PBW & the Chemistry of Clean

[macbill]

I've taken water spots off car glass and shower stalls with 0000 steel wool. Try some in an inconspicuous spot.

 

[Elluzion]

I have a mini DG frit piece with really hard water stains all along the few inches of the mouthpiece. What kind of PBW soak would I have to do? or would there be any other alternatives for getting rod of these? I already tried some pbw + tea kettle hot water and shook it for a few mins but it didn't get it out.

 

[aj0125]

I'm still trying to find a solution, If you find one let me know.

 

[oli]

Well you've twisting my arm, better get myself some PBW and try it out for myself, any leads for Europe guys?

I've seen many links for ebay and amazon but all from the US?

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

Check with your local brewery supply company.

 

[ataxian]

I'm still trying to find a solution, If you find one let me know.

I cleaned all my glass with 99% ISO (SAFEWAY or VON'S) and some salt.

When I rinse I use RO water with a lime or lemon squeezed in the rinse water.
Towel dry after 1 hour of air dry.
Vapor with a clean path is my favorite!

Then again I'm a cheap ass!

 

[oli]

Check with your local brewery supply company.

There's a huge Heineken manufacturer down the road, might ask them, will have to find the translation in Castellano first?? Any clue? Spanishspeaking FCbodies?

 

[Herr_Dampf]

There's a huge Heineken manufacturer down the road, might ask them, will have to find the translation in Castellano first?? Any clue? Spanishspeaking FCbodies?

Maybe relevant to EU vapers: http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/5starspbw1lb.html

 

[oli]

Cheers for that,

makes it 21.00 Euros total with transport,

Any better option out there???

 

[ataxian]

Cheers for that,

makes it 21.00 Euros total with transport,

Any better option out there???

ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141171623373

Tuesday is clean glass day!

 

[aj0125]

I cleaned all my glass with 99% ISO (SAFEWAY or VON'S) and some salt.

When I rinse I use RO water with a lime or lemon squeezed in the rinse water.
Towel dry after 1 hour of air dry.
Vapor with a clean path is my favorite!

Then again I'm a cheap ass!

I was referring to getting the white stuff off of my piece after PBW wash. I wish I would have just stuck with the ISO method (basically your method) The PBW has left my expensive glass functional but hideous and after trying everything I can think of to get the white streaks off I am giving up. Live and learn, an expensive lesson, but lesson learned none the less.

 

[LazyIdol]

Sorry to hear about your experience. You probably just want to try to wash your hands of this ordeal and move on but did you try rewashing in PBW? I thought i read somewhere on here that someone had similar issues from over concentrating the PBW and leaving it soak for too long but were able to remove the stains by doing another soak with hotter water for a shorter amount of time. I have some slight staining in the neck of my piece but I think its from the hardish water around here. I havnt tried to get them out really

 

[Enchantre]

I had some white streaking in my oil rig glass.. but now, after maybe 30 trips through the sink being washed with PBW & hot/nearly boiling water/distilled water rinses, I have no white streaks.

YMMV, but maybe over time?

 

[SD_haze]

I was referring to getting the white stuff off of my piece after PBW wash. I wish I would have just stuck with the ISO method (basically your method) The PBW has left my expensive glass functional but hideous and after trying everything I can think of to get the white streaks off I am giving up. Live and learn, an expensive lesson, but lesson learned none the less.

I had some white streaking in my oil rig glass.. but now, after maybe 30 trips through the sink being washed with PBW & hot/nearly boiling water/distilled water rinses, I have no white streaks.

YMMV, but maybe over time?

I also had white streaks the first & 2nd time I used PBW.

Then I started using hotter water, shorter dwell times, and quicker rinses.
EDIT: thanks @t-dub I forgot, I also use about 50% less as compared to when I got some streaks.
Haven't seen a white streak in many, many months.

I used to hate cleaning glass because of ISO fumes, but with PBW it has become a more pleasant, relaxing experience.

 

[t-dub]

Using less chemical seems to be key, the stuff is strong. I never use more than about 1/2 teaspoon at a time, usually less.

 

[aj0125]

Yeah, I rewashed it a million times in various concentrations for various times. I will continue to do so. The water I have used has been a hair under boiling each time. I am going to just keep using it and keep cleaning it, hoping for the best someday. I just wish this hadn't happened on such an expensive piece (for me).

Using less chemical seems to be key, the stuff is strong. I never use more than about 1/2 teaspoon at a time, usually less.

T, When you are using a 1/2 teaspoon how much water is that for reference?

 

[t-dub]

That would be for my Devastator which is the highest volume piece I own, I use less for HydraTubes. The great thing about less chemical is I can always reapply if need be.

 

[ataxian]

That would be for my Devastator which is the highest volume piece I own, I use less for HydraTubes. The great thing about less chemical is I can always reapply if need be.

I will try your method!

 

[Enchantre]

I gotta use less, too. I love this stuff.

 

[t-dub]

I actually use more in the dishwasher now than in my lab because of the cranberry extract. As a result I am going to try One Step which is a less aggressive, no rinse cleaner and a sanitizer.

http://www.ecologiccleansers.com/one-step.php

 

[turk]

....I'm on board too man...just ordered some from amazon...I have one hydratube sssfg ( hydraline) which has proved problematic in maintaining cleanliness, and has developed stains...will try this as I have really "burnt out" of the iso methods...thanks again t-dub for another good informational thread...

 

[oli]

Thanks guys for the advice so far!

I have also found this place

http://www.cervezasdelmundo.com/productos/show/limpiador-pbw-five-star-1-8kg

27,54 € + 7,76 € (shipping) = 35,30 € for 1.8 kg or 4 lb



1lb = 6.88 Euros or 5.05 sterling (since one of the offers was for sterling) (The state side offers are discounted rapidly because of the high cost of transport, 20 +)

So all and all not bad, but since I've never used it, does 1.8 kg sound like 10 month worth or 10 years worth???


Edit:

Just noticed they do a pound one also but for 17,74 € (shipping incl)
http://www.cervezasdelmundo.com/productos/show/limpiador-pbw-five-star-450g

Well the math here are easy:
For twice the price you get 4 times the quantity, no brainer, well that is once again if it wont outlast me...

 

[t-dub]

....I'm on board too man...just ordered some from amazon...I have one hydratube sssfg ( hydraline) which has proved problematic in maintaining cleanliness, and has developed stains...will try this as I have really "burnt out" of the iso methods...thanks again t-dub for another good informational thread...

Thanks for participating turk, I appreciate your feedback . . .

 

[Enchantre]

Thanks guys for the advice so far!

I have also found this place

http://www.cervezasdelmundo.com/productos/show/limpiador-pbw-five-star-1-8kg

27,54 € + 7,76 € (shipping) = 35,30 € for 1.8 kg or 4 lb



1lb = 6.88 Euros or 5.05 sterling (since one of the offers was for sterling) (The state side offers are discounted rapidly because of the high cost of transport, 20 +)

So all and all not bad, but since I've never used it, does 1.8 kg sound like 10 month worth or 10 years worth???


Edit:

Just noticed they do a pound one also but for 17,74 € (shipping incl)
http://www.cervezasdelmundo.com/productos/show/limpiador-pbw-five-star-450g

Well the math here are easy:
For twice the price you get 4 times the quantity, no brainer, well that is once again if it wont outlast me...

Closer to the 10-month rather than 10 years, but hey, if you really use it right, like t-dub does, it could last a couple of years. My tub that size (I also use it in the dishwasher) is over 6 months old, and maybe I have 10% of it left.

 

[clafuu]

Sorry to post right in the middle of the thread, but after lurking for a while just wanted to stop by and say that after my first rinse of PBW I am seeing some results. I can see where some "build up" of sorts has been removed. I still have some questions for what a good ratio of PBW:Water is, as well as how long should I let it soak? Are multiple short quick soaks more effective or would overnight soaks be more beneficial? Thanks so much anyone that can help!