Nothing but peace 
love 
& positivity 
flowing in my thoughts for you guys @PattyVapes & @Vitolo.
Much respect to you both
love & positivity flowing in my thoughts for you guys @PattyVapes & @Vitolo.Much respect to you both
Police Raid on Vitolo's Home
- Thread starter Vitolo
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1_gr8_underdog
Trapped in the Astral Planes Back from the dead
You got it Vito. Sending good thoughts and hopeful energy your way! Good luck today, stay strong no matter what we are here to back you Patty up.
shredder
Well-Known Member
Nothing but peace
Much respect to you both
Cool V&V, and I'll put pins in my po po voodoo doll. That way we have everything covered.
Vitolo
Vaporist
Meeting with attorney was today.
Not good.
He has no information for us, because the indictment is sealed.
Patty and I are both being charged individually.
I am not sure why, since it was all me using and working with vapes and meds, but that is the fact.
Now I fear we have a new problem.
The attorney has informed us that he can not represent both of us in this.
He has a list of attorneys he works with, but this new development is frightening.
He said we can get a public attorney, and there would be a chance that it is a Defender that would cooperate and work with him.
The chances of it being a non cooperative attorney is greater, however, and so we must make decisions.
He knows of a young attorney that he trusts to stay on "the same page" and work together...
and the young attorney he explains will help at a better rate than most attorneys.
The Indictment hearing is the day after tomorrow.
Thursday.
We are both nervous and scared, due to all of the secrecy and the unknown.
We are still standing strong and calm, as best we can.
Not good.
He has no information for us, because the indictment is sealed.
Patty and I are both being charged individually.
I am not sure why, since it was all me using and working with vapes and meds, but that is the fact.
Now I fear we have a new problem.
The attorney has informed us that he can not represent both of us in this.
He has a list of attorneys he works with, but this new development is frightening.
He said we can get a public attorney, and there would be a chance that it is a Defender that would cooperate and work with him.
The chances of it being a non cooperative attorney is greater, however, and so we must make decisions.
He knows of a young attorney that he trusts to stay on "the same page" and work together...
and the young attorney he explains will help at a better rate than most attorneys.
The Indictment hearing is the day after tomorrow.
Thursday.
We are both nervous and scared, due to all of the secrecy and the unknown.
We are still standing strong and calm, as best we can.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Show up and hold your head up high, you did nothing wrong. I'm sorry that you didn't get better news. I was hoping that it would blow over. I know nothing about the law so I hope you find out on Thursday what the part that's sealed is all about. It doesn't seem fair that you wouldn't be notified of all the info.
1_gr8_underdog
Trapped in the Astral Planes Back from the dead
Vito and Patty. Keep on loving on each other. I can asssume that you trust your initial counsel as he is stil in confidence. I know the cost can be great for independant representation. But I think if it were me and my wife, I would trust him and have the young advocate proceed. All my dealings with the (juvinile) judicial system I had a pubic offender. While some excel I know, I was given the reminents of what ever the lowest common denominator was. Two heads working is always a better bet I think. Even when you have to pay for both. Get us a estimated $ for his fees my friend. Between great representation a little help from your FC friends family and the good one above. We will push you both through the finish line.
I can asssume that you trust your initial counsel as he is stil in confidence. I know the cost can be great for independant representation. But I think if it were me and my wife, I would trust him and have the young advocate proceed. All my dealings with the (juvinile) judicial system I had a pubic offender. While some excel I know, I was given the reminents of what ever the lowest common denominator was. Two heads working is always a better bet I think. Even when you have to pay for both. Get us a estimated $ for his fees my friend. Between great representation a little help from your FC
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woolspinner
Well-Known Member
If those Congressmen have any success with the DOJ, will that have a positive impact on your case?
http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/31/congressmen-ask-doj-inspector-general-to
I do not know Vitolo, but I know and appreciate the volunteer work he does. I am outraged at this violation. I wish you the best.
http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/31/congressmen-ask-doj-inspector-general-to
I do not know Vitolo, but I know and appreciate the volunteer work he does. I am outraged at this violation. I wish you the best.
Vitolo
Vaporist
Indictment Hearing was yesterday.
They held the arraignment.
We are placed under arrest.
The judge individually read us each our rights, and entered a plea of not Guilty.
The charges are:
Possession of Marijuana
and
Possession of Marijuana Paraphernalia.
Next will be a case management hearing.
Patty and I will meet with both of our attorneys at same time .. all 4 of us to talk before the Case Management Hearing.
Love still prevails here.
Strong and Calm (thanks Rick and Pat)
The Attorney that we will be trying to retain for Patty is the young one we spoke of.
We spoke a couple of times, and he is quoting a fair enough figure.
We meet with him on Tuesday, to actually "retain" him.
I told Patty that we ARE in the light, and that we will be fine.
And folks.... we are in the light.
Thanks for reading.
They held the arraignment.
We are placed under arrest.
The judge individually read us each our rights, and entered a plea of not Guilty.
The charges are:
Possession of Marijuana
and
Possession of Marijuana Paraphernalia.
Next will be a case management hearing.
A Case Management Hearing is a hearing—a pretrial hearing that is set after an arraignment. Now, the purpose of the Case Management Hearing is two things. The Judge wants to know, at a Case Management Hearing if there’s any problems with discovery. The Judge will also want to know if there’s any plea offer that has been made in the case. Most cases—most criminal cases do get resolved with plea offers. So, the Judge wants to know if one has been made.
Love still prevails here.
Strong and Calm (thanks Rick and Pat)
The Attorney that we will be trying to retain for Patty is the young one we spoke of.
We spoke a couple of times, and he is quoting a fair enough figure.
We meet with him on Tuesday, to actually "retain" him.
I told Patty that we ARE in the light, and that we will be fine.
And folks.... we are in the light.
Thanks for reading.
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KidFated.
Unknown Member
Yes it does Uncle Vito. Your FC Family will always stand strong behind you. We have your back, just like you had everyone else's. You're an inspirational man and I mean than from my heart. Good vibes and love from Minnesota. You two please stay strong. Let us know if you need ANYTHING.
@Vitolo & @PattyVapes,
I am extremely saddened by this news, and infuriated that the authorities can get away with doing this to you. I just don't understand how the world can be so cruel to such good people. I'm keeping you both in my thoughts. Stay strong, and hopefully things will take a turn for the better soon.
I am extremely saddened by this news, and infuriated that the authorities can get away with doing this to you. I just don't understand how the world can be so cruel to such good people. I'm keeping you both in my thoughts. Stay strong, and hopefully things will take a turn for the better soon.
Vitolo
Vaporist
the (2) part of the "Title" means that I was making plans to sell my Marijuana.
Little do they know I am in constant search of MORE meds, and would never "get rid" of any of it.
Does this mean you/we can goto the social media/local news/blogs/whatever now because that "threat" is past? Say the word!
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
That would probably throw a dismissal, plea bargain, or diversion out the window IMO. @Vitolo mentioned how he was advised against this. I like the idea, but let's not make anything worse than needed until asked for help. His lawyers will know best. For now I'm just praying for a safe, quick resolution.
Sadly, I also believe that cases like this aren't unique. Really someone should change the state laws-- 2.5 ounce limit for medical patients is way too low. The media can only do so much.
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Vitolo
Vaporist
No.
It means the threat looms worse than ever, and I am advised more strongly than before to stay out of media, and to stay to myself until the case has been over and resolved 100% (this includes any probationary period also).
He said when papers are signed and done.....
and whatever sanction (if any@!) placed against us has been fulfilled, and non- existant... we can reveal our ordeal.
His prediction is that any media nudging is "poking the bear" and we would worsen our situation without doubt, and in an irreversible manner.
KidFated.
Unknown Member
Go hit that sssv!
Enchantre
Oil Painter
You are very correct, Vitolo IS a great person, along with his lovely wife Patty.
Check this thread out for background info
This is shocking news! How they can do this to peoples lives and feel justified I don't know. I wish you two all the best in these dark times! What about setting up a pay pal account so people can chip in for the legal fees, even if it is a few dollars here and there this should be a fight we are all in!
As for the social media/media talk, good advice from your legal team. Not much you can do while they are playing their games.
As for the social media/media talk, good advice from your legal team. Not much you can do while they are playing their games.
Sorry, wasn't sure if that was a link to donate in general like before all of this. If legal specific money can be sent there I'll get onto it for sure! Cheers.
Edit to add, I do not know what legal jurisdiction he is in and if I did I'd have no idea what the law may be:/ given donated items were initially ceased and an item is just a thing with monetary value, unless there were specifically ceased as parra I'd tread on the side of caution.
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Vitolo
Vaporist
Tommy10, thanks for caring... we love you for it.
The paypal address posted "for legal help" is safe, and clear.
Nothing further can be seized.
I reiterate what we have said before.
Help is great, and appreciated.
Neither of our consciences could handle anyone helping to the detriment of their own families needs or their own well being.
The paypal address posted "for legal help" is safe, and clear.
Nothing further can be seized.
I reiterate what we have said before.
Help is great, and appreciated.
Neither of our consciences could handle anyone helping to the detriment of their own families needs or their own well being.