Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

[pakalolo]

I'm not talking about headphones with multiple functions, I'm talking about one button with two purposes, power and temp change. Do you prefer the current setup of a button under the mouthpiece and the mouthpiece being the switch? Personally, I think the current setup is a shitty design. If you would have a hard time remembering to push the button three times to turn it on then I don't know what to tell you. I dont think it's very tough to remember and it is how most oil pens work. Your time must be extremely valuable if holding a button for three seconds is a major annoyance. Do you happen to have any ideas on how to improve the design?

Let's drop the sarcasm, shall we? We don't want a flame war in here.

 

[vapeguy]

I'm not talking about headphones with multiple functions, I'm talking about one button with two purposes, power and temp change. Do you prefer the current setup of a button under the mouthpiece and the mouthpiece being the switch? Personally, I think the current setup is a shitty design. If you would have a hard time remembering to push the button three times to turn it on then I don't know what to tell you. I dont think it's very tough to remember and it is how most oil pens work. Your time must be extremely valuable if holding a button for three seconds is a major annoyance. Do you happen to have any ideas on how to improve the design?

I don't have my Pax yet but I do like the mouthpiece also being the power switch, I do however find the button under the mouthpiece to be strange, but at least you can't accidentally change the temp like with many other vapes so it's a plus at the same time.

It's not only remembering to push the button 3 times to power it on, there has to be a different "pattern" for off, temp up and temp down, so it's 4 specific patterns to remember along with what they do. It would be far more simple to at least have 2 buttons like the Solo than programming 4 different functions into a single button, but without a doubt I prefer the current design than having to learn "morse code" to operate a vaporizer.

I can only imagine users of such a crazy design going "ah ****, short long long short short was power off, it's short long long long short to increase the temp! It's been a year I had this vape and I still can't remember how it works!". Yes I am exaggerating the patterns required but you get the idea.

 

[Deadshort480]

I don't really get the idea, because it wouldn't be confusing in any way. 3 clicks = on. While on, clicking cycles the three temperatures. Holding turns it off. I don't find that confusing. Once you have your Pax, you may be changing your mind about the power being toggled with the mouthpiece. The first time it gets sticky and won't rise up or if you start getting the temp light when you're out and about, you'll be thinking about how the design isn't that great. You might even think, I wish this thing just had a button on the outside that I can use.

Pak, I was not trying to be sarcastic, I was being honest. I was not trying to start a flame war because I'm not a 16 year old kid with the goal to piss people off. I've always been nothing but considerate to every member I've had contact with on this forum. Maybe a private message to me would have been a bit more appropriate?

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I agree, even if they add a second 'pin' to the mouthpiece on the opposite side and put the latch and ring on the secondary pin, leaving the airpath unbreached (theres a tiny hole in the air path which probably attributes to a lot of the problems) The pin would still probably get slightly resinated, but not to the point where you cant clean it, there would be no stainless tube to work around, it'd just be a tiny little pit with a latch inside, you could probably clean it with a qtip instead of pipe cleaners.

 

[pakalolo]

Pak, I was not trying to be sarcastic, I was being honest. I was not trying to start a flame war because I'm not a 16 year old kid with the goal to piss people off. I've always been nothing but considerate to every member I've had contact with on this forum. Maybe a private message to me would have been a bit more appropriate?

The appropriate place for a PM was that comment to me. It is not at all appropriate for my comment because I can't head off a flame war by only talking to one side. If you feel you weren't being sarcastic then you need to brush up on your communication skills—and that's not sarcasm, that's genuine. I saw the underlined comments as clear sarcasm and my intention was to stop aab1 from reacting badly as much as it was to get you to tone it down, and to let everyone following along not to get involved. That's how you hose down a hot spot.

If you have anything further you want to say about this, do it in a PM before I have to give you a point for discussing a staff decision—which, I will remind you, is a rule you've already broken once.

 

[ipax]

I'm not talking about headphones with multiple functions, I'm talking about one button with two purposes, power and temp change. Do you prefer the current setup of a button under the mouthpiece and the mouthpiece being the switch? Personally, I think the current setup is a shitty design. If you would have a hard time remembering to push the button three times to turn it on then I don't know what to tell you. I dont think it's very tough to remember and it is how most oil pens work. Your time must be extremely valuable if holding a button for three seconds is a major annoyance. Do you happen to have any ideas on how to improve the design?

Devices with that kind of complexity don't catch on in a popular way, which is what the pax is aimed at. They went for iPod-ingenuity/simplicity.
I think the current setup is fine, as it keeps the pax minimal. If they could just find away around the temp light issue it'd be solid. p.s. where on the east coast are ya from?

 

[Deadshort480]

Devices with that kind of complexity don't catch on in a popular way, which is what the pax is aimed at. They went for iPod-ingenuity/simplicity.
I think the current setup is fine, as it keeps the pax minimal. If they could just find away around the temp light issue it'd be solid. p.s. where on the east coast are ya from?

I agree somewhat. The device is simple, but the cleaning can become complex. It can become complex to the point where people have had to return their units because of damage to the temp button. I am simply saying that the major problems most people have with this unit could be fixed by the addition of an analog button instead of what the setup we're working with now.

New York, just northwest of Manhattan.

 

[skippy]

This question has probably been answered somewhere on the 342 pages of this thread and while I have attempted to read many pages I have not found the answer, so here goes.......
Can somebody please tell me if you load the pax up do you need to vape it all in one session, or can you leave it for a few hours and come back to it, as long as you turn it off of course? I was thinking if you can get ten good hits out of it can I split them up and have say five hits now then another five in a couple of hours?

 

[Anders Nelson]

This question has probably been answered somewhere on the 342 pages of this thread and while I have attempted to read many pages I have not found the answer, so here goes.......
Can somebody please tell me if you load the pax up do you need to vape it all in one session, or can you leave it for a few hours and come back to it, as long as you turn it off of course? I was thinking if you can get ten good hits out of it can I split them up and have say five hits now then another five in a couple of hours?

I actually do that all the time; I vape at night to fall asleep, then before I go to classes I vape the rest of the bowl in the shower. It works out perfectly and it is really handy

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

This question has probably been answered somewhere on the 342 pages of this thread and while I have attempted to read many pages I have not found the answer, so here goes.......
Can somebody please tell me if you load the pax up do you need to vape it all in one session, or can you leave it for a few hours and come back to it, as long as you turn it off of course? I was thinking if you can get ten good hits out of it can I split them up and have say five hits now then another five in a couple of hours?

you can, it'll suffer in the taste department, but you'll be fine. You'd enjoy it more probably if you pack what you want to blaze and pack a fresh one later.

 

[skippy]

you can, it'll suffer in the taste department, but you'll be fine. You'd enjoy it more probably if you pack what you want to blaze and pack a fresh one later.

Thanks Mr Krinkle. I was just seeing if it would be feasible for me to use a Pax, given I am used to useing small quantities with a MFLB. I love my MFLB but I really like the contempory look of the pax and thought I would like to add something different to my collection, which ATM is just two MFLBs. I have read pretty much all of the threads on the portables and I like the look of the pax the best, it just looks really user friendly and slick.

Thanks Anders, that sounds good.
Oops, sorry for the double post.

mod note: Thanks for noticing. Empty post deleted

 

[vapeguy]

I agree, even if they add a second 'pin' to the mouthpiece on the opposite side and put the latch and ring on the secondary pin, leaving the airpath unbreached (theres a tiny hole in the air path which probably attributes to a lot of the problems) The pin would still probably get slightly resinated, but not to the point where you cant clean it, there would be no stainless tube to work around, it'd just be a tiny little pit with a latch inside, you could probably clean it with a qtip instead of pipe cleaners.

As I said I don't have my Pax yet, but are the issues with the power switch/mouthpiece sensor not working well? If so I think a magnetic switch would without a doubt be the most reliable solution, they could simply have a small magnet under the mouthpiece and a magnet switch (sensor) sealed off inside the Pax, and when it detects the magnet is further away (mouthpiece popped up) it would turn the unit on. This way no amount of resin would ever interfere with the switch. Then there would be the "mouthpiece removed sensor" which I guess could be another sensor to detect when the magnet is fully removed to enter temperature settings mode.

Of course none of that would resolve the mouthpiece itself becoming sticky but at least it would solve the electrical issues that happen with the current design when it's dirty.

 

[Doctor.Who]

An LED light would take about 1% the power the oven does, battery life would be virtually exactly the same, even if it stayed on all the time during use. I don't really think it's a great idea anyway, is it that hard to turn on the light or use another light source?

What if the innerlip glowed?

 

[ipax]

I agree somewhat. The device is simple, but the cleaning can become complex. It can become complex to the point where people have had to return their units because of damage to the temp button. I am simply saying that the major problems most people have with this unit could be fixed by the addition of an analog button instead of what the setup we're working with now.

New York, just northwest of Manhattan.

I've got a feeling most people who use it (i.e. the 99% that aren't on this forum) probably just run a pipe cleaner through it, if even that.

Thats kickass, Im up by albany.

 

[Deadshort480]

Thats kickass, Im up by albany.

I had to drive up there today. Two hours up, walked into an office for 5 minutes to pick up an ID card, 2 hours back. Luckily I had my Pax loaded to the brim with Cherry Pie. I hit Roy Rogers at the Ulster rest stop on the way home. I haven't had RR in years and it was pretty damn good. I just wish it was a nicer day. I love that open blue sky when driving on the Thruway.

 

[vapeguy]

Does the Pax remember your temperature setting after being turned off and back on? Does it stay at the temperature you set until you change it to something else yourself? Or does it default back to medium when you turn it off and back on?

What temperature do you guys start and end at?

Would you say a packed Pax packs a punch?

Thanks

 

[michele]

That is one nice trick! I've tried it the pax several times and found that using it by myself, it does take a lot to fill up the oven and it's actually wasting my flowers. What is the size of the screen?I'm looking on ebay and found a bunch. Much appreciated...........

it's a 20mm screen.

 

[MolecularConcept]

Yes it remembers your temp setting.

And it is turned on and off by a magnet under the MP .the coennection to the switch tells the unit weather the MP is in or out . If its out r is sticky and not making the electrical conection it wont heat and displays the current temp(needs cleaned)

 

[welderboy]

if anyone is wondering,,,the pax is turned on and off by the magnet in the bottiom of the mp. you can actually run the pax with the mp down by simply sticking a strong magnet around 8 o'clock by the LED. this cancels out the magnetic field of the mp and fools the pax into thinking the mp is up. this can be helpful if your mp is glued shut and some heat is required to loosen it, but it can also be the demise of your load, as in toros case.

 

[TommydCat]

Bah.. That never happens!

 

[the dude]

Hi guys. Having some issues. It eventually gets fixed when it warms up but i clean my pax all the time so i should mot be having issues. When i try turning it on the mouthpiece sort of jerks its way to being fully extended. And it is extending too much to the point where the temp light is on and i can see the light inside the pax showing because the mouthpiece isnt in the right position. Any suggestioms!

 

[vapeguy]

If you already cleaned the mp and airpath inside the Pax then I think you need to clean the spring, I read about it earlier in this thread, but I'm sure others will get you the answer (I ordered a Pax but haven't received it yet),

After reading of more and more people having their Inhalater XP dying after days or weeks of use I'm glad I decided on the Pax, it's scary how many people have the XP fail so soon and having 1, 2 or even 3 replacements fail.

 

[lowkee00]

This question has probably been answered somewhere on the 342 pages of this thread and while I have attempted to read many pages I have not found the answer, so here goes.......
Can somebody please tell me if you load the pax up do you need to vape it all in one session, or can you leave it for a few hours and come back to it, as long as you turn it off of course? I was thinking if you can get ten good hits out of it can I split them up and have say five hits now then another five in a couple of hours?

I like to load it full, takes .4 gram or more packed. do low setting for 7 draw or so and then 7 more on med. the next day, I can stir it up repack it and get 7 more good hits on medium. I never use high.

I also want to say I bought a 1 oz bottle of the glycerol on ebay for $4. Everytime I run the pipe cleaner through, I give a good dab of the glycerol. it seems to never have issues with sticking anything.

 

[skippy]

Oh thanks lowkee, that sounds good. Does it taste ok the second day?

 

[lowkee00]

Oh thanks lowkee, that sounds good. Does it taste ok the second day?

it's a starter bowl the 2nd day, it tastes ok.