Thanks bossman. I know the roffu is new/mostly untested, but I assume it will be decent given the general love for the v3 pro.
They are quite a bit different though I am seeing, I'm not sure either is ideal if you want mouth to lung style, both being pure convection really benefit from deep long inhale hits in my experience...
I will research as I’m sure there’s a ton of opinion on it, but since you like the TM and the fw7, do you have any thoughts btw the 2? Is it worth waiting for a FW7 to be available or just get a TM? And how about TM vs v3 pro?
They are very complimentary, so you know the TM is pure convection on demand with glass stem as your chamber and vapor path, and use you hold down the button and it vibrates when you're ready to start inhaling, you let go and keep inhaling to clear your hit... In the FW7, it is a hybrid with more conduction, but still on demand, you load a ceramic oven chamber (you will want to use a more fine grind and pack it, as compared to pure convection loading, but you also don't want to load it more than 3/4 full really and it works great with less!) Then though the usage style is similar, with FW7 stock setup glass stem as part of vapor path or WPA set up to have more glass in the vapor path more direct, with the stock set up there is more ceramic the vapor path too with a right angle bend before it gets to the glass stem (right angle bends are fantastic for cooling btw) in use, it is similar in that you press and hold the button, it will vibrate when it is ready at temperature, however you begin to slow sip inhale and then increase your speed, it creates the vapor for you a bit but you get more vapor if you inhale deeper, being hybrid heating. What's also nice with the FW7, when you let go, after a few seconds there will be another vibration, tell you that it is cooling down, you still keep hitting it to clear all the vapor though like you would with the TM, it is just nice you get that secondary vibration feedback. It also has a full temperature range, but not with a dial like the TM, you have to set up three preset temperatures, but they are easy to switch anytime if you want, once you learn how to use the one button with the instructions. I keep mine set pretty low though, I generally like to temp step, with the FW7 I milk low then go medium then go high to finish, also depending what glass pieces I am using with it if there is water, with the TM dry I am usually starting as low as possible on the dial and moving it a tiny bit up after each hit, finishing around below level 6, unless I am going for a quick rip through water or something I will start higher like level 5 for just a couple hits to kill it... The v3pro is sort of different, read the thread since it is short, to see how exactly it functions, it has some similar features with the TM like being able to do session and on demand but it's different because you're loading a metal bowl within the vape instead of the glass stem separate, so there is a bit more conduction effect from radiant heating if you are using the session mode for example? It also vibrates, takes a little bit longer to heat up though potentially, has a wide temperature range, and some versatility with WPA and other mouthpieces, it's standard mouthpiece cooling unit is pretty effective though, the vapor quality the flavor and the density is not on the level of the TM or FW, but it definitely gets me where I need to go!
FW7 you can still find if you are active on reddit ent exchange, they get posted their regularly, but they are not cheap, he is going to be releasing the FW8 soon, but it will probably be even more difficult to obtain... It will probably be a more polished version of the FW7, I don't really have issues with mine, but some people know the flaws in the FW7 and have had more trouble if you see in the thread, but that is not unlike the TM where there are people who had trouble, even the X-Max some people had troubles! So yeah that's why it's always good to have two vapes anyway...
Thanks Snacks, lots of good feedback! Do you think by going with a generic electronics looking device that I’m missing out on more quality from artisan products like TM or FW7?
In my opinion yes, TM and FW7 are my overall favorites by far, very polished experience for an artisan product in my experience, but the mass produced products are improving as you see with the v3pro and Roffu, it's not like the old session conduction cheap Chinese vapes there were when I got started, they were new then, but now we are finally seeing real innovation with those... But the vapor quality just cannot compare largely based on the materials and build? And for what it's worth, Tafée Bowle is a pretty great mass produced style industrial design device, despite the flaws, but yeah I don't think it's vapor quality compares to TM or FW7 either personally (would not be my suggestion for flavor chasing at all, but it has very nice dry hits, with the built-in right ankles, it is like a j-hook vape, but I wish there was WPA options for more versatility)
Have you looked into the Arizer portables? They are more of the session conduction style, but using glass stems for a bit of hybrid convection, and the new Air Max seems to be the best of the bunch... I would sooner get that than the Mighty for sure, and you may actually prefer it to the xmax or roffu honestly? It is still a great place to start your vapor journey! But it does smell a bit more unused with the constant cooking creating the vapor for you, but you can control that, I think there is more control with Air than Mighty at least...