Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

[JoeKickass]

This is a rebranded Joye eGo, is it not?

Joye eGo

Also the "Persei" is a rebranded Silver Bullet right?

Silver Bullet

Just curious, seems like the same devices at a serious markup.

Lol,

I love how this guy comes into an omicron specific thread, talks like the chinese knockoff came up with it first, and then says his names are better.

Enjoy your cheap crap.

mod note: The ecig was invented by Ruyan Group Holdings Limited, in Hong Kong, so all delivery systems of this type are based on a 'made in China' design. And your wisecrack is skating near the line, as far as the Be nice rule goes.

 

[OF]

Guys you remember thats good.

Now reasons why i dont smoke bho is because of the waxes in it, That covers your bronchial sacks and to me thats not good.

Ill smoke Gold, but to be honest i have stopped smoking all together in the past year. Now i just test things.

I need to quit cigarettes but thats proving harder then i thought.

That's what I recall your saying very early on in the thread, that you were concerned about wax and were going to check into it. AFAIK that's all you said? I felt it important for you to state your position rather than quote you in or out of context, thanks for clearing it up.

Good to know it has nothing to do with hidden toxins in the Butane or other solvents.

For sure not vaporizing would be better. I think most are looking at the improvements over combustion and calling it good. And for sure Tobacco is worth avoiding if possible (not always so for some), IMO a bigger threat than combustion of weed. Even 'smokeless tobacco'.

OF

I love how this guy comes into an omicron specific thread, talks like the chinese knockoff came up with it first, and then says his names are better.

Nice of him to take some time from his busy day to help us out, isn't it? Sort of like the guys that seem to pop up form time to time with 'I guess the (very popular) brand vaporizer is OK for some, but for a real man like me (that smokes his body weight in fine bud per year), it's not really enough.....I demand HUGE CLOUDS'.

Fine by me, he should then get a machine that uses a lot of herb and delivers accordingly. But not scare the new guys off what might be just the ticket for them.

To each his own I guess. I wanna be happy with what I buy and use (for my needs and desires), and think he (or she) should have the same.

OF
mod note: Either report a post, ignore it, or keep to the topic instead of making derogatory personal comments.

 

[ru_frothi]

You need to either fill the cart the rest of the way with very warm oil or melt what you have down. The latter is dangerous, heat it more than 'almost too hot to hold' and you'll wreck the seals and destroy the cart, loosing oil.

so how long on average can you hold a lighter/heatsource to the cart without damage? It seems like I would need to heat the cart "too hot to hold" if I'm going to get the wax/budder hot enough to melt to the bottom of cart. I will certainly be careful and try to heat a cart slowly but seems difficult to know how much is enough.

And no, from what I hear the plant cart needs several times the power of the current oil cart. You need the new (higher voltage) battery. While the nail unit is further out, I'm pretty sure it too will need more steam to work well.
OF

Any word if there is a higher voltage battery unit replacement planned that will work with Omicron? Hope so or my unit will soon seem obsolete, or incomplete.

Now reasons why i dont smoke bho is because of the waxes in it, That covers your bronchial sacks and to me thats not good.

Ill smoke Gold, but to be honest i have stopped smoking all together in the past year. Now i just test things.

Is is true most wax/budders are bho? Are you saying you don't even vape those? Seems like our options are slim minus bho.

Gold seems to work really well and easy enough to manage but at $80gr it's pretty darn steep.

Hold the cart in your finger at the bottom 1/3. Heat the upper 1/3 with a lighter. If you fingers holding the cart start to get hot then your done. Its a very easy process and not dangerous like some folks imply, IMO. DubC and G both recommend this technique. I can attest it works great and I have not broken any seals on the dozen carts I have done this on.

One thing to consider for the doubters. try it yourself. The temp the lower part of the cart gets from vaping with the unit is much much hotter than the amount of heat in the lower part of the cart you get from using the lighter to melt down the concentrate. Don't trust or believe me but try it for yourself and you be the judge.

best of luck

 

[OF]

Hold the cart in your finger at the bottom 1/3. Heat the upper 1/3 with a lighter. If you fingers holding the cart start to get hot then your done. Its a very easy process and not dangerous like some folks imply, IMO. DubC and G both recommend this technique. I can attest it works great and I have not broken any seals on the dozen carts I have done this on.

I agree with this, and have done it several times to a couple of carts with concentrate that didn't work all that well. I too haven't wrecked one yet, at least that way, but having hacked a couple and seen the seals (several of them actually) I'm sure it's quite possible. I bet I can do it with a dry cart and charged battery alone.....with your cart of course.

The key to understanding it is stainless steel is a lousy conductor of heat. A thin tube like this is a very poor way to transfer heat down. Concentrate on the inside is going to wick that heat away until it's melted, then the heat can once again work it's way down. This means it can 'get away from you' if you put a lot of heat on too fast and stuff shifts inside. It also mean you should roll the cart as you heat it, heat it from all sides at once.

Just understand if you convert a 'poor vaper' into a 'nasty leaker' I don't know you......

OF

 

[reverser]

This is a rebranded Joye eGo, is it not?

Joye eGo

Also the "Persei" is a rebranded Silver Bullet right?

Silver Bullet

Just curious, seems like the same devices at a serious markup.

Lol,

I love how this guy comes into an omicron specific thread, talks like the chinese knockoff came up with it first, and then says his names are better.

Enjoy your cheap crap.

Are you perhaps mentally unable to understand the present date / time system? Do some research before you spout off your hippie-babble. When did hippies decide they needed access to electricity anyway?

That "Chinese knockoff" was developed as an ecig and was for sale well before you "ingenious" American's ripped off the technology for a device, then re-branded and sold to braindead stoner hippies for 4x the price. The Joye is not a knockoff, they developed this design which has been knocked off hundreds of times, as is the case here. Have fun with your eGo - Super Charged Price Edition.

Hippies never cease to amaze me. Both in their lack of general intelligence and inability to find the soap.

To the maker: Pure marketing genius!


mod note: The rules are clear on what we won't tolerate, as far as behavior, and your post is a good example.

 

[OF]

Are you perhaps mentally unable to understand the present date / time system? Do some research before you spout off your hippie-babble. When did hippies decide they needed access to electricity anyway?

That "Chinese knockoff" was developed as an ecig and was for sale well before you "ingenious" American's ripped off the technology for a device, then re-branded and sold to braindead stoner hippies for 4x the price. The Joye is not a knockoff, they developed this design which has been knocked off hundreds of times, as is the case here. Have fun with your eGo - Super Charged Price Edition.

Hippies never cease to amaze me. Both in their lack of general intelligence and inability to find the soap.

To the maker: Pure marketing genius!

First off, as a hippie I take offense at that bigoted crap. Want to hear me start up with some offensive stuff back? Didn't think so, so why do you do it to me?

Secondly, please don't presume to lecture me about capitalism and marketing prowess. Let's remember who's who in the discussion? The 'fair price' is what the buyer and seller say it is. If you think it's too high (and can back that up), join in the great capitalist game and put your money where your mouth is. Make a huge pile because you really are smarter than us dumb hippies? That's the way it really works.

Thirdly, you're all wet WRT to the Omicron. The magic is not the battery or threads on it, but the cart which is unique. Noting like it from China, not even illegitimate copies.

Rant over. Please feel free to explain how us hippies have it all wrong again, I think I got lost on the first pass.

OF

 

[reverser]

Are you perhaps mentally unable to understand the present date / time system? Do some research before you spout off your hippie-babble. When did hippies decide they needed access to electricity anyway?

That "Chinese knockoff" was developed as an ecig and was for sale well before you "ingenious" American's ripped off the technology for a device, then re-branded and sold to braindead stoner hippies for 4x the price. The Joye is not a knockoff, they developed this design which has been knocked off hundreds of times, as is the case here. Have fun with your eGo - Super Charged Price Edition.

Hippies never cease to amaze me. Both in their lack of general intelligence and inability to find the soap.

To the maker: Pure marketing genius!

First off, as a hippie I take offense at that bigoted crap. Want to hear me start up with some offensive stuff back? Didn't think so, so why do you do it to me?

Secondly, please don't presume to lecture me about capitalism and marketing prowess. Let's remember who's who in the discussion? The 'fair price' is what the buyer and seller say it is. If you think it's too high (and can back that up), join in the great capitalist game and put your money where your mouth is. Make a huge pile because you really are smarter than us dumb hippies? That's the way it really works.

Thirdly, you're all wet WRT to the Omicron. The magic is not the battery or threads on it, but the cart which is unique. Noting like it from China, not even illegitimate copies.

Rant over. Please feel free to explain how us hippies have it all wrong again, I think I got lost on the first pass.

OF

Sure, here's how you have it wrong:

I came in and asked a simple question. I was then attacked by you and another member for no good reason.

I don't know why wanting to understand technologies was out of line, but seemingly I hit a nerve, when the question was a simple attempt to gain knowledge about the products being offered.

Yes / No, followed by "Here's what differs..." would have been appropriate. An attack on the questions with a baseless argument about how I loved and wanted Chinese knockoffs was where you "got lost on the first pass."

 

[OF]

Sure, here's how you have it wrong:

I came in and asked a simple question. I was then attacked by you and another member for no good reason.

I don't know why wanting to understand technologies was out of line, but seemingly I hit a nerve, when the question was a simple attempt to gain knowledge about the products being offered.

Yes / No, followed by "Here's what differs..." would have been appropriate. An attack on the questions with a baseless argument about how I loved and wanted Chinese knockoffs was where you "got lost on the first pass."

OK, I did say 'it's nice he took some time...' but I hope folks see that as tongue in cheek for the obvious 'chip on your shoulder' attitude (I assume you know what that means? Being confrontational). IMO it came way short of an attack. For an example of an attack, check your last post. I was not alone in that perception, nor are you the first to cry 'overpriced junk you're stupid enough to buy'.

You then went into a rant on hippies without anything to support it. Nasty stuff, stuff you'd never think of saying to someones face rather than hiding behind a computer and a made up name. Then came a lecture on how capitalism works from a guy that couldn't possibly have grown up in such a system.

So that's how I see it. It was not "a simple attempt to gain knowledge about the products being offered" rather a set up for us stupid hippies that don't understand.

You were not attacked, what you did was. And IMO not without reason. The hateful attack stuff came East to West, not the other way about as I see it.

Like I said, would you like me to fire some racist crap back at you? Of course not. Neither do I (or I think any of the others here about). That's not productive.

I'm sorry if I misread your intent, but I seriously doubt that.

All that aside, did you get your original question answered? No, it's a similar product, probably made in China (not really sure) but it does have some differences the Omicron guys think important. Including the threads. But like the Japanese, we Yanks prize more that just low cost sometimes. We value the service and support of Omicron and the way they do business by taking the risk (spending the money) to develop new stuff for us. Many will pay more for that. If you'd looked into it a bit more you'd have found out about Atmos (a made in China 'clone' that has the right threads and uses the Omicron carts that's also sold here). There's a very short thread (relative to this one here), you'll find others on other forums if you look, also not so popular.

That's the way it works here, or at least as I see it. Being able to do the job at the lowest price isn't always the answer, and in this case not being able to do the job we want (use it with Omicron carts.....the theme of the thread) is a deal breaker no matter what the cost.

OF

 

[Oilhead420]

A couple of things, all of these pen vaporizers are knock off e cigs. There may be minimal changes that companies like THC Scientific may tweak with the battery, but it's pretty much just from China and renamed from a Joye battery. That person who said that stuff seemed pretty ignorant, but has a good point. I too though of the silver bullet when first seeing the Persei, and what about the double barrel attachment for the silver bullet? See any similarities? The threading isn't for a specific reason except for money, the threading is pissing a lot of people off who already have more expensive e cigs and see this renamed Joye. The cartridges is where the innovation is, I think if cartridges were open to different threading, more people could enjoy using the omicron without feeling bad about buying an expensive electronic cigarette when they already have one.

 

[OF]

The threading isn't for a specific reason except for money, the threading is pissing a lot of people off who already have more expensive e cigs and see this renamed Joye. The cartridges is where the innovation is, I think if cartridges were open to different threading, more people could enjoy using the omicron without feeling bad about buying an expensive electronic cigarette when they already have one.

Actually I think you're wrong WRT to the reason. THC was, I think, trying to support those guys who had their prior model which uses the .75 pitch thread. True, the original model may have used the oddball thread for propitiatory reasons, but the current model is to support their existing customers. I kinda like that attitude.

If you read back in this thread you'll find THC explaining why he doesn't sell his carts with 'their threads'. It's about loss of control with use. Too many high voltage e cig rigs out there and too many hop heads who would be hitting them with higher voltage. At least that's what I recall. He could be wrong about that last part, of course....there could even be honest politicians out there somewhere?

Bottom line is the units are really pretty cheap IMO. $120 from the Canadian dealer for two pens, charger, case and a blank to get you started. Shipping included. Makes 'em about forty each. Given each is going to 'burn' lots of ten dollar carts and even more $40 or more dollar grams I see it as cheap enough. Then again I'm not sitting on a big bucks battery.

OF

 

[408_Grow]

Soooo..that's enough of that..All my folks in the bay, what are you enjoyingin your Omi and where's it coming from?

 

[408_Grow]

Edit:fail

 

[kertong]

It surprises me that people who have no problem paying $50 for a *gram* of good budder that lasts them a day or two, is having so much trouble with the measly $150 price of the *double* kit. Every penny I spent on this kit has been more than worth the investment and the returns I'm realizing in terms of consumption economy, time saved, portability, make it an EASY win in terms of price/value. Are there better valued/priced solutions? Maybe, but it doesn't change the fact that this omicron is the perfect portable daily driver for me. Sure, for less than $40 you can get a portable butane torch, a paper cup, and a gram vial of hash oil and have a portable dab station wherever you go, but personally, I'll pay the premium to enjoy the omicron's all in one ease of use solution.

408_Grow: Elemental just got their $35/g sour diesel co2 earwax back in, and it's great! Nice and melty, hits well, and the price is right!

 

[408_Grow]

^i can digg it

 

[Guest]

i asked this already but it may have gone unnoticed

if i buy an omicron today, will the upcoming flower carts fit my omicron? or will i need to buy a new omicron or other delta9 product?

 

[408_Grow]

Rasta:I believe the flower cart will only work for the persei but i'm not sure.I haven't been on here much lately.

 

[funkin]

i asked this already but it may have gone unnoticed

if i buy an omicron today, will the upcoming flower carts fit my omicron? or will i need to buy a new omicron or other delta9 product?

It sounds like the flower cart requires more battery power. I think THC said he could maybe make it happen on models other than Persei, but it'd drain the battery so quickly that it may not be worth the effort.

If I wasn't lazy I'd look for his actual quotes, hopefully I got the idea right though lol.

 

[Darb]

Does anybody know of dispensarys in Canada that carry concentrates?
I can only find one and they want $80/g!!!

 

[kertong]

I finally got around to taking a picture of the scotch tape labels I mentioned, it's a very simple idea but it's helped me immensely.

 

[Adobewan]

Cool Kertong.
I do the same, but on the mouthpiece so I can read them in the jar and heating the cart isn't an issue.
But I store mine with the mouthpieces on and throw the white caps out.

 

[Vitolo]

Ahhh... finally
If you all recall, I had lost a straight pin down in my "next to last" cartridge... and had dismantled my cartridge in order to send THC Scientific the pin to advance science.
That left me with one cart empty.
I was reluctant to use my last cart, until my new pack of 5 carts which is en route from THC Scientific arrives!
An angel of mercy saw to it that I was the recipient of two capsules of the Pure Gold I have been reading about and drooling over!!
I wanted to film the filling of the cart, but it happened so fast and easily.. it was as if the Pure Gold cap.. did it all by itself!

Touch to view~
*Note
When I say I ate the Pure Gold Cap.. I meant that I ate it once it was pretty well squeezed!

 

[jcmjrt]

I just received the Omicron double pen and a set of cartridges. Reading on here, I thought that Harborside in Oakland carried Pure Gold but I just got back from there and they acted like they had absolutely no idea what I was talking about and didn't seem to know what an omicron pen was. Since I've heard about Elemental Wellness so much, I thought that I would give that a try, however, they won't answer any kind of question about what they carry and I hate to drive there for nothing. I'd prefer to be able to stay in the Oakland area...is there somewhere carrying Pure Gold here? If not, does anyone know if Elemental Wellness is currently carrying Pure Gold. I know that other things MAY work but it seems that Pure Gold is not only pretty simple (I want easy for the first time) but it's also fractionally distilled and I don't have to worry too much about contaminants.

 

[ilovebOObs]

Some clubs have websites that will list what they have on the menu.
Here is an example from cannaculture.
http://www.cannaculturecollective.com/home/current-menu

 

[OF]

I just received the Omicron double pen and a set of cartridges. Reading on here, I thought that Harborside in Oakland carried Pure Gold but

Harborside Oakland hasn't had it in the last six months at least. Elemental has it sometimes (I've bought it there), but not currently (they only have the PG spray):
http://elementalwellnesscenter.com/Menu/StrainMenu.html#Concentrates

However, Harborside SJ has it listed:
https://www.stickyguide.com/dispens...er-san-jose/products/thc-gold-squeeze-tube--3

This stuff changes quickly, I'd get there early. IMO it's worth it. PG is a great 'first time' fill.

OF

 

[jcmjrt]

Thanks Ilove and OF. I'll do a little on line looking but may have to drive to San Jose. Here I thought Oakland was supposed to be at the heart of the med marijuana trade but it seems that it's being outstripped by the city to the south.