Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

[IL S ID]

Cool welderboy, Thanks.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

Whats good all? New to the site, place is cool, hope I'm in the right neighborhood here. Sorry if I'm not. Anyways, I've had a PAX for a month now. All is well. Zero issues. I am curious, however, if any of ya'll got any tricks or techniques on cleaning your "burn chamber screen", (removable), back to its OG ss shine? I scrub like Snow White all day with ISO and cue tips, but I get tennis knuckle. Any easy way out? Thanks, IL

I use a dremmel tool, I bought a wire cleaning brush and it seriously gets it brand new looking, you can even get the gook out of the small crevices in the top of the screen. I finish it with a cotton buffer after sometimes, completely not necessary but I do have slight ocd and it needs to be spotless for me when I clean it. You can use hot water and qtips as I stated the other day, I seriously have never been more surprised, it works amazing. I didnt try it on the screen, but I cleaned my ovens to brand new condition with just qtips and water, allowing the pax to heat up while I scrub it with wet qtips. The ovens get worse than the screen so I'd bet it works great, I'll give it a shot and tell you how it goes. Magic erasers are pritty wonderful too, expensive and basically one time use per chunk but still works great. nice name lol

 

[IL S ID]

PRIMUS SUCKS! Thanks for the tip Mr.K, I'll give'm a try.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-428-Carbon-Steel-Brush/dp/B00004UDHB/ref=sr_1_6?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1363114569&sr=1-6&keywords=wire wheel dremel this guy. http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-7300-N...ie=UTF8&qid=1363114614&sr=8-6&keywords=dremel these are nice and cheep and work. You can use the cloth tips too and they work great for the stem of the mouthpiece, the wire wheel works great on the mouthpiece stem too but I worry its a bit rough for the job. I paid 20 bucks for 3 screens in store, plus I had to drive 45 minutes to get there, for that price, you can get a new dremel.

 

[Vitolo]

For no scarring...
0000 steel wool is best (moistened with 91%Iso)
000 works also

 

[IL S ID]

For no scarring...
0000 steel wool is best (moistened with 91%Iso)
000 works also

Thanks Vitolo! I recognize you from Youtube...I'm a big fan of your videos and their music! Appreciate your advice!

 

[Doctor.Who]

So it's interesting that we assume there are different generations.. After talking directly too Pax looks like it's not a generation so much as a assembly line made on date. Different paint mixers, thickness of paint, etc... but cool to know what we should look for thanks!!

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I and others have been saying that every time the subject comes up.

 

[Rogerio Duarte]

OK... so Im pretty sure there are 3 different generations of PAX out. These can be identified by the finish on the metal.

1st gen = completely smooth and you can see some vertical milling lines are prominent
2nd gen = lightly bead blasted finish and if you stare really hard you can see some vertical milling lines and also has improved mouth piece
3rd gen = heavier bead blasted finish creates a "sparkle" effect when in the light and also has improved mouth piece as well

personally Im more inclined to 2nd gen over the 3rd gen with regards to looks as its more discrete (especially in black).

However, looks aside, are there any performance differences between the 2nd and 3rd gen? Im hearing a lot about these temperature buttons being different on the 3rd generation (having more of a delay before illuminating). is this true?

Are there any other difference between the 2nd and 3rd gen PAXs?

Is there a real reason for having a heavier bead blasted finish besides improved grip? Does the heavier bead blasting make the anodized color stay on better? (PAX's tend to scratch the anodized finish off the edges however the edges arent bead blasted anyways)

in short... i'd like to get a better understanding on the differences between 2nd and 3rd gen PAXs.

Thanks

Just one question, which gen is more stealth, I mean less smelling?

Thanks

 

[Mel Samgour]

Just one question, which gen is more stealth, I mean less smelling?

Thanks

For smell, my boyfriend who is co owner of the Pax, says the second gen smells less than the first.
I dont notice as much as he does, but to me it was pretty similar smell.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

Are you two serious?

 

[Nuggeteer]

I have had the Pax for 3 months. Love it - I quit smoking.

I am looking for help in swapping out the stock battery with a brand new Panasonic 18650 3400 mah li-ion battery (Pax's stock is 2600 mah). This new battery is noted as being the strongest in the world for its size.

I received a replacement Pax with a smoother finish after my first Pax's oven wouldn't hold screens anymore (defective). My new Pax takes 2 hours to charge vs. 55 minutes for my old Pax. I also believe my new Pax has a little less quality battery than the first, and the charge time being double this does not really make much sense. I still get a good 5 sessions out of the new Pax but i want to upgrade my battery.

So I need some help.

- Do i purchase a protected version or a non-protected version of the 3400mah battery? (protected has a micro chip in it)

- What else will i need to know? I have already purchased a Torx #4 bit for this project, and i can solder.

Here's a link for what i'm looking at buying http://www.ebay.com/itm/221190672249?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

[JoeKickass]

Yeah the pax's "generations" are just MP and finish changes... the vape itself is largely the same thing from the beginning! (Turned off it doesn't smell too much, but be comfortable before you click it on.

My new Pax takes 2 hours to charge vs. 55 minutes for my old Pax.

Replacing the battery won't improve the charge time unfortunately

 

[welderboy]

- Do i purchase a protected version or a non-protected version of the 3400mah battery? (protected has a micro chip in it)

- What else will i need to know? I have already purchased a Torx #4 bit for this project, and i can solder.

Here's a link for what i'm looking at buying http://www.ebay.com/itm/221190672249?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

that battery in the link is too big (69mm) for the pax. you can use an unprotected battery, because the pax has it's own internal cutoff. you have to watch the battery size (65 mm-66mm). some protected batteries are longer, because of the chip (like yours).

 

[pakalolo]

Replacing the battery won't improve the charge time unfortunately

Quite the opposite in fact. A larger capacity battery obviously will take even longer to charge.

I believe it was concluded somewhere in this thread that the Pax has battery-specific code in its logic so swapping the battery isn't straightforward, but perhaps I'm thinking of a different thread.

 

[CentiZen]

JoeKickass was able to replace his battery with an NCR18650A and apparently it is working well. Unfortunately it requires a bit of solder-fu to get done, so it's not something that could be done by just anyone.

 

[welderboy]

no-solder swappable batteries. the gray battery is the original, the green is a panasonic $15.00, the purple ones are chinese 2 for $12.00. i soldered micro bullet connectors on the batteries and wires, just plug em in and go. theres not a big difference in performance, but the panasonic does get almost 2 hours of high (red) on party mode. they all charge up to green in 1hr 10min, but I'll bet the larger capacity batteries need to stay on longer to get a full charge. I did the mod just for kicks once i saw ppl on here doing it. I left the original battery intact, I'm confident i can put the pax back together in original shape, should i ever have to send it back.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I have had the Pax for 3 months. Love it - I quit smoking.

I am looking for help in swapping out the stock battery with a brand new Panasonic 18650 3400 mah li-ion battery (Pax's stock is 2600 mah). This new battery is noted as being the strongest in the world for its size.

I received a replacement Pax with a smoother finish after my first Pax's oven wouldn't hold screens anymore (defective). My new Pax takes 2 hours to charge vs. 55 minutes for my old Pax. I also believe my new Pax has a little less quality battery than the first, and the charge time being double this does not really make much sense. I still get a good 5 sessions out of the new Pax but i want to upgrade my battery.

So I need some help.

- Do i purchase a protected version or a non-protected version of the 3400mah battery? (protected has a micro chip in it)

- What else will i need to know? I have already purchased a Torx #4 bit for this project, and i can solder.

Here's a link for what i'm looking at buying http://www.ebay.com/itm/221190672249?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

you will void your warranty by doing this Pax is pretty finicky on its own, I probably wouldnt be so confident of an owner if I didnt have a ten year warranty backing it. I'd just hang in there and wait, perhaps they will do an overhaul and you will not be able to take advantage of an exchange if and when they do. You can try using it full to dead a few times, my charge time has improved by a half hour on one of my models, although my newest model does take 2 hours to charge last time I checked.

mod note: Edited to fix incorrectly attributed quote. I thought that bug had been fixed, guess not.

 

[HephziBubba]

Quite the opposite in fact. A larger capacity battery obviously will take even longer to charge.

I believe it was concluded somewhere in this thread that the Pax has battery-specific code in its logic so swapping the battery isn't straightforward, but perhaps I'm thinking of a different thread.

I think it was the Puffit that had battery-specific code in its logic - something to do with using the USB standard for charging.

JoeKickAss took one for the team and installed a new battery. I am pretty sure he said it wasn't worth the trouble. I am definitely sure the Ploomarati would frown on it!

 

[CentiZen]

no-solder swappable batteries. the gray battery is the original, the green is a panasonic $15.00, the purple ones are chinese 2 for $12.00. i soldered micro bullet connectors on the batteries and wires, just plug em in and go. theres not a big difference in performance, but the panasonic does get almost 2 hours of high (red) on party mode. they all charge up to green in 1hr 10min, but I'll bet the larger capacity batteries need to stay on longer to get a full charge. I did the mod just for kicks once i saw ppl on here doing it. I left the original battery intact, I'm confident i can put the pax back together in original shape, should i ever have to send it back.

Dude, holy fuck.

I love you.

 

[terpsfan726]

no-solder swappable batteries. the gray battery is the original, the green is a panasonic $15.00, the purple ones are chinese 2 for $12.00. i soldered micro bullet connectors on the batteries and wires, just plug em in and go. theres not a big difference in performance, but the panasonic does get almost 2 hours of high (red) on party mode. they all charge up to green in 1hr 10min, but I'll bet the larger capacity batteries need to stay on longer to get a full charge. I did the mod just for kicks once i saw ppl on here doing it. I left the original battery intact, I'm confident i can put the pax back together in original shape, should i ever have to send it back.

shit, you make it look so simple...

if i even attempted to use a soldering iron, things will get real messy

 

[murph17]

So has anyone found a good smell proof Pax case? I'm carrying around an smell proof Opsack - gets the job done, but kinda unwieldy.

 

[TommydCat]

Been looking in a few of the LHSs and such and not finding a good smell-proof case/bag as well. I'm not asking for miracle in blocking smell -- I'm willing to give up a bit of that to replace the zip-lock bag I use otherwise. Not very fashionable carrying arrangement for such a fashion statement.

Where's the aftermarket?

 

[jeff]

So has anyone found a good smell proof Pax case? I'm carrying around an smell proof Opsack - gets the job done, but kinda unwieldy.

I'd look at small pelican and otterbox cases. They crush proof, impact proof, and water proof. Thus they are airtight no smell can escape. This is what I do with my Whispr. I got one big enough for the whisper, a poker, a stash box, and a mini mini 2 piece grinder.

 

[TommydCat]

I know about the indestructi-cases (which are actually really great for what they are), but looking for something a bit more pocket/backpack friendly. Basically like a zip-lock that's not a zip-lock, lol... Something fabric or feels good handling and comfortable to stash in a front pocket while cutting down the obvious smell.. like I said, doesn't have to be air-tight, just non-mmj-friendly-friendly.

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