stickstones
Vapor concierge
t-dub...what's your technique for the dishwasher? I just picked up some at a local brew shop (1 lb for $9US) and I want to do that tonight.
Thanks!
Thanks!
PBW & the Chemistry of Clean
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Bouldorado
Well-Known Member
Count me in as a PBW believer.
Something for the chemists: A product with similar ingredients (sodium metasilicate) warns: Do Not Use On Glass. Seemingly because it can leave a hazy film. Wikipedia suggests that the stuff can actually turn into glass under the right conditions.
I find it funny that the product you linked to is "phosphate free", yet it's called TSP (tri-sodium phosphate)... silly marketing
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
If you use a lot of soap tone it down a bit (my brother was in the appliance biz most of his life and he always told me to use half the soap they tell you) and put a tablespoon in the other side of the soap dispenser, if your washer has it, otherwise just mix, worst case just throw it in the bottom. There are directions on the container I believe for cleaning dishwashers, but that is basically what I do. Bon chance mon ami and please report back with your results
What does this mean? So if PBW is similar does it leave a film and is not supposed to be used on glass? I know one thing i'm experimenting with now are cleaning ELBs with PBW. It works GREAT, and I rinse well with hot water, but i'm wondering if the vapour coming off a freshly cleaned dry elb (empty) is this "film". I've never noticed this before when using ISO, so i'll try that next time and see if I can get vapour from a dry clean elb.
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
I successfully cleaned my ultra-clogged ELBs with PBW today and can confirm I get no vapor off a cleaned, dry elb.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
No glove no love babyInstead of using corks & tubing, I was able to clean the hydratube with just a 18mm GonG stopper and some burned hands (buying gloves for next time)
although I kinda MJ it and just use the left one, for thermal & chemical protection, that way the dexterity is preserved in my right hand for removing rubber plugs 
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
Was thinking of a hardware store like home depot, but would there be any other type of establishment that would be better for cheap, hot water proof gloves?No glove no love baby
Also, is there a specific material to look out for? (That doesn't have to be boiling proof, just steaming hot water)
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
I went to my local Grainger Industrial Safety Supply store. I believe the MSDS specifies a PVC glove? Anyways, I showed them the MSDS, said I was working with hot water and glass and what did the have in stock with good grip. Got 2 pairs for $10
http://www.midwestsupplies.com/media/downloads/312/PBW MSDS Sheet.pdf
http://www.midwestsupplies.com/media/downloads/312/PBW MSDS Sheet.pdf
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
Never heard of Granger (Grainger?) but apparently there's one only 15 mins from meI went to my local Granger Industrial Safety Supply store. I believe the MSDS specifies a PVC glove? Anyways, I showed them the MSDS, said I was working with hot water and glass and what did the have in stock with good grip. Got 2 pairs for $10
http://www.midwestsupplies.com/media/downloads/312/PBW MSDS Sheet.pdf
Off I go~
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Never heard of Granger (Grainger?) but apparently there's one only 15 mins from me
Off I go~
ok . . . so I can type faster 'tahn' I can spell . .
momofthegoons
vapor accessory addict
t-dub, you're such a science geek. And I love it.Roger that was awesome
HighlyEducatedScholar
Student of Vapor
where are you guys getting these rubber stoppers for your pieces? Home Depot? also, is there a specific size stopper i should get for 14mm and 18mm joints?
i want to get some PBW to wash my glass soon. the hard water build up is slowly starting to eat away at me
the rubber stoppers seem like they're a great tool for doing long PBW soaks.
i want to get some PBW to wash my glass soon. the hard water build up is slowly starting to eat away at me
the rubber stoppers seem like they're a great tool for doing long PBW soaks.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Rubber stoppers both drilled & plain, are readily available in various sizes at your home brew store. #2 plug fits an 18.mm joint . . . for whoever still uses 14? Not sure . . .where are you guys getting these rubber stoppers for your pieces? Home Depot? also, is there a specific size stopper i should get for 14mm and 18mm joints?. i want to get some PBW to wash my glass soon. the hard water build up is slowly starting to eat away at me
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HighlyEducatedScholar
Student of Vapor
thanks guys. the info that you guys have been sharing has been very insightful, especially from t-dub. i just bought some stoppers and a small amount of PBW online. should get them sometime next week so hopefully this will be the end of the particulates and hard water stains in my pieces.
This thread is awesome, I'm out of iso and gotta pick up a little canister of PBW from my local home brew shop. I used to brew a lot but never used PBW, I was more a scrub and Star San kinda guy.
BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
Now I gotta read this whole damn thread!?
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
Whaaaat? Is that 4lbs for 22.50?!
Now I gotta read this whole damn thread!?
BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
Yeah. Local brewing store. I called, he had single use and 1 pnd for $8.50. I didn't ask more than that and headed over. I saw this bigger one for $22.50, quick math... substantial savings. So I bought it.
Real nice guy to. Knew more about beer, than anyone I knew. Fascinating stuff to, into the histories and families of different brew masters and such. Correction coming on the facebook page.
EDIT: Here's his correct facebook page. Whole Hog Brewing
Real nice guy to. Knew more about beer, than anyone I knew. Fascinating stuff to, into the histories and families of different brew masters and such. Correction coming on the facebook page.
EDIT: Here's his correct facebook page. Whole Hog Brewing