Science and Souls (for geeks and spiritual explorers)

t-dub

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Why is it OK to call a planet a Dwarf but not a person?
Maybe because they are inanimate objects?

Anyways, its about half the size of Pluto in a 700 year orbit. Dwarf planets are massive enough to be crushed into spheres by their own gravity, but they have not "cleared their neighborhood" of other objects, which differentiates them from "normal" planets. This definition, which was devised by the International Astronomical Union in 2006, led to Pluto's controversial reclassification as a dwarf planet. Other confirmed dwarf planets in the Kuiper Belt region include Pluto, Eris, Haumea and Makemake.
 

farscaper

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consciousness appears as a volumetric spatial void, containing colored objects and surfaces. This reveals that the representation in the brain takes the form of an explicit volumetric spatial model of external reality. The world we see around us therefore is not the real world itself, but merely a miniature virtual-reality replica of that world in an internal representation. In fact the phenomena of dreams and hallucinations clearly demonstrate the capacity of the brain to construct complete virtual worlds even in the absence of sensory input. Perception is therefore somewhat like a guided hallucination, based on sensory stimulation.


Did you know when you go to space you have to get your "space legs"?

Just like a seaman has to get his "sealegs" aboard a seafaring ship astronauts some times suffer similar issues when going to space. About half of all astronauts suffer "space adaptation syndrome" which can include disorientation, nausea and visual illusions.

Like waking up expecting to rise from your left side.... but when you open your eyes the room is spinning around you... or so it appears.
 

t-dub

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SpaceX is at it again launching tonight in about 2 hours and 40 minutes from now or 9:45 PST

Tonight they will be landing the 1st stage back at Cape Canaveral.

Live video coverage here: http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/07/17/spacex-9-mission-status-center/

or SpaceX's you tube hosted webcast here:


Weather is 90% go . . . :tup:

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Edit: Everything went as planned and the first stage made a beautiful night landing at Cape Canaveral :)
 
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t-dub

Vapor Sloth
This is a Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter picture taken on March 28, 2016 of a glacial flow coming down off of mountains in Mars’ northern mid-latitudes. The mountains are to the south and beyond the bottom right. The flow is to the northwest. These flow-like structures were previously called “lobate debris aprons,” but the Shallow Radar (SHARAD) instrument on MRO has shown that they are actually debris-covered flows of ice, or glaciers. There is no evidence for present-day flow of these glaciers, so they appear to be remnants of past climates. This lends credence to the idea that life once existed on Mars, probably in a basic form, and it is a huge development for the people who will eventually go there because this water can be used to grow crops, produce oxygen to breath, rocket fuel, and for drinking.

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t-dub

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ok . . . . back to SpaceX.

Remember all those first stages they recovered? Well they are getting ready to reuse one. Today was the first test firing of a landed Falcon 9 first stage. It was the third one recovered that had a "hard" landing and was therefore unusable. The first one recovered is on its way to Florida to be launched next month. The $$$ that is being saved is completely changing the landscape of what can be done in space.

It is once again important to point out that SpaceX’s engineers here have an enormous advantage over every other rocket engineer who has ever lived. They have in hand a recovered first stage that was actually used to launch a satellite into orbit, giving them the ability to test it and find out precisely how such equipment fares during launch. This will give them the ability, unavailable to others, to make engineering improvements that will make future first stages even more reliable and reusable.

 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
*** SCIENCE ALERT ***

It appears that Jupiter's gravity has forced the cometary debris trail from comet Swift-Tuttle, that makes up the Perseid meteor shower, right into our orbital path. This means there are going to be A LOT more shooting stars than normal. Viewing Thursday night into Friday morning and Friday night into Saturday morning should be the best times to watch.

More here: http://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-pres...uld-see-surge-in-activity-on-11-and-12-august


Also, NASA has made a one year time lapse video of the Earth from a million miles away at L1. They actually caught the shadow of the moon traveling across the Earth's surface during a solar eclipse.

Stunning video . . . :tup:

 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
For the cool readers of this thread . . .

Want to know what you get when mixing a scientist/conspiracy theorist with rap? Well here you go, its David Adair.

David Adair is an internationally recognized expert in space technology spin-off applications for industry and commercial use. At age 11 he built his first of hundreds of rockets which he designed and tested. At 17 he won “The Most Outstanding in the Field of Engineering Sciences” from the US Air Force. At 19 he designed and fabricated a state-of-the-art mechanical system for changing jet turbine engines for the US Navy that set world record turnaround times that still stand today.

I love how he flips everyone the bird at 1:25 . . . :nod:

 
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Concupiscient

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Fascinating images, thoughts, observations, ...

Imaging the mystery within myself may be the mystery communicating itself ...




- EXPLORERS, let's explore! -
 
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The alien buttes of Mars. This is a huge panorama of Mars from Curiosity. I'm putting the link under the spoiler tab because of the file size. Its a beautiful, full color, panorama from images taken by Curiosity’s mast camera on August 25, 2016. Imagine how these sedimentary layers can in 1/3 of Earth's gravity hold on to the lattice type layers that we see. Truly awesome.

 

farscaper

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Spaceflight is a risky business . . .

This is a video from a static test of the Falcon 9 on pad 40 at The Cape today.

This explosion will definitely leave a scar on that pad. The payload was lost as well, obviously. Impressive shock waves . . . what a mess.

It's was supposed to deliver a satellite that would expand parts of Africa with Internet access.

No injuries reported though so at least there's that.
 

dorkus_molorkus

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Spaceflight is a risky business . . .

This is a video from a static test of the Falcon 9 on pad 40 at The Cape today.

This explosion will definitely leave a scar on that pad. The payload was lost as well, obviously. Impressive shock waves . . . what a mess.



same source slowed down 100x (allegedly with no tampering)

check out 1.57- 2.07


I present this with no comment or speculation, other than isnt the internet fucking awesome?

:tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil:

its ok, I brought enough tin foil for all of us.

I for one welcome our new alien rulers.
they cant be any fucking worse than what we have already and where we are headed.
surely not??
 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
Aren't operations (or at least the satellite) insured anyway?
Oh yes, everything is insured but its still a "learning opportunity" and it delays things. SpaceX was scheduled to launch that recovered first stage, a reused Dragon capsule, and the Falcon 9 Heavy pretty soon so all of that will be pushed back. The Israeli satellite . . . meh . . like you said its paid for although Zuckerberg will be set back as well. Maybe a good thing.
 
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An update has come out on the SpaceX Falcon 9 explosion.

Remember when I said the shockwave was impressive?
The blast reportedly shattered windows nearby, knocked sliding doors off peoples' homes farther away, and was heard as far as 30 miles from SLC-40, according to local Florida TV stations.
Remember when I said it would leave a scar on pad 40?
As for the Launch Pad itself, our teams are now investigating the status of SLC-40. The pad clearly incurred damage, but the scope has yet to be fully determined.
Official SpaceX, NASA releases, and article here: http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-nasa-reactions-rocket-explosion-2016-9?r=UK&IR=T

"Overview of the incident:
  • Yesterday, at SpaceX's Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, an [explosion] took place about eight minutes in advance of a scheduled test firing of a Falcon 9 rocket.
  • The [explosion] on the pad resulted in the loss of the vehicle.
  • This was part of a standard pre-launch static fire to demonstrate the health of the vehicle prior to an eventual launch.
  • At the time of the loss, the launch vehicle was vertical and in the process of being fueled for the test. At this time, the data indicates the [explosion] originated around the upper stage liquid oxygen tank. Per standard operating procedure, all personnel were clear of the pad. There were no injuries.

"To identify the root cause of the [explosion], SpaceX began its investigation immediately after the loss, consistent with accident investigation plans prepared for such a contingency. These plans include the preservation of all possible evidence and the assembly of an Accident Investigation Team, with oversight by the Federal Aviation Administration and participation by NASA, the United States Air Force and other industry experts. We are currently in the early process of reviewing approximately 3000 channels of telemetry and video data covering a time period of just 35-55 milliseconds.

"As for the Launch Pad itself, our teams are now investigating the status of SLC-40. The pad clearly incurred damage, but the scope has yet to be fully determined. We will share more data as it becomes available. SpaceX currently operates 3 launch pads – 2 in Florida and 1 in California at Vandenberg Air Force Base. SpaceX's other launch sites were not affected by yesterday's events. Space Launch Complex 4E at Vandenberg Air Force Base is in the final stages of an operational upgrade and Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy Space Center remains on schedule to be operational in November. Both pads are capable of supporting Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches. We are confident the two launch pads can support our return to flight and fulfill our upcoming manifest needs.

"Again, our number one priority is to safely and reliably return to flight for our customers, as well as to take all the necessary steps to ensure the highest possible levels of safety for future crewed missions with the Falcon 9. We will carefully and thoroughly investigate and address this issue."
 

grokit

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  • This was part of a standard pre-launch static fire to demonstrate the health of the vehicle prior to an eventual launch.
  • At the time of the loss, the launch vehicle was vertical and in the process of being fueled for the test.
Just a layman here, here but maybe they shouldn't be setting fires while they are "in the process of being fueled". We have to extinguish our cigarettes while at the self-pump, it's not rocket science.

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Just a layman here, here but maybe they shouldn't be setting fires while they are "in the process of being fueled". We have to extinguish our cigarettes while at the self-pump, it's not rocket science.
The static, meaning the rocket would not be released into flight, test fire of the engines, was scheduled for after the rocket was fueled, not during. When the explosion happened the rocket was being fueled. My guess is the second stage 02 tank failed.
 
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Well here is another launch . . . :ninja:

Live coverage: Tomorrow’s Atlas 5 countdown and launch journal

Live coverage of the United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rocket flight with NASA’s OSIRIS-REx asteroid sample return probe.

The seven-hour countdown begins at mid-day Thursday for the sequence of final preparations, testing and fueling of the United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rocket that will propel NASA's OSIRIS-REx asteroid probe on its round trip odyssey to Bennu and back.

Liftoff is targeted for 7:05 p.m. EDT (2305 GMT) at the opening of a two-hour launch window.
 

t-dub

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My guess is the second stage 02 tank failed.
As it turns out, I was partially correct according to the current analysis . . . :D

“At this stage of the investigation, preliminary review of the data and debris suggests that a large breach in the cryogenic helium system of the second stage liquid oxygen tank took place,” SpaceX said. “All plausible causes are being tracked in an extensive fault tree and carefully investigated.”

Hit the link below for the full article, its worth it. Helium tanks within 02 tanks . . . :hmm:

Falcon 9 rocket explosion traced to upper stage helium system . . .
Remember when I said it would leave a scar on pad 40?

"Meanwhile, ground crews at Cape Canaveral are examining the damage at Complex 40, SpaceX’s primary launch pad. The company said “substantial areas of the pad systems were affected” by the explosion, but several key pieces of ground equipment escaped major damage."

Like I said, left a huge scar, however the main systems of the pad are intact. Pad 40 lives on . . . :rockon:

SpaceX's official analysis is here: http://www.spacex.com/news/2016/09/01/anomaly-updates


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t-dub

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If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.

- Nikola Tesla

The raw footage from the experiment . . . *** Warning! Extremely loud audio ***

 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
Well the Russians and Europeans managed to put a scar on the surface of Mars with their Schiaparelli test lander a few days ago . . . :D

Data appears to show that the parachute deployed early, probably shredding it. Then when the retro-rockets fired the spacecraft was probably closer to the ground than planned and falling too fast, so they failed to stop it from impacting the surface really hard and prematurely, which resulted in the lander crashing into Mars with enough force to leave an elliptical scar approximately 50 x 130 feet!

Now that is an accomplishment!

Images taken by Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter before and after Schiaparelli’s failed attempt to land on Mars have revealed changes that are likely the lander on the surface with the heat shield being the white spot below the impact site.

This means the Russians are batting zero% having never had a successful Mars mission ever!!! :lol:

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Image credit: Robert Zimmerman from Behind The Black dot com.
 
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