Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Thanks for elaborating OF, I was kinda busy. Glad you fixed it Dallas. BTW, the weight of the carts vary a bit. 7.48-8.2 or so.
 
havealight101,

Dallas.

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It certainly is possible that I got one of the lighter carts.

I'm hoping that there is some PG left in the cart, but I would assume that it if there was any left in it vapor would be leaking from the bottom.

You guys are very helpful. :) Now I just gotta work on getting rid of that taste... does anybody else think it tastes similar to peeps marshmallows?
 
Dallas.,

VAPORIZER22

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Yes, at the top, under the mouthpiece completely.

I found that if I load the oil correctly I seldom, if ever, have to melt one down after it gets going. The 'trick' is to be sure the tube is good and warm under the funnel so the load drops straight to the bottom in one go with no gaps. If you do it 'right' you feel the heat at the bottom rapidly rise when the hot concentrated drops down in a single mass.

In the rare case where it does stall out with more than say 150 mg left from dry weight and I elect to try melting it down I simply cut the label off. It's easy to print another and also possible to reuse the same one with another layer of tape.

Doing it at the top also means you can read the label when on a V1.



Yes, quite normal. You're no doubt pushing the battery out of contact.

OF

Yea, that is what was basically happening, just expected it be more like the Tenergy charger where they sort of get locked into place.

Will the light stay green or still flash red ever so often when fully charged?

Thanks
 
VAPORIZER22,

Dallas.

Member
Yea, that is what was basically happening, just expected it be more like the Tenergy charger where they sort of get locked into place.

Will the light stay green or still flash red ever so often when fully charged?

Thanks

My charger will flash red/green in varying speeds when they are fully charged sometimes. Other times, it's solid green. I've seen other users report similar issues, so it's probably fairly common.

Thankfully it isn't red/blue or else people would be having seizures LOL
 
Dallas.,

Sinclue

OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
my question is if you can eventually overcome that problem.

-Z

Sadly I think the answer is no. Even if you drain the cart you have as much as .2g of old "smelly" oil left in it to contaminate any new additions. The taste just seems to linger in my experience. And, of course, the reclaimed oil will still retain some of that taste even used in another device.

I've been testing some of the pre-oxidized 4.o carts and the taste issue is almost gone. So you definitely should pre-oxidize any and all new carts before loading. And then I'd only load in at most .5 to begin with. Most likely you'll be able to add more and keep using the cart as you consume what you've already put in...assuming the taste is ok.

Word is that a generation of leak-less and clog-less carts in in the offing. In the meantime pre-oxidize and load less than the max.

And don't forget the learning curve.
 
Sinclue,

Zingbuddah

Vaporologist
Sadly I think the answer is no. Even if you drain the cart you have as much as .2g of old "smelly" oil left in it to contaminate any new additions. The taste just seems to linger in my experience. And, of course, the reclaimed oil will still retain some of that taste even used in another device.

I've been testing some of the pre-oxidized 4.o carts and the taste issue is almost gone. So you definitely should pre-oxidize any and all new carts before loading. And then I'd only load in at most .5 to begin with. Most likely you'll be able to add more and keep using the cart as you consume what you've already put in...assuming the taste is ok.

Word is that a generation of leak-less and clog-less carts in in the offing. In the meantime pre-oxidize and load less than the max.

And don't forget the learning curve.

Thanks for the good and bad news....little miffed about losing two carts (I was on pg 128 of the thread when I got my unit) but the third one that I'm pre-oxidizing has almost zero smell. I lucked out and didn't use up my best oils for the first few runs. Tomorrow is our local farmers market and one of the vendors has pre-filled carts available so I'm not down and out.

As far as technique, between the videos and the user comments here I have been pulling great vapor rips with no problems.

Actually, my only problem now is whether to order accessories for this one or pick up a Persei :)

-Z
 
Zingbuddah,

Sinclue

OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Tomorrow is our local farmers market and one of the vendors has pre-filled carts available so I'm not down and out.

Man, I've never heard of a farmers' market that sells carts of hash oils.
 
Sinclue,

PlanetHaze

Don't Vaporize The Planet !, Vaporize Yourself
Retailer
Please let me change the subject just a bit for a moment and get back to a topic a while back, how to carry loose carts. After some more fiddling around I'd like to recommend 'Doob Tubes' for your consideration. I bought a few from Harborside to try out and they work fantastically for the job. They have two tight fitting seals (one backing up the other), yet are very easy to open. Definitely gas tight (no smell or drying out), hold the assembled cart with cap and if necessary adapter. I add a tuft of cotton to the bottom so the carts don't rattle around and to catch any drips that might happen. They're about 5/8 inch in diameter (just fits the soft mouthpiece inside and about 4 inches long, just long enough for half an inch or so of pad at the bottom.

Anyway, lots of head shops stock them. Often custom printed. You can order them straight from the maker (all USA, BTW) with your state's '4:20 Law' printed on it for a dollar or so each:
http://www.doobtubin.com/index.html

These guys are recommended, even if we're not likely to use them for their original intended use....close, but we're not blazing anything here.....

OF

Hi OF,
Perfect timing, look what we just posted in our retailer thread:
http://www.fuckcombustion.com/threa...t-vapes-on-the-planet.4404/page-9#post-222529

P.V.
 
PlanetHaze,

OF

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Come on, don't try that 'perfect timing' stuff....you guys are several hours late, and on the wrong thread....

Pay attention, guys. This stuff's important you know.

Although you do get full points for price and having all the colors. If you want to talk about timing, how about mine having just ordered some goodies from you not long ago? Talk about jumping the proverbial gun.....

You folks continue to set a standard for the rest....who don't seem to be even close at this point. Thanks once again for being on top of our needs, sometimes before we know about them.

OF
 

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
So I see the V2 HVD upgrade is up on the website. Now we just need an FC code to the let the ordering begin....

My O-PHOS upgrades and repaired V2 arrived today as well....
been up for a few days. still can't add to cart, tho
 
Bob Loblaw,

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I've been testing some of the pre-oxidized 4.o carts and the taste issue is almost gone. So you definitely should pre-oxidize any and all new carts before loading. And then I'd only load in at most .5 to begin with. Most likely you'll be able to add more and keep using the cart as you consume what you've already put in...assuming the taste is ok.

.

I have also settled on loading .5g. This avoids many problems for me, no more over loading since the carts I have gotten will vary in weight before loading so at any point in use I can always load another .5g to top off. I also find this keeps flavors better for longer use of the cart and get at least 2g of oil through a cart before replacing with 1.5 ohm carts. I don't get any clogs anymore when I load .5 either.

I have not bought any 2.4ohm carts in a while (I have some that should arrive Monday) and found these only liked 1g before they would get annoyingly clogged or flavor was lost. I chalk some of this up to learning curve and improved carts have been made since I last had 2.4s. I am a stickler to numbers and since there is a .2g lose to the cart I really want more then a 1g load to offset the $10 plus shipping and a 20% lose to the cart plus transfer lose.
 
In all fairness, the 20% left is probably black and nasty, kinda like the end of a dabber. To me, this is the one biggest downfalls of the V1 carts.
 
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OF

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In all fairness, the 20% left is probably black and nasty, kinda like the end of a dabber. To me, this is the one biggest downfalls of the V1 carts.

I agree with this to a point. For sure draining the remaining concentrate under heat is generally disappointing and IMO to be avoided if possible. OTOH, the cart was doing just fine until it ran low. I think the nasty stuff that comes out is probably OK where it was (good enough in quality and not actually in the feed path but of to the side somewhere in some eddy.

I have a cart that has had 5 or maybe even six half grams of PG, still hits like a dreams. Even leaks clear sweet oil when I screw up and let it. But I've no doubt if I upended it and heated it all sorts of dark stuff would come out too.

After some leak issues with 1.5 Ohm carts, and the first two of my special 4 Ohm test carts with SD oil I've had no problems with in 2.4s, I'm also thinking there maybe this issue as well. Or maybe I just have better luck with the 2.4s? Draining most of the concentrate and putting half a gram of wax in fixed the first leaker, the second one I put half a gram of the very same oil back in and after a bit of balking it's back to working fine as well. So, I'm now trying loading a half or so to start if at all in doubt.

I think the carts are definitely the wild card at present. But sometimes that kind of stuff can be fun once you know enough of the rules?

OF
 
OF,
So I went to charge my v1 this morning and I saw that there was some oil on the charger right in the middle also on the bottom of the from the middle. Also I've been noticing I have to prime it every time and for a good amount of time cause I don't feel any air flow. I saw someone wrote to unclog take a needle with alcohol and run it down the hole I did that and noticed resistance so there was some oil in there and it loosened up. So I charged my battery then tried it out. Still needed to prime but was hitting a lot better. I just went to check it out a few hours later and checked the charger and some more oil has leaked out cleaned it up then hit it and took some time to prime but hit awesome. Why is it all of a sudden leaking out the bottom? Is there something I can do to fix this or will I just need a new cart? I am for sure going to use a new cart next time I fill but I'm pretty sure I have a good amount of oil left and want to use it/salvage it. Also I'm trying to keep the cart separate from the batteries after use, would rather lose oil then ruin the battery.

Also these are 1.5 carts

And sorry if this may sound repetitive
 
PointBlank,

OF

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So I went to charge my v1 this morning and I saw that there was some oil on the charger right in the middle also on the bottom of the from the middle. Also I've been noticing I have to prime it every time and for a good amount of time cause I don't feel any air flow. I saw someone wrote to unclog take a needle with alcohol and run it down the hole I did that and noticed resistance so there was some oil in there and it loosened up. So I charged my battery then tried it out. Still needed to prime but was hitting a lot better. I just went to check it out a few hours later and checked the charger and some more oil has leaked out cleaned it up then hit it and took some time to prime but hit awesome. Why is it all of a sudden leaking out the bottom? Is there something I can do to fix this or will I just need a new cart? I am for sure going to use a new cart next time I fill but I'm pretty sure I have a good amount of oil left and want to use it/salvage it. Also I'm trying to keep the cart separate from the batteries after use, would rather lose oil then ruin the battery.

Also these are 1.5 carts

And sorry if this may sound repetitive

It's repetitive, we've been through it dozens of times (literally) on this thread. You'll no doubt find better, more complete advice by researching some but here's a few high points.

BTW, I'm the 'needle in ISO' guy from a day or so back.

Thin oils are harder to deal with than thick. Consider this when selecting loads. Being sure it's dead cold before setting it down helps, keep pulling cold air thorough it until then. Oil along the flue tends to flow down to make the plug (the less common one is below where yours is). Use the needle or wire to remove as much as you can (wipe it off between trips in). If you can get most of it out it probably will be OK next time. After you wipe as much out as the wire or needle will collect (I use the eye of the needle to collect oil) consider the paper towel trick. Cut a 1/4 inch wide (or so) strip from dual ply towel maybe two inches long. Fold it in half lengthwise and twist it into a skinny 'rope'. Thread this up the hole (use one ply only for the smaller bottom hole), twisting as you go, to sop up the oil and pull it out. Consider setting it on it's side for a while (remember the oil might try to drain out).

I like PG (as most guys do), but it's real thin and a problem often. Sometimes, if I'm having troubles, I'll unscrew the cart after a session and set it on a patch or paper towel in case it leaks. This keeps the oil out of the vape and charger which is very important. Keep it clean down there, never screw a cart with oil on it into the charger, it's known to stick to the center pin and pull it out.

Good luck, it can be beat. Play with it some. And like I said folks have explained this a lot on this thread so there's lots of good information on the topic. I'm sure a search on 'leaking' will amuse you for some time?

OF
 
OF,
It's repetitive, we've been through it dozens of times (literally) on this thread. You'll no doubt find better, more complete advice by researching some but here's a few high points.

BTW, I'm the 'needle in ISO' guy from a day or so back.

Thin oils are harder to deal with than thick. Consider this when selecting loads. Being sure it's dead cold before setting it down helps, keep pulling cold air thorough it until then. Oil along the flue tends to flow down to make the plug (the less common one is below where yours is). Use the needle or wire to remove as much as you can (wipe it off between trips in). If you can get most of it out it probably will be OK next time. After you wipe as much out as the wire or needle will collect (I use the eye of the needle to collect oil) consider the paper towel trick. Cut a 1/4 inch wide (or so) strip from dual ply towel maybe two inches long. Fold it in half lengthwise and twist it into a skinny 'rope'. Thread this up the hole (use one ply only for the smaller bottom hole), twisting as you go, to sop up the oil and pull it out. Consider setting it on it's side for a while (remember the oil might try to drain out).

I like PG (as most guys do), but it's real thin and a problem often. Sometimes, if I'm having troubles, I'll unscrew the cart after a session and set it on a patch or paper towel in case it leaks. This keeps the oil out of the vape and charger which is very important. Keep it clean down there, never screw a cart with oil on it into the charger, it's known to stick to the center pin and pull it out.

Good luck, it can be beat. Play with it some. And like I said folks have explained this a lot on this thread so there's lots of good information on the topic. I'm sure a search on 'leaking' will amuse you for some time?

OF

The hints and tricks you said explained a lot and helped a lot I appreciate it
 
PointBlank,

OF

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The hints and tricks you said explained a lot and helped a lot I appreciate it

You're very welcome. Again, not to belabor it, it's just a quick list. At most a good starting point....hopefully in a useful direction.

If you follow the general rules of keeping it clean when you can, watch the heat control when you load (be careful with the lighter....), be sure it's cool when you put it away and never run it dry and hard you should be fine. These are tough little guys if you stay in that area.

OF
 
OF,

Zingbuddah

Vaporologist
I've heard of it, I think you knock 3 times and say "Joe sent me".....

OF

Not quite that shady. In this state there are multiple farmer markets every weekend. They have been going on for about two years now in public with hardly any issues.

Unfortunately this time my favorite vendor was not present so no pre-filled carts for me. I can report success with good quality purged BHO and a pre-oxidized cart per the instructions. The horrible taste is not present and the cartridge is producing great clouds.

Thanks for the help!

-Z
 

Dallas.

Member
Alright, so, my problem isn't solved at all. This thing literally EATS up anything that is put into it. That 0.75 g's I put in it yesterday? GONE. That's right, GONE.

Needless to say, I'm fucking pissed with the amount of money that I've spent on this thing that I don't want a new cartridge at all. I've spent about $150 on oils now, THAT'S 15 FUCKING CARTS. Given my experience and others that I've read, this thing is definitely still a work in progress.

Not to mention the so called "white-caps" that were supposed to come with the product wasn't there at all.
 
Dallas.,

JoeKickass

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Alright, so, my problem isn't solved at all. This thing literally EATS up anything that is put into it. That 0.75 g's I put in it yesterday? GONE. That's right, GONE.

Needless to say, I'm fucking pissed with the amount of money that I've spent on this thing that I don't want a new cartridge at all. Given my experience and others that I've read, this thing is definitely still a work in progress.

Not to mention the so called "white-caps" that were supposed to come with the product wasn't there at all.

No one uses the white caps, unless you are traveling with a bunch of carts that are going to get hot and liquefy you won't miss them.

But the way this thing works means that the 0.75g either went in your lungs or leaked. Did it leak? Are you using puregold?
 
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Gone? You weighed it? Or just no vapor? It can only go so 3 places... Bottom/top/lungs. Ipods are still work in progress too, but that doesnt mean they don't work better than a walkman.
 
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Dallas.

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Well, the first time this happened it was with 1/2 g of PG. Like I said before, it only lasted about 25 hits. I tried to reclaim the PG, but nothing came out. Weighing it on a scale gave a weight of 7.9 grams (I'm aware that other carts can weight less). Also, I didn't have any leaking issues with the PG. None of it leaked, at all.

Now, I put in 0.75 grams of budder and the same thing happened, but some of it leaked and clogged the cart (which I fixed), but that doesn't appear to be primary problem.
 
Dallas.,

Dallas.

Member
My iPod sure as hell functions better than this thing.

I'm aware there's no such thing as a perfect product, but there appears to be a significant amount of people experiencing problems with this device, leaking issues in particular.
 
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