Honi soit qui mal y pense
When you or somebody else would build an ideal e-nail for you which components and functions should it have?
I think this could be used to tune coils to specific nail and carb cap combinations and reduce any temp drop when carbing.The osPID can store and run profiles. Profiles are useful when you have more than 1 setpoint and for each setpoint you have different ramp and waiting time.
Nice idea, would be perfect. But how to adjust?I think you could do alot more with this setup, the osPID is used by some to control reflow ovens and has a profiles feature.
I think this could be used to tune coils to specific nail and carb cap combinations and reduce any temp drop when carbing.
Downside? No-go IMHO!I don't need to build it myself. The perfect controller already exists. It is Errlectric.
The only down side that I can even fathom is that you have to use their proprietary nails.
I don't need to build it myself. The perfect controller already exists. It is Errlectric. Theirs does not use a PID. They even have a controller that can run 4 coils at once. With no more drain on your mains than a single controller. The only down side that I can even fathom is that you have to use their proprietary nails.
They are almost definitely using a proportional–integral–derivative algorithm. Their "Soft Heat" technology sounds like using variable PID settings so that you pulse the coils up to desired temp instead of turning them on and letting them run constantly up to temp and over shooting. Will I buy an Errlectric? I really like building my own gadgets, but I've considered buying one just to experiment with. I really wish they'd follow Hex-Nail and go to a more attractive screen option. Anything but that 45 cent green LCD would make me happier.Once again, we all are completely entitled to our views and what makes certain products valuable and desirable to us. However, and with all due respect, that controller at basically $600 ain't 'perfect' to me. Its overpriced.
Now, they may not use a proportional–integral–derivative algorithm in their device, but they are using some sort of control algorithm to reduce over/under shoot and maintain temp stability. Is it better than PID, maybe....but is any better really of value?
I understand that the Errlectric's work very well, but how well do you need a controller to work? I'm getting -/+1 degree variance on my Auber RDK-300 and thanks to @mutten840's very generous help, I now have my G9 working within pretty much that same range.....and I can get 4 or 5 of these for what one Errlectic costs.
Just saying...works real good....well yes from everything I have read. Made in USA, yep. Too expensive compared to competition, yep. Cost/benefit ratio justify the cost...nope, not for me.
I have looked this site over. Now, again the same caveat....we are all different, have different values, and perceive value in products differently and according to our desires, priorities, and resources.i was thinking something similar to that, thanks for showing me this.
yeah, this is about $25 in parts (which is what i pay) ... but a product is about a lot more than parts cost, don't you think?So, its another K type, thermocouple-feedback, temp controller
Hi @Hippie Dickie - I do understand a price premium for either aesthetics or function/performance that's ground breaking.yeah, this is about $25 in parts (which is what i pay) ... but a product is about a lot more than parts cost, don't you think?
a perfectly adequate PIC processor chip is @ $1, MOSFET (60 Amp) is @ $2.17, thermocouple @ $6 (or $0.15 if i make my own), MAX6675 @ $14 ($3.50 for 1000 quantity) ... 35 pages of assembly code (implements integer math PID algorithm) @ $priceless ... custom printed circuit board (3 iterations to get it to work, 2 more to get it right) @ time AND money.
making something for retail sale takes more than a box of parts, eh? that is, something you actually want to buy - i'm with you on selecting the feature set that reflects your needs / desires ... definitely different for every user.
personally, i like a $500 price point, or even $1,000 if the item has some artistic flair or elegant design - i appreciate (and will pay to own) good engineering.
Would be cool if the lights were UV! Then put your Uv reactive rig on there .I've been eyeing this thing for awhile:
Doesn't use a PID.
I contacted the designer, he said it uses a Ardino micro something or other.
I don't know if this temperature control system is better than a traditional PID, but he was quite taken by it (I can't find the email @ the moment).
I like the form, simple.
I like the material, I've been thinking about wood enclosures for awhile.
I also like the user controllable lights (reeeeeallly big palette to choose from).
If you look through the IG page there's some videos taken with the lights on the cube facing up, with the rig on top of the lights, illuminated from below in funky laser light for psychedelic dabs!
But it is only controllable through one's electronic device.
And it's not cheap.
Waaaaay cheaper than D-Nail custom wood enclosures though.
Edit: Personally, I'm only interested in the controller, my nail tech is bleeding edge.
I remember that picture, I wonder what happened to it too.Rotary encoder knob to quickly and easily select temperature instead of pushing and holding up/down buttons. Small footprint.
There are a few other features I'd personally want that I keep private since I think they'd be easy to implement in an Arduino based e-nail and I have a really interesting concept to try an emulate.
I wonder whatever happened to it.