PBW & the Chemistry of Clean

[Frederick McGuire]

@Jman5280 Use PBW with confidence. The word chemical is appropriate. BUT by definition WATER is a chemical. A Chemical is defined as a substance with a constant composition and cannot be separated into its components by physical separation methods.

Back the truck up, my friend dihydrogen monoxide is a *gasp* CHEMICAL

 

[Enchantre]

Back the truck up, my friend dihydrogen monoxide is a *gasp* CHEMICAL

And, it is a dangerous one, too! MANY people DIE from dihydrogen monoxide every year!

 

[Tweak]

And, it is a dangerous one, too! MANY people DIE from dihydrogen monoxide every year!

Sad thing is, it's possible to OD on it.

I asked the guy sitting next to me if he had any Sodium Hypobromite…

He said NaBrO

 

[Stu]

 

[vinnyzan]

How have I never heard of this stuff before ? Worked great thanks for sharing.


what do you guys use to plug up the downstem so you can fill up a peice ?

Any chance an accesory maker member could mold some threaded rubber stoppers for diffrent sized joints ? Or do we have an answer for this already ?

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

How have I never heard of this stuff before ? Worked great thanks for sharing.


what do you guys use to plug up the downstem so you can fill up a peice ?

Any chance an accesory maker member could mold some threaded rubber stoppers for diffrent sized joints ? Or do we have an answer for this already ?

Check out this thread http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/custom-3d-printed-vape-accessories-delta-3d-studios.13220/page-9 and contact @Ratchett

 

[t-dub]

Cleaning stoppers are plentiful. You can go with @Ratchett or you can go to your local home brew store and get some stoppers, I believe #2 is the correct size for 18mm, scientific supply companies have them, or you can just buy glass ones from head shops like Aqua Lab:

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/glass-accessories-1/cleaning-stoppers.html

http://www.hometrainingtools.com/advancedsearch/result/?q=rubber stoppers

 

[OF]

And, it is a dangerous one, too! MANY people DIE from dihydrogen monoxide every year!

Good point. Add the number of guys that get drunk, fall in the pool, and die of dihydrogen monoxide poisoning to the ones that get lost in the desert and die of DHMO deprivation and it's dangerous stuff indeed. And we let our children play with it unattended straight out to the hose on hot days?

Hopefully the EPA will step in and save us all?

OF

 

[lookmomnohands]

would you guys say its safe to use PBW on worked glass? I'm not talking labels. I'm talking heavily worked/heady pieces, with a bare minimum amount of clear glass. Most of my collection is heady...not a risk I'm willing to take without hearing from others first!

 

[DieHard]

would you guys say its safe to use PBW on worked glass? I'm not talking labels. I'm talking heavily worked/heady pieces, with a bare minimum amount of clear glass. Most of my collection is heady...not a risk I'm willing to take without hearing from others first!

That's a great question! I have a worked combustion bowl that I would be willing to guinea pig this one. I think it should be fine for the actual glass. Now fuming, that's a different matter altogether! Of course I'm no expert on glass.

 

[lookmomnohands]

That's a great question! I have a worked combustion bowl that I would be willing to guinea pig this one. I think it should be fine for the actual glass. Now fuming, that's a different matter altogether! Of course I'm no expert on glass.

I actually cleaned a supper wig-wagged out dish last night. Everything went well. I agree that it should be alright for worked glass, but I'm still hesitant to try it on a piece that has some value.

 

[DieHard]

I don't blame you one bit!
What will happen to fuming is the big question.

 

[lookmomnohands]

I don't blame you one bit!
What will happen to fuming is the big question.

Agreed. Something about fumed gold or silver and chemical reactions in PBW makes me way way more hesitant (health). At the same time, there are varying amounts of silver in various glass colors depending on which. still, its a mixture of different things. not solely silver or gold fumes... this is off some pretty novice glass knowledge, so please correct me if i am wrong.

 

[DieHard]

We need some glowers to chime in here.
@VaPeD&CoNfUsEd
@Soflo

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

It's been discussed in this very thread, check page 28, PBW has been known to strip fumed pieces.

 

[lookmomnohands]

Thank you for the link. I think that squares away the fume dilemma.

Now, what about non-fumed, but completely worked pieces?

Would just like some testimonials before I go all out.

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

Thank you for the link. I think that squares away the fume dilemma.

Now, what about non-fumed, but completely worked pieces?

Would just like some testimonials before I go all out.

FWIW I have used it on my China worked pieces with no problems. The PBW reacts with the fuming bc of the metallic aspect being blended in, I would imagine if the fuming was covered in glass completly it wouldn't strip. My guess is as long as its worked glass with no fuming aspect your fine.

 

[DieHard]

It's been discussed in this very thread, check page 28, PBW has been known to strip fumed pieces.

I thought so.

 

[cybrguy]

Good point. Add the number of guys that get drunk, fall in the pool, and die of dihydrogen monoxide poisoning to the ones that get lost in the desert and die of DHMO deprivation and it's dangerous stuff indeed. And we let our children play with it unattended straight out to the hose on hot days?

Hopefully the EPA will step in and save us all?

OF

Fat chance. The EPA are all a bunch of communists determined to poison us all and interfere with business interests. You don't really think they want to help us, do you? What are you, a liberal?

 

[Mrmrmrmr]

Finally got some more PBW and boy was my glass dirty! By vaping standards anyway hehe.
I was wondering for dishwasher use do you sprinkle it on the dishes or does it go straight in the compartment with the detergent ?appreciate it all.
Kudos to @t-dub for starting this great thread
If not for it I would probably still be relying solely on ISO and salt.

 

[Enchantre]

I stick it in the detergent cup(s)... I usually just do the open "pre-wash" cup, and I add about a Tablespoon. If stuff is really icky, hubby will put half in each cup, with the regular dishwasher soap.

 

[Jman5280]

I was skeptical of PBW and hesitant to use it because of my concerns, and lack of knowledge on the product...sorry for the doubts, this stuff is incredible!

I did a few PBW soaks, followed by one ISO soak to get the super tiny pieces that the PBW didn't get, rinsed well, and my glass is as clear as can be.

This stuff is excellent.

 

[ChiefKeefe]

Do I mix the PBW with water? My hydratube is so white from stains, want to try PBW but my tap water is NASTY.

 

[MinnBobber]

Do I mix the PBW with water? My hydratube is so white from stains, want to try PBW but my tap water is NASTY.

Yes, mix it with water.
I'd wait til you have distilled water. I warm water in microwave to very hot and then stir in minimal PBW as it doesn't take much. Stir until dissolved and then pour into hydratube and let it soak for 15 minutes.
Pour out and rinse with distilled water several times.

Note that white stain may be from nasty water so that is not PBW's greatest strength.

You should use distilled water in your HT as it is cheap and does not leave water stains

 

[chimpybits]

Do I mix the PBW with water? My hydratube is so white from stains, want to try PBW but my tap water is NASTY.

Yes. Give a final rinse with distilled water to avoid mineral stains.
EDIT. @MinnBobber beat me to it and added all the necessary info.