Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

[fogbank]

I guess I got the old style even though I got it less than a month ago. Ordered though VapeWorld, maybe that's why.

I would like to know for sure if the smoother finish vs. rougher finish is really a matter of "newer vs. older" models. I think there have been assumptions made based on when people received their Pax.

I bought two directly from Ploom, about 2-3 weeks apart. The Onyx model I received (first) has a smoother finish than the Cobalt model I received.

But maybe the difference can be attributed to different production runs, different production lines, different raw material sources, etc...?

Unless Ploom comes out and states that the rougher finish is a newer design then I don't think we can assume it is intentional.

I have a question: there's apparently an O ring on the mouthpiece? Can anyone post a picture of it? I think mine fell off but I'm not sure. Thanks.

I see no O rings on my mouthpieces. There is a metal sleeve that moves up and down, but no O rings that I'm aware of.

 

[Pheonix239]

On that note, a common thing to do with concentrates in other vapes is to smear a bit in a cotton ball and place that in the vape. I'm assuming since the Pax is mostly conduction that this wouldn't work in the Pax oven so well?

I asked the same thing a couple days ago because i made some avb qwiso. Putting it on the cotton worked really well in my DBV but when I tried the pax it didn't give off much vapor even on the high setting and had kind of a funny taste.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I would like to know for sure if the smoother finish vs. rougher finish is really a matter of "newer vs. older" models. I think there have been assumptions made based on when people received their Pax.

But maybe the difference can be attributed to different production runs, different production lines, different raw material sources, etc...?

Unless Ploom comes out and states that the rougher finish is a newer design then I don't think we can assume it is intentional.

I have said the same thing, they're probably fine tuning the painting process (anodizing) nothing more. Everyones goin nuts for the "new finish" they might have more than one anodizing company, two different companies would have two different finishes unless they were giving each other notes on how long the aluminum is in the dye tanks and stuff like that. The shells have to be blasted with electrical currents and then dipped in an acid bath with dye to get the colors they have. Its a similar to metal plating like chrome or nickel. Even leaving it in an extra minute will make a large visible difference in the hue/color. (Look at their pax page, there is two different blue pax models on it, light blue and dark blue, NOT purple.)

 

[HephziBubba]

A quote from the Pax FAQ page:
Has the external finish on the unit changed? Is there any change in functionality?


Pax now features a bead-blasted anodized aluminum shell. This updated finish provides increased durability and improved consistency of finish.
- See more at: http://www.ploom.com/support#has-th...-changed-is-there-any-change-in-functionality

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

They sent me the replacement without me sending the original first. (I do have to send it back however, but I was still stoked to not have to send it first) & it's a She lol but no offense taken.

Sorry miss. That was nice of them!

 

[dachshund]

I see no O rings on my mouthpieces. There is a metal sleeve that moves up and down, but no O rings that I'm aware of.

Maybe O ring is the wrong term. I had read that there's some sort of ring that tends to fall off.

 

[Dr.Dank]

Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster. So I picked up the pax a week ago and so far it's worked like a champ. Haven't cleaned it yet (I've only used it twice). I charged it initially after getting it and then again after I depleted it during the first session. However. when I went to charge it again I left it charging over night, took it off with the green light on indicating it was fully charged, and shook it only to see that it was on yellow. I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight. I know battery readings can be a little wonkie at first but this just makes me uneasy.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

if you took it off and it was green, left it over night and upon rechecking it was yellow, this is normal. If you left it on the charger all night, took it off to check the status, and it was yellow, then you may want to do some trouble shooting. Not sure which scenario is yours. Either way I wouldnt pay too much attention to the indicator, just use it til it dies, dont check the battery once, just keep it heated til it shuts off, if you got a reasonable session out of it than no need to be alarmed. If you got 15-20 minutes before it dies then you might want to send it back I'd say any where from a little over an hour to an hour and 40 minutes is what you should get depending on the temp settings and random factors such as outside temperature, I've never timed it but I think the 2 hour claim they make is maybe a stretch even under Ideal circumstances with it on low, I've never tested my heating times though so I cannot say with certainty.

Maybe O ring is the wrong term. I had read that there's some sort of ring that tends to fall off.

Theres a locking ring on the stem of the mouthpiece, it doesnt tend to fall off however. That is, not unless you use a bit of force and remove the stem from the plastic mouthpiece, then remove the ring from the stainless tube. There's not a real point in removing this unless you are trying to get it spotless clean, if you do so I'd make note of which way the ring sits and be sure not to loose it as it is very small.

 

[Reflections]

Dr Danik... can mean u just have your temp setting on low... low is yellow..med is orange... high is red

 

[Mel Samgour]

I would like to know for sure if the smoother finish vs. rougher finish is really a matter of "newer vs. older" models. I think there have been assumptions made based on when people received their Pax.

I bought two directly from Ploom, about 2-3 weeks apart. The Onyx model I received (first) has a smoother finish than the Cobalt model I received.
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Yes, I asked them and it is the newer model just with "minor changes" as they said.

 

[Onion_Kush]

Well, after a couple days of use my Pax is already broken. The mouthpiece is stuck down and won't pop up (I've tried using a blow dryer) and this happened after a cleaning. Amazing that this is $250, yet my $99 MFLB still works years later. Very unhappy.

 

[supersm0ke]

Well, after a couple days of use my Pax is already broken. The mouthpiece is stuck down and won't pop up (I've tried using a blow dryer) and this happened after a cleaning. Amazing that this is $250, yet my $99 MFLB still works years later. Very unhappy.

that's why i sold mine to a friend and invested in the solo. i was able to unstick mine sometimes, but it was too big a nuisance especially in cold weather, which only made it worse. tbh it stopped working as well as it did the first few months too.

 

[VanTheMan]

Hey everyone - great forum thread! Been lurking since learning about the Pax and this is my only my second post.

Bought my Pax from Vapeworld in early January. The first one took two hours to charge and the battery indicator went from green/yellow/red in a matter of a few sessions. Other than the battery issue it worked great - no temp light issues for the couple of weeks I used it. Contacted Vapeworld and they told me to send it back. They sent me a new one stating the battery was defective. By the way, Vapeworld customer service was really good.

Received the new one and the battery seems to behave the same way. Charging takes longer than an hour and battery indicator is still wonky. Is this just the way the Pax works or did I get another defective unit? With the ten year warranty I'm thinking it might be a waste to send this one back too since it does "do the job" and I can always send it in under warranty if a more serious problem comes up. Opinions?

Also the new Pax already had lube on the stem when I opened it and exhibited temp light issues within the first couple of charges. Lube fixes it, but the first one I had never exhibited any temp light issues. BTW I cleaned both obsessively. Is anyone disappointed that Ploom is now selling the lube. Quite frankly, I think they should be giving it to us upon request (sending it regular mail would cost like 50 cents).

Anyway - even with the issues I am still enjoying my Pax and am glad I found this forum - it's a great resource!

 

[JoeKickass]

Well, after a couple days of use my Pax is already broken. The mouthpiece is stuck down and won't pop up (I've tried using a blow dryer) and this happened after a cleaning. Amazing that this is $250, yet my $99 MFLB still works years later. Very unhappy.

Does it move at all? Try letting it rise very slowly

 

[welderboy]

im thinking a lot of pax's internal problems are bad batteries. ive been using my pax as a guinea pig, trying out different batteries, and it has no problems whatsoever. I get 2 hours of continuous high (red) setting on a panasonic 18650. I only get about an hour and a half out of cheap chinese batteries.

 

[tranceporter]

7 Months of use and I still love the shit out of my Pax.

Also the new Pax already had lube on the stem when I opened it and exhibited temp light issues within the first couple of charges.

My new rough finish Pax seems to have the temp light pop more often than my smooth one did as well. It would only happen on the smooth when it was very dirty like after 6-8 uses. It happens on the new one after 3-5 uses but goes away after a THOROUGH cleaning. I still have yet to use the lube and probably never will.

 

[TommydCat]

You're telling me that the thing on the left will fit in the thing in the middle without requiring much of the thing on the right?

 

[welderboy]

Yup, lol, battery swap is a breeze.

 

[JoeKickass]

Yup, lol, battery swap is a breeze.

If you have a tiny torx #5* bit and can solder to the tabs that you had spot welded on the battery...

(*T4 thanks, I just use a flathead but it messes up the screw a bit)

 

[welderboy]

T-4 torx

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

Hey everyone - great forum thread! Been lurking since learning about the Pax and this is my only my second post.

Bought my Pax from Vapeworld in early January. The first one took two hours to charge and the battery indicator went from green/yellow/red in a matter of a few sessions. Other than the battery issue it worked great - no temp light issues for the couple of weeks I used it. Contacted Vapeworld and they told me to send it back. They sent me a new one stating the battery was defective. By the way, Vapeworld customer service was really good.

The battery is no longer advertised as a 1 hour charge, I returned two for taking over 2 hours to charge. You can look at their Q&A and it clearly says 2 hours. A few sessions is normal for the indicator to go through green orange and red. I really hate the indicator its the cause of a lot of anxiety for some trying to make heads or tails of this thing. Both mine get about 1 and a half to 2 hours charge depending on how dead I let them get. I have never ever once gotten a hour charge on any of the 5 (yes five) Pax models I owned, actually for the first time I got under 2 hours of charge, it was with my defective self repaired pax. Others have said they get an hour charge, but I noticed its a lot of people that had the early models, perhaps the batteries have been changed for reliability or something. I dont think they are broken or faulty with a 2 hour charge, my newest model gets 2 hours sometimes running it dead, it gets an hour and a half sometimes too running it completely dead under the same conditions, I keep saying the power indicator on these is fucky. meh.

 

[VanTheMan]

Thanks for the reply! I think I'll keep this one and if something goes terribly wrong I can always replace it under the warranty.

 

[welderboy]

i agree with mr krinkle, the battery indicator can be very wonky. Also, every user is different. A person who is constantly turning the pax on and off will drain the battery faster than a person like me, who prefers longer sessions, because it takes more amps to heat up the oven than it does to keep the oven hot. Over time you will know how much battery life you have, according to your routine.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

Well I was more concerned with the battery charge time, this was my biggest problem for a while. They advertised 1 hour charge time, and mine were all taking two. I think what they were implying it will take an hour to charge if you put your pax on the charger at red power status (not fully dead) under best case scenario. I think thats probably why they changed it to two hours in their Q&A, I posted about it a while ago when I noticed they changed it. Here is what I have noticed, when I was intentionally running my pax dead on party mode after getting it down significantly past red with regular use, this was taking about 1:50 - 2:10 to charge. When I was using it on the go, and it just pooped out from using it down to the last juice, it took an hour and a half to charge. I have both charger types, and neither makes a difference in charge time. I think the longer charge times are happening from significant drainage, perhaps the cutoff point for the battery isnt precise, or party mode slightly overrides this . (as someone else stated, the battery only drains to 50% and then cuts off to maintain longevity of the battery life) Beats me. I love my pax. Its nice knowing if it fucks up they have no problem returning it.

 

[welderboy]

all my batteries take roughly 1:10 from dead flat to green.but i don't know if that is fully charged. maybe if i get bored, i'll do some testing with the multi-meter.