Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

ashes26

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Get a scale and weigh the cart before and then after filling. You can then determine exactly how much oil is left in the cart whenever you reweigh it.

Also not every empty cart weighs the same. Just FYI.
I will break out my little scale.. Thanks for the tip :-)
 
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ashes26

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Agreed. Kiss for solid/stable meds and the standard Omicron carts for runny stuff (Pure Gold, CO2 oil, etc).
I put a non-runny, more sticky but not fully hard wax in my standard cart w the fill tool and it's been working great! But not sure if I'll lose a lot to the cart when it's done.. Should I have just used the kiss cart for this?
 
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Silvercloud538

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The trick is to dial in all variables for proper ignition [ batt strength ,balance of product in cart

,method of pull ( slow/firm) ,contact clean ] ~ once variables are in tune ,one should experience

dense ,thick clouds ,esp w/ 1.5 ohm ,on every pull ~ eventually ,wick will overcake & need special

attention ,which simply involves emptying reclaim for later refill in same cart after cart

resumes / loses clouding ( cart will function normally for awhile after emptying said cart ) ~

IOW ,in order to free up cart's caked wick ,first step empty ,2nd step resume vaping for awhile 'til

dried out ,just about completely ,then refill
 
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ataxian

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The trick is to balance all variables for proper ignition [ batt strength ,balance of product in cart

,method of pull ( slow/firm) ,contact clean ] ~ once variables are in tune ,one should experience

dense ,thick clouds ,esp w/ 1.5 ohm ,on every pull ~ eventually ,wick will overcake & need special

attention ,which simply involves emptying reclaim for later refill in same cart after cart

resumes / loses clouding ( cart will function normally for awhile after emptying said cart ) ~

IOW ,in order to free up cart's caked wick ,first step empty ,2nd step resume vaping for awhile 'til

dried out ,just about completely ,then refill
I use the 2.4 ohm carts.
Never had a problem.
I have the 5.0's and the 2.4's dialed.
To learn the others will be challenging!
I try with the 1.5 ohm and I will follow your instructions.
 
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Silvercloud538

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I use the 2.4 ohm carts.
Never had a problem.
I have the 5.0's and the 2.4's dialed.
To learn the others will be challenging!
I try with the 1.5 ohm and I will follow your instructions.


Just be sure not to over-ride ,these babes can warm up rather qwikly ~ But ,they do get 'right to'

the 'point' effortlessly ~ have found by pulling @ the end of an 8-10 qwik count ,verry firmly ,but

slow ,will extract the quality of cloud which satisfies
 
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Zee007

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Just purchased an omicron, this will be the first vape I've ever purchased. Been a part of this site for a while now looking for the perfect one and I think this is it! :smug:
 

ataxian

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Just got my KISS cart today. Hit too harsh.


Fixed.
That was way cool!

I have a RED K.I.S.S. Cart.
Also I have a bunch of BLACK Stuff!
Looks like I need a BLACK one?

In the meantime I'm going to use my RED one with the PNWT and cut a OMICRON Tip for the seal.

Turn on the black light posters!

Looks like I need to break out my video camera?

Nice job Caligua!
 
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Caligula

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That was way cool!

I have a RED K.I.S.S. Cart.
Also I have a bunch of BLACK Stuff!
Looks like I need a BLACK one?

In the meantime I'm going to use my RED one with the PNWT and cut a OMICRON Tip for the seal.

Turn on the black light posters!

Looks like I need to break out my video camera?

Nice job Caligua!

Why thank you kind sir! I literally had the cart in my possession for 10 minutes before I stated modifying it. LOL par for me.
 
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ataxian

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Why thank you kind sir! I literally had the cart in my possession for 10 minutes before I stated modifying it. LOL par for me.
I keep loading TRIPLE PURGED NORTHERN LIGHTS SHATTER (made from TOP COLAS) in the K.I.S.S. cart.
3 grams already?
I guess I will keep using it until it dies?
The only problem is this CART over medicates if your not careful.
I keep telling myself just one more!
That was a gram back?
 

Caligula

Maximus
That was a gram back?

In my video? The amount inside the slick ball container is ~ 1g before I took out what I did. In fact I took out too much and you can see I broke off some and put it back before loading. It SO stable I had a gard time getting it to stick to the coil. Id just fall off like a rock. Heh.

Do you ever clean your KISS cart? How much d0 you load at once?
 

poonman

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You guys are killing me with the kiss cart chatter .
I'm just waiting for PV to get them in stock .
in fact , I'm kinda holding off on ordering more stuff from PV
until they have the kiss carts .
 
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Caligula

Maximus
You guys are killing me with the kiss cart chatter .
I'm just waiting for PV to get them in stock .
in fact , I'm kinda holding off on ordering more stuff from PV
until they have the kiss carts .

Ordered mine on Thursday from VaporWarehouse. Got here today. Free shipping. Not sure if its to the US or all of N America tho. Might check? I woulda ordered from UP Tech, but they kill me with their separate shipping and then handling charges on small stuff like this. Suppose I could have ordered it with my SS kit, but the KISS cart was more of an afterthought.
 

ataxian

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In my video? The amount inside the slick ball container is ~ 1g before I took out what I did. In fact I took out too much and you can see I broke off some and put it back before loading. It SO stable I had a gard time getting it to stick to the coil. Id just fall off like a rock. Heh.

Do you ever clean your KISS cart? How much d0 you load at once?
The K.I.S.S. Cart is way cool I think because it's so cheap and loves my dabs.
I'm a light weight!
I only load 0.10 gram at a time.
However I'm getting a lot of rips per load even?

Like I said for such a cheap device it sure is useful!

I have used it on both the OMICRON and the PERSEI SHORTY.

Your way more of a heavy weight than I am.

You are in need of some BLACK LIGHT posters!
A man cave needs them!
 
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gnjagrwr

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First time loading my kiss cart..overdid it! But still ripped 2 dank hits before most melted downward, so literally, load as u go. One lil speck of crumble right on top of the coil and 2 dank rips again, this time no melted puddle underneath! So i'll revise my previous rating of a 3 to 4.5 out of 5. Now im wondering why not lower the coils to be more flush with the concentrate and also angle the sides inward towards the coil? Somewhat like a gutter..make any sense?
Also would u say the reg omi carts function best with runnier co2 oils as opposed to wax, shatter? Is leakage an issue at all with oils specifically on the battery? And apptoximately how many refills per 2.4 cart using only clean amber oil?
 
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air_zonk

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First time loading my kiss cart..overdid it! But still ripped 2 dank hits before most melted downward, so literally, load as u go. One lil speck of crumble right on top of the coil and 2 dank rips again, this time no melted puddle underneath! So i'll revise my previous rating of a 3 to 4.5 out of 5. Now im wondering why not lower the coils to be more flush with the concentrate and also angle the sides inward towards the coil? Somewhat like a gutter..make any sense?
Also would u say the reg omi carts function best with runnier co2 oils as opposed to wax, shatter? Is leakage an issue at all with oils specifically on the battery? And apptoximately how many refills per 2.4 cart using only clean amber oil?
Trust Me. I Have Been Using The Kiss Cart For A Few Days Now And Even If I Get A Bunch Of Wax Melted Down Underneath The Wick You Can Definitely Smoke The Kiss Cart Dry. I Had A Big Puddle Of Oil Under The Wick And What I Did Was You Just Have To Get Used To How Kiss Works And Making Sure You Have Proper Airflow In The Mouthpiece Make Sure It Is Not Blocked. It Is All About Getting To One Temperature And Staying There Know What I Mean? As Long As You Do That And Make Sure There Is Good Airflow Thru The Mouthpiece You Can Smoke It Dry. I Have Gotten One Fat Dab To Last Me About 45 Minutes Of Straight Hitting It And Getting Clouds
 

gnjagrwr

Member
How do i make sure airflow is good? And when u have that slight puddle under the coils, do u hit it upright or horizontal? I know theres a learning curve..just wondering if anyone else has suggestions.
 
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CanadianColorado

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In my video? The amount inside the slick ball container is ~ 1g before I took out what I did. In fact I took out too much and you can see I broke off some and put it back before loading. It SO stable I had a gard time getting it to stick to the coil. Id just fall off like a rock. Heh.

Do you ever clean your KISS cart? How much d0 you load at once?

I took on the undertaking of cleaning the K.I.S.S. cart yesterday. After running 4 grams of mixed concentrates through the beast I started to notice a little resistance in airflow. I hoped on FC so see if there were any suggestions for cleaning. There are a few photos of the K.I.S.S. being dismantled into three distinct pieces (the base only, not the mouth tip/barrel). There is the rod with the wire wrapped around it, there is the white ceramic piece that is actually removable to reveal the third piece, essentially the casing for the ceramic and the connection for the wiring.

I made the mistake of trying to pull out the rod and wiring first (i would recommend non-metallic pliers, I actually used chopsticks) After pulling out about a half inch i began to feel resistance in one of the wires while the other was free to slide out. I gave a (what I believe to be slight) pull on the wire and it was able to disconnect from the base. After removing the white ceramic bowl I realized that I had snapped the wire that was attached to the baseplate and as a result I would no longer have a connection and the cart would be ruined!!!! :bang::bang::bang::bang:

I can't say for certain as I have not tried it with K.I.S.S. cart straight from he factory, But if you ever need to clean the entirety of the cart then I would strongly suggest that you take the white ceramic bowl out WITH the rod still attached. At least this way your wiring wont get caught and you minimize the risk of cutting your wire.

I gave all the pieces an ISO bath after dismantling the cart. Looked as good as new five minutes later, except for the shortened wire on the coil. I took the rod and decided to unwrap one of the coils to replace the section I had broke. Fortunately there is enough wire exposed now that I can make the connection at the bottom and the cart still work. BTW, any chance you sell the rod/wire separately? Thinking about it, at $20 it might be more sensible to just buy a new one. Also, what's production and distribution of the Ti wire/rod combo? I'm really looking forward to that one.

First time loading my kiss cart..overdid it! But still ripped 2 dank hits before most melted downward, so literally, load as u go. One lil speck of crumble right on top of the coil and 2 dank rips again, this time no melted puddle underneath! So i'll revise my previous rating of a 3 to 4.5 out of 5. Now im wondering why not lower the coils to be more flush with the concentrate and also angle the sides inward towards the coil? Somewhat like a gutter..make any sense?
Also would u say the reg omi carts function best with runnier co2 oils as opposed to wax, shatter? Is leakage an issue at all with oils specifically on the battery? And apptoximately how many refills per 2.4 cart using only clean amber oil?

I've been wondering the same thing as far as placement of the heating element relative to the collection of oils. A guttered design does seem logical if you can relocate the air intake and the ports for the wiring to connect to the base.

I have used numerous consistencies of BHO wax through the carts, but I have to say for both convenience and cloud production the CO2 oils are the way to go. Just be careful not to hit it in to rapid succession or the oils will start to run on you, though in my experience it's never been severe or noticeable until after I remove the cartridge. It always seems to collect at the base of the cartridge, I believe a design feature, and I have yet to see any oil hit the battery, though I have heard of this occurring in the past to others.

The refilling thing is based on a couple of factors. The more you add to a cart, the greater the risk of having it burn out simply from usage. I believe their advertise 400+ hits per cartridge. If you find that you take 200 puffs per gram then the cart SHOULD be guaranteed to work for at least 2 grams. With that said, there is the distinct possibility that the cart could go for 1000 hits, in which case you could run 5 g. through it.

I'm not advocating refilling more then twice. I find after the third gram is when I run into the most issues with vapor production and reliability. Also, oils have a tendency to restrict the airway, making it difficult to draw on. After running a couple of grams there is enough residual buildup, no matter how refined your product is, to justify using a new cartridge. I'm sort of a flavor snob as well. I have a tendency to purchase two or three grams of a particular oil and dedicate that cartridge to it. Though I've also had amazing flavor combinations when mixing waxes so don't be afraid to mix and match either.
 
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air_zonk

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Hi Guys I Had An Experience With My Kiss Cart Today I Wish I Could Learn How To Avoid It In The Future?

My Mouthpiece Is All Clogged And I Cant Get It Unclogged! Before I Could Get Enough Heat By Holding The Button And Waiting For It To Pop And Airflow To Start, But Today I Could Not Get It Undone Like This. I Could Not Pull Through The Mouthpiece And Wasted A Dab (Was Able To Inhale Some Of It) Trying To Get It Unclogged.

I Did The Paperclip Suggestion But I Ended Up Only Pulling Out The Top 2 Parts Of The Mouthpiece? I Couldn't See Or Feel Out Where Any Of The Other Air Passages Were?

Please If Anyone Has A Tip To Help Me I Would Really Appreciate It. I Hate To Not Be Able To Hit It With The Mouthpiece On But Dont Want To Be Stuck In This Position Again.
 
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dub-ray

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To clean the unit all you have to do is drop the whole unit in ISO. You don't need to take anything apart.

You can do this with the KISS cart?? or am i out of my element


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Hi Guys I Had An Experience With My Kiss Cart Today I Wish I Could Learn How To Avoid It In The Future?

My Mouthpiece Is All Clogged And I Cant Get It Unclogged! Before I Could Get Enough Heat By Holding The Button And Waiting For It To Pop And Airflow To Start, But Today I Could Not Get It Undone Like This. I Could Not Pull Through The Mouthpiece And Wasted A Dab (Was Able To Inhale Some Of It) Trying To Get It Unclogged.

I Did The Paperclip Suggestion But I Ended Up Only Pulling Out The Top 2 Parts Of The Mouthpiece? I Couldn't See Or Feel Out Where Any Of The Other Air Passages Were?

Please If Anyone Has A Tip To Help Me I Would Really Appreciate It. I Hate To Not Be Able To Hit It With The Mouthpiece On But Dont Want To Be Stuck In This Position Again.

I think soaking it in ISO would work for this, i am experiencing this as well, and will most likely soak it
 
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