Suggestions for a glass piece

[SD_haze]

Good point, I didn't imply that their design was flawed, I just did not understand the idea of a natural stemless design. I would say a gridded stemline would be the better, albeit more expensive, alternative.

Now just need to find a good ac. How does that small inline work with the j hook?

Your average affordable stemless piece is extremely chuggy, and when you're using a piece with a vaporizer, the airflow can impact how it hits. Some vaporizers are more sensitive to this than others.


I would say the only percolation designs that can be too chuggy for some vaporizers are:
-non-diffused open hole downstem
-poorly made basic stemless
-poorly made big-holed inline

yeah I looked at some grav labs stuff too. Like I said, I really like that ash catcher. It doesn't have much diffusion (or any reviews), but it's a nice small piece that looks perfect for stemless designs.

Its a great price on the ashcatcher but being not glass-on-glass would only work for a handful of vaporizers (Underdog should though)

 

[kingofnull]

Its a great price on the ashcatcher but being not glass-on-glass would only work for a handful of vaporizers (Underdog should though)

Yeah I'd keep it as a combustion bowl. Then again, I like using a carbon filter, so it really wouldn't work for me.

 

[Lou]

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Your average affordable stemless piece is extremely chuggy, and when you're using a piece with a vaporizer, the airflow can impact how it hits. Some vaporizers are more sensitive to this than others.


I would say the only percolation designs that can be too chuggy for some vaporizers are:
-non-diffused open hole downstem
-poorly made basic stemless
-poorly made big-holed inline


Its a great price on the ashcatcher but being not glass-on-glass would only work for a handful of vaporizers (Underdog should though)

I don't understand how it wouldnt be glass on glass? All the grav labs acs are gong. I was looking at their Phoenix ac, but noticed it also worked via natural perc. Also it's almost the same prices as ssfgs small inline, which seems like a no brainer unless you want everything to match.

I'm glad I didn't order one for a few reasons, namely because I am still unclear on all the downstem/joint measurements. I went back and looked at a bunch of zob, syn, hvy etc stuff and noticed some use all 14 mm, some 18/14, and some all 18. Now I think the consensus is that an 18 mm ( female) joint is preferable as it allows a faster clear or less drag or something. However, the piece I ordered states a 14/18 downstem with a 14 mm slide. I guess this means the bowl has a 14mm gg end, and the downstem is 18mm at the end that goes in the water? I don't really understand why it wouldn't just be 14 or 18 in every connection. Also would I use a 14 mm ac or replacement bowl? Would a replacement downstem change this? (obviously you can't change the size of the hole going into the beaker, is that referred to as the female joint?)

 

[kingofnull]

I think the bowl on the grav labs a/c is built in, hence not gong female.

Your water pipe is probably 18 mm. The diffuser is probably 14/18 reducer - it'll fit an 18 mm joint, but the downstem itself accepts 14 mm male gong. Most slides I've seen are 14 mm, though folks do make 18 mm slides.

Its a good idea to stock up on some 14/18 expanders and 18/14 reducers, that way all your future pieces will be compatible. I'd reccomend oregonglassblower on iOffer, unless you can find them cheaper elsewhere.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

I had Ray custom make my mini inline. Its a 14mm male and 18mm female. It adds a bit of front end weight, but I really wanted that opening for the ac. It definitely helps out on the clear, to the point of the downstem, which of course... is 14mm. But, I still prefer it setup like it is. It has a very unique feel and for my preference, is perfect amount of drag, for proper feedback.

P.S. oregonglassblower is the MAN! Plus, he starts throwing in little freebies with repeat orders. He sent me a set of the nice keck clips, with my last order (a 14mm whip adapter and 18/14 reducer)

 

[Lou]

I was looking through his stuff yesterday, but got frustrated with many of the other sellers lack of descriptions.

So if I get this right BDV, the slide/bowl for your ac has an 18 mm female, but where it connects to the downstem is 14 mm male correct? And the joint on the beaker itself is 14 mm as well? I guess I just dont understand why some pieces would have 14 to 18 mm downstems beside 14 mm slides/acs being easier to find, or for adaptability. To make everything 18mm, I would need a non tapered downstem, slide and whatever else add ons?

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

So if I get this right BDV, the slide/bowl for your ac has an 18 mm female, but where it connects to the downstem is 14 mm male correct? And the joint on the beaker itself is 14 mm as well?

That is correct. The only reason I did it, was to increase input volume and air volume on clears. I wanted the whole setup 18mm, but it can't be done on the mini. They have a larger beaker 15" with a showerhead downstem and perc. I'm thinking of getting that, with the full-size inline and having him do all the joints for 18mm. Though, I would like to talk him down on the beaker size. 15" is a boatload of volume, for a beaker and vapor.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

IMO, the easiest way to avoid any issues is to get a 18-14 reducer, and a 14-18 expander for like $20 combined.
Then, every glass piece will be able to mate with every vape/ash catcher you can throw at it.

From what I've seen, most beakers have a female 18mm joint on them.
The 18mm opening leaves more room for a showerhead/whatever other kind of diffusion the blower wants to put on the end of the downstem.
I very rarely see a 14mm downstem with much diffusion going on. (except for maybe the EHLE diffused downstems)

A lot of downstems are the low profile style.
This means that it'll have the same type of connector as that reducer I linked to above.
It is essentially a 14mm female joint, sitting inside a 18mm male joint, and it looks sleek (imo). They are also a bit harder to break, since they have a bit less glass sticking out of them, but it's not that major a difference...

IMO, the drag is not very noticeably different between a 14 and 18 piece, the type of diffusion on the water end of the downstem can play a bigger role than the joint size, and whatever vape you're using will likely be the greatest source of drag during the hit.
(I will say that obvoiusly a 18mm joint will let more air through, It's just not that noticeable to me)

You can also get a downstem that has a 18mm male joint for the beaker, and a 18mm female joint for your vape, but it will stick out further than a low profile one, actually, it would look rather similar to that expander I linked to earlier.

Basically, a beaker with an 18mm joint can easily be a 18mm or 14mm piece depending on the downstem, but a 14mm joint will pretty much mean that the piece will have a 14mm female joint on the downstem (I have seen 14mm male to 18mm female downstems, but they are certainly rarer than the other 2 kinds)

I have found that I never use my 14-18 expanders (I have 2 reducers, and 2 expanders), but somewhat regularly use my reducers.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

IMO, the drag is not very noticeably different between a 14 and 18 piece, the type of diffusion on the water end of the downstem can play a bigger role than the joint size, and whatever vape you're using will likely be the greatest source of drag during the hit.
(I will say that obvoiusly a 18mm joint will let more air through, It's just not that noticeable to me)

It probably has a lot to do with the perc type also, but I find the 18mm inlines work better, IMO with the large opening. I find that my Mini is almost idiot proof on water levels and it will set itself for the perfect perc/pull every time. I usually have issues with inline eventually having uneven level and causes the perc to misfire. I would think the intake opening size, would have some effect, on those variables.

 

[kingofnull]

You can also get a downstem that has a 18mm male joint for the beaker, and a 18mm female joint for your vape, but it will stick out further than a low profile one, actually, it would look rather similar to that expander I linked to earlier.

I absolutely agree with you that 14mm downstems tend to be lower profile than 18mm. Most 18mm downstems I've seen have a slight bulge in between the male and female ground glass joints. Why do the 18mm need to stick out so much?

edit: I agree though that the 18mm downstem is easier to clear than the 14mm.

 

[Lou]

ah, thanks for the clarification guys. I am definitely looking into getting a slide and possibly an 18-14 reducer from oregon. However, I will most likely pick up an ac first, depending on how I like the piece as is.

It does have a low profile ds, which like you guys stated, is most often why it will taper from 18 to 14 at the male end. I figured it was a good idea, after seeing how far some downstems come out from the base. Its a toss up for me between the small inline from ssfg, and the grav labs standard showerhead http://cybershed.com/gravlabs-standard-ashcatcher-p-1456.html
The inline looks like it would be easier to set down with a jhook, but more finicky when it comes to the right water level, and making sure it fires right. The slide joint on the grav does look a bit strange, and i guess theres no option for an 18 mm slide.

I see a lot of people throw those cheap multi arm acs on nice pieces, and would have to think that would severely degrade the overall performance, like putting crummy tires on a nice car. I'd rather spend a bit more and not have a weak link in the system.

oh and this seems like a pretty good deal for a grav jhook for anyone interested 15$ http://cybershed.com/gravlabs-jhandle-p-1406.html

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Nice deal! Thanks!

 

[Lou]

picked up the piece today. Man This thing rips, and is super smooth! The showerhead downstem fires nicely. 16 in is a great size for combusting, but I forgot how intensive cleaning a larger piece can be.

What's the general opinion here on carbon filters like mcfinns or from oregon glass off ioffer? Also saw a roor one for about 30$.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Honestly, any little adapters like that... I ALWAYS go thru oregonglassblower.

Just be aware, some of the other stuff he's carrying now, is not his stuff, though he typically states it somewhere on the page, like in the Q/A section. Those 4 and 5 arm plain/colored ac/percs are just no-name glass.

All the downstems, adapters, filters, connectors, etc... are his. Everything he's made for me, is thick, heat annealed and clean. I can't tell you how many times, I've dropped a downstem, whip adapter, 18/14 reducer... not a single scratch/crack yet (knock on wood).

 

[kingofnull]

Yeah it's worth going to OGB, but I prefer to wait till I have a few things I want to order. Cuts down on shipping and like BDV said, OGB usually throws in a freebie or two.

I've not tried his carbon filter yet, but I should be getting one from him in the mail next week to replace the LHS one I just broke.

edit: BDV is right. Generally anything coloured is not his IME. Definitely the tree a/c aren't his, unless he blows the actual a/c and buys the percs from China.

 

[BigDaddyVapor]

Oh yeah, if you throw in more than 1 item per order, not only will he throw in freebies, he cuts BIG discounts. I basically got my 18/14 reducer for free, he knocked so much off the price. And he LOVES repeat buyers.

Before you buy, just drop him a note on the QA (make sure you mark it private)... and ask what's the best he can do, for whatever items you want. His first offer, will more than likely be one, you can't refuse.

 

[kingofnull]

picked up the piece today. Man This thing rips, and is super smooth! The showerhead downstem fires nicely. 16 in is a great size for combusting, but I forgot how intensive cleaning a larger piece can be.

What's the general opinion here on carbon filters like mcfinns or from oregon glass off ioffer? Also saw a roor one for about 30$.

Glad you're enjoying your glass. Cleaning is a breeze if you aren't combusting. Pour some alcohol and salt into the glass and swirl/shake it around. Water and dish soap, then rinse till the water comes out clear.

 

[Lou]

Glad you're enjoying your glass. Cleaning is a breeze if you aren't combusting. Pour some alcohol and salt into the glass and swirl/shake it around. Water and dish soap, then rinse till the water comes out clear.

I usually do combust out of it (I know, I know), but do try it with the Da buddha when its clean. Holy smokes batman, it may not milk crazy but its a huge tube for vapor and definitely will sneak up on you.

Like everyone else on here, I'm already looking to pick up another glass piece. Definitely something smaller (easier to clean), and most likely bubble style.

1) Definitely considering this http://silversurfervap.com/glass/water-filter-cooler-moisturizer-93-straight-6-percolator.html 6 arm ash-catcher style, comes with k clip, j hook, and glass adapter. 65$

2) A jhook and the SSFG mini inline ~85$

3) That blue 11 arm 70$ bubbler from gogopipes, or the cheaper 40$ one (if they come back in stock)

4) Black leaf saxo, but at 14 inches it is probably bigger than what I'm looking for. It will be a mostly combusting piece like the grav labs. $115

5) The $120 12" Leviathan/M&M tech bubbler. Removable mouthpiece seems like a good idea for cleaning. Would like a more stable base like the saxo though.

6) At the most the ssfg hybrid stemline at 135. I have a hard time justifying that one, because I would also have to look at an Apix stemline.

sorry if i sound like a broken record, just like to get my thoughts down

 

[budz and bhombs]

Hey guys, sorry if this is in the wrong place but it seemed like the best section. I just picked up a Da buddha about 2 weeks ago, and have liked it so far, but am looking for a water piece that can hooked up to it, as well as be used on its own.

Preface: I have had a few sub 150$ pieces, none with percs or anything fancy so I can't comment on whether I would prefer tree, dome, spiral or showerhead, in the tube or in an ashcatcher. I've read through many threads here and people seem to split between standalone bubblers, and tubes.

So far I have semi-decided on a few qualities.
-Tube (beaker bottom, or the most stable/least prone to break)
-12-18 inches at the max
-Under 150 (I know, low price point, but have seen some pretty good pieces under this price)
-Can have percs, or the addition of a percolated ash catcher would be nice.
-must have ice.

I have found about 5 tubes I am considering.
On the cheaper end,
1). Generic 5mm tube, $50 http://www.gogopipes.com/Glass_Water_Pipes_Glass_On_Glass_Water_Pipes.html
2). Plain C2 beaker http://www.brotherswithglass.com/C2_Custom_Creations_Beaker_Clear_p/bwg-cc3c.htm
3). Beaker from SSFG $85
http://ssfgglass.com/shop/product.php?id_product=72
4). Zob beaker 110 http://www.brotherswithglass.com/Zob_14_in_Blue_Label_Beaker_Water_Pipe_p/bwg-zg14bk.htm
5). Tree perc syn 120 http://www.brotherswithglass.com/SYN_Rasta_Label_Double_Perc_p/bwg-synp18-ras.htm

Possibly an EHLE tube? Black leaf has some nice pieces, but opinions seem mixed around here. Suggestions or recommendations would be much appreciated.

-Lou

I also own DBV and besides pens for concentrates(pens arent my favorite) but i LOVE my DBV, absolute steal of a VERY nice desktop vape at a lower price point! Anyways, i just had a few suggestions w a beaker like u mentioned bc thats what im getting within the week. Heres a few id check out, just my personal likes i guess..

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scie...ks/manifest-7-mm-clear-beaker-neon-green.html (this would be my 1st pick, comes w a 4 pinch slide along w a MGW showerhead ds!)

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scientific-glass/hvy-glass/hvy-glass-16-clear-beaker.html (this would most likey be my 2nd choice, but w this 1, id have to replace the stock ds for on OGB showerhead ds and maybe even a slide, so talking 120$ + shipping, 32$ for the showerhead ds, and 15$-40$ on a slide, depending.)

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scientific-glass/zob-glass/zob-14-inch-og-beaker-white-black.html (this i guess, would be my 3rd choice, but same problem as the HVY above, id want an OGB showerhead ds and a slide, so 115$ + shipping, 32$ for OGB ds, and 15$-40$ for a pinched slide.)

Maybe ull like some of those if ur lookin for a quality beaker for around 150$ like i am. GL

Didnt see u picked a Grav Labs.. Im sorry. i mean if u like it, thats cool, but half of gav labs stuff comes outta china now, not cool! ALMOST was the beaker i was gonna buy from them, a 16 inch beaker w a circled ice catcher... then i thankfully found the thread that tells more about them. damn wish i cou;da got to u faster, ANY AND ALL the brands above mentioned are WAY nicer mid-priced quality pieces.. anyway, hope u enjoy ur grav labs

Oh heck. I wouldn't suggest, the Grav Labs would be a purchase to regret. They've got a lot of pieces I wouldn't mine owning. I hope to add something of theirs, some day.

ummm whaaaaa?! your sentence kinda contradicts itself. "gravs labs would be a purchase to regret" then-"they gotta lot of pieces i wouldnt mind owning.." lol ONLY Grav Labs id EVER buy is thir nice bubblers...

 

[Silver420Surfer]

@budz and bhombs -- You are responding to a post that is over 2.5 years old.

 

[budz and bhombs]

@budz and bhombs -- You are responding to a post that is over 2.5 years old.

lol im new, didnt even notice. it was in the "new posts" was all i saw

 

[Dionysius]

Give Thickassglass.com a try. Just recently bought a 7" bubbler with honeycomb perc and 14mm female joint for my underdog at $75