they lost me at indegogo.... fuck that, go to a bank for a loan. I'm done letting crowd funding bullshit sit on my money for a year or longer without delivering a product.
You might not know this but as we mentioned earlier we are based in Greece and the current economical crisis means that there are more chances winning the lottery than getting a loan from a bank.
It is a fact when a client pays, they have the right to expect their goods on time. I can assure you we don't want to sit on your money and we want to deliver a product without delays. Last thing we want is an angry customer. A company that respects itself should want a happy customer willing to buy again. We know that this is not always possible to meet deadlines as there are always so many things that can go wrong that eventually something goes wrong. None can predict the future but what we can guarantee, is that we will have the same dedication for production as the one we had for making our design as perfect as possible (even with a last moment addition).
Thought you said you had everything you need to ship the grinders in Aug? Now estimated Oct. Something tells me you need the crowd funding (which you said you didn't need) to produce the grinders.
We never said we don't need crowd funding. Thanks to bank delays we are 1 month delayed. That means our campaign will end at 4th of August + 15 days for IGG processing time of funds get us to 20th of August. Another fact is that from 15-30 of August everything is closed in Greece due to summer vacations, all suppliers will start working from September. We hoped we could get funds before 15th so we can start manufacturing but this is not going to happen now.
My Kannastor grinder does the exact same grind without ever clogging and I don't have to "shake" my herb through the grinder and collects the kief perfectly. I think the video put me off to this. If it can't outperform what I already have, then I don't need it. Wish y'all the best of luck.
We bet Kannastor is a great grinder, and if you already own a grinder that satisfies you, you might no need a new one. But we also know that everyone that gets a QB-GON in their hands, appreciates the feel and wants to start another session or roll another joint just to use it. We also seen friends chasing each other around like kids about who is going to grind.
If you like products with elegant design and a new approach then QB-GON is for you. We believe that beyond its functionality, it is a display piece that also pleases the eyes and would sit nicely on a desk for instance. It is not made to be carried around in a backpack with sharp objects and requires to be treated the same way we have made it, with love and care.
We are planning on making an on-the-go version too and once funded we'll have more designs coming up, from vapes to bongs and grinders. This is only the beginning and we hope you guys will be with us along the way!
My answer would be mixed.
A working prototype in my mind would be a home made grinder.
If a working prototype is however not in production, and the production of these is not in progress, then while the prototype would not be just a concept.. the actual functioning business and support is just a concept.
That is a positive step for sure.
Trust me
@QB-GON .... I am not trying to rain on your parade, and I wish you only success. I will buy a grinder when it is available for sale..
If the grinder is great, I will proudly show it to every patient I come into contact with.
Concerning the prototype and production line, the wooden parts are the most complex. We can produce QB-GON in a room in my apartment but producing 1 piece there takes almost the same time as making 100 in a dedicated workshop, because of different tool set ups that can take up to 30 mins between each production phase. In this apartment we have developed our production line and know-how, we made the final prototype and some spare parts from this production line so we can estimate processing times. However running a real production line in an apartment is not possible as machines produce a lot of noise and sawdust. Typical while we develop our manufacturing methods and made tries we had to stop from 14:00-17:00 as there's a siesta law. Metallic parts from the manufacturer are very simple, and don't require any special manufacturing. Custom tooling is also ready for parts that require it.
The current blades are made from stainless steel 305 alloy that is used for architectural purposes and it is non magnetic. Commercial version will be made from stainless steel 430 alloy that is used for kitchenware and is magnetic, we need magnetic alloy so axis can magnetized on bottom blade. The reason we didn't use this alloy on our prototype is because by default manufacturers use 305 and we would have had to provide the material that is too expensive for a prototype.
We are crowdfunding so we can buy wholesale magnets / get the materials we need tell our suppliers to push the button and start manufacturing a batch that can lead us to some profit so we can continue.
There is a mold we need to make for the pollen catcher, so it can have a perfect fit as the ones on photograph are made with manufacturers stock mold. But this is not something that should cause delays as this is a very simple mold, nothing too difficult to manufacture and from my 4 years experience with the workshops is a 10 mins program in a lathe.
Before posting we contact the forum admins to ask if we can post as manufacturers.
They recommend to start a thread on vapor related accessories.
As we have done so far, there is no request we don't want to consider as we want to do our best to satisfy our potential customers.
We will post a video as soon as possible. For now I will share with you some photos of the spare parts made from our production line.
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