

[Vital]

As @Herb-nerd says... the quality is there.

No, it is solidly connected

It comes with an aroma diffuser.
@Vital , in response to your main question....
I do like my SSV.. standard HC... hand held wand, best of all.
It is the first vape I hit in the morning, and last one to be used at bedtime.
My original sat on 24/7 for 5 years.
Up to 1 or 2 on the dial at 5 a.m.------ Down to low at 10 pm
It's life was interrupted by the incident or it would still be on!
The unit that replaced it is on 24/7 also.
Back on topic...
My SSSV is "on" 24/7 also- only it is set at the bottom... and turned up when I want to use it.
That honestly stays cool enough to touch, but at the same time makes heat-up super fast.
Once the SSSV is up to heat, I generally leave it there for a couple of hours, but I turn it down after a time, as I "change up" delivery systems.
I find that I can do much smaller loads .. tiny pinches more efficiently with the SSSV than with the Surfer.
When I want it faster, and there is just a pinch laying there, that is where I go.
In the HC there is no hole in the throat... as there is in the standard SSV.
this means air is drawn over the entirety of the glowing element, and it comes out superheated in a way that is not the same dynamic as the Surfer.

I still am very attached to my favorite however!

I'm sorry that you had your SSV taken from you. I'm sure it must have been like losing a good friend.

Does the SSSV come the spherical ground glass heater cover and wand, or is it different?

 

[Vitolo]

yes, the two included wands are both spherical, and the HC is also....
socket/ball.......axon/dendrite........parabola
there is a spherical wand with whip... and a shorter spherical wand with female 18mm on end

 

[KidFated.]

@Herb-nerd whats the repair fee after the 1 year warranty is up? Is the massdrop covered by you guys? My brother was looking into it.

 

[Herb-nerd]

Repair fee: i will need to look into that.
The massdrop is covered by our warranty, as per.

As for the the guitar jack power lead, on the surface it appears logical. However grabbing a jack like that with your hand when the other end is connected to 110V-240V will kill you DED.
There is no insulation what-so-ever in a connector like that, that's why when you grab one when it's connected to a guitar amp you hear a-lot of noise caused by the skin bridging the individual sections of the connector and respective wires.

Something to that effect would be highly illegal to sell in Europe and in the US no doubt.

There are many constrains when it comes to design and production of products, one being the laws defining the safe manufacture and use of consumer electrical goods.

When it comes to removeable power leads, you either use the pre-existing 3-pin bulky bastard, double insulate and use the 2-pin (i wouldn't like to use a unit with that configuration, period) or hunt for a proprietary connector (think apple's magnetic connector).
Even if i were to design and test a connector i came up with, i am sure i would need to jump through many many hoops to have it verified as safe and certified accordingly.

I wish it were as simple as it seems, my job would be a whole lot easier. But unfortunately making a bad decision on something like this would result in a fatality, lawsuit and impending doom humanity no doubt.

EDIT: i can see the ceramic flavour disks on the site, i was thrown off as i didn't get sent any with mine, but that will be because i have a box of them sat here and it was pre-release haha.
I love the flavour disks on top of a bowl of bud in my lsv with some nice oil to mix things up.
I will likely be doing the same with my SuSV when i manage to blast in the next week, though i wont be filling bags with that.

When i look at my oil rig and see the all the reclaim, it really irritates the OCD in me

I would have to hide all sharp objects and lengths of rope/string if i were to blow some concentrate vapour efflux into a bag and then see any residue building up inside it as it sits.
Just the thought is making me want to curl up into a ball.
I'll be sticking to the whip for oil, hash is a different story. It all comes down to the colloidal make up of concentrate vapour and its likelihood to re-adhere to itself and surrounding surfaces.

 

[VapourHaze]

Love my ssv but i think 7th floor have seriously dropped the ball on this one? Time will tell? ...

 

[Tweak]

Time will tell? ...

I kinda agree, but this is exactly what happened when they released the LSV, not much fanfare.

I would love to try one but there is no way I'm spending that much on one when I already own a kickass SSV and LSV. Really interested in the fan's performance. I'd love a fan assisted hit.

 

[Herb-nerd]

If presented with the choice to purchase a desktop vape all over, i would be picking the SuSV over the SSV and forking out the extra for the forced-air. Assuming others follow a similar thought process, this should be a good addition to the line.

It really does convince you in person, i can't put my finger on it but the pictures just dont do it justice, the lights and the finish.

 

[howie105]

Not being a fan of lights or bags those features are not high on my list. I am hoping that I am missing some change that improves on results I am looking for, taste (already good) and production quality. So I am waiting on a larger scale verdict from new users. GO NEW BUYERS!

 

[Herb-nerd]

Ill do my best in the next week or so to upload a bunch of videos and try explain the details of the unit.
There's isn't much out there to give confidence to the customer as my planned videos were halted by my double clumsiness (tipped an entire table of glass, not just one piece). Postage to the UK from the US isn't quick.
Though i will also be able to supply all 7th floor accessories to the EU from the UK in the near future.

@howie105 The changes are the forced air and the lighting. So if you aren't looking to use forced-air, then this wont be an upgrade to suit you.

That being said, i would let my SSV's go as i have the SuSV which out-performs the SSV in whip use. Simply because you can use the fan to assist your draw. I wonder if Dabs would be different if you blasted it into the lungs faster. Probably just involve a-lot more coughing hahaha.

In my opinion, this vape is for those who want forced air in their SSV/Whip set-up or someone who is considering an SSV but might also want the option use bags.
I guess what i am saying is that i would imagine the biggest buyers will be 7th floor fans who love their SSV and wish to augment the collection or upgrade and trade/sell the old unit and new customers.


If anyone has any questions about any aspect of the unit, i will be happy to answer and help inform.

 

[Herb-nerd]

I taped my glass using high temperature transformer insulation tape, good for 250C.





Still not good, but i felt i had to get something up until the replacement came (ill blame my dyspraxia that i didn't even realize was a thing until last year haha).


I used a ceramic flavour disk i ground down to half thickness with a hemisphere or dome on one side, i find this spreads the heat and stops hot-spot resulting in much less stirring.


My stocks are low, so i used half vaped bud under my fresh load - i do not recommend. It didn't taste very good.

Here is the video - forced air being used with the whip. The flavour disk lets me use a higher temperature to roast further into the bowl while preventing the top from combustion by acting as a heatsink that sits at around 200C (in my set-up).
The hit i get is actually much thicker than appears on cam, but i didn't set up the light nor do i usually. If i need to ill post a picture of my face as proof

Click the pic

Tomorrow ill do a better video with some bags and also before and after shots of the bud after filling a bag and also the different with and without the ceramic disk.

 

[mrbonsai420]

Looking at this and a few others for a new table top vape. I use a Pax for portability right now (looking at the new Haze) and still have my old school Vapor Tower (works great actually) as my only flower vape tools. I know I'm way behind in tech and that's probably why I still smoke quite a bit of flower instead of always vaping. I would like to move to Vaping flower (and concentrates)only if I can find the best units to do this with, or at least replace some of my many joints, bong hits and Pinch hits! Would you guys give this a shot or is there a better one to go with for the money? I may see if the prices drop on this one for Christmas due to slow sales.

 

[Hot Dog Day 187]

Looking at this and a few others for a new table top vape. I use a Pax for portability right now (looking at the new Haze) and still have my old school Vapor Tower (works great actually) as my only flower vape tools. I know I'm way behind in tech and that's probably why I still smoke quite a bit of flower instead of always vaping. I would like to move to Vaping flower (and concentrates)only if I can find the best units to do this with, or at least replace some of my many joints, bong hits and Pinch hits! Would you guys give this a shot or is there a better one to go with for the money? I may see if the prices drop on this one for Christmas due to slow sales.

While I'm very happy with my SSV i -might- think about one of these if a black friday sale comes along as i'm a bit curious about the fan assist. not much other reason i would imagine getting one though. kind of hoping i'd get it and not regret a penny i spent.

 

[grokit]

I'm happy with my ssv & zephyr ion, but if I had known about this first...