Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
dmt is a gnarly drug haha and I've seen people blackout from holding in hits too long from lack of oxygen. whats funny about braincells is we kill them but they grow back due to anti-oxidant activity in cannabinoids :)
yea, it's actually in every living thing as well as produced by your brain. there is a great book called DMT, The Spirit Molecule that i suggest serious explorers check out. great info from back when they were able to do "clinical" trials with such things. i want to stress that i am not suggesting anyone take this drug, only noting that a lack of oxygen produces this drug within our brains and that it mixes with the thc.
 
Bob Loblaw,

OF

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All THC and related cannabinoids are absorbed by the lung tissue within 1 or 2 seconds no matter whether it is smoke or vapor.

You wouldn't happen to have a reference on that would you? I've heard all sorts of numbers, most lower than 'all' and longer in time. It'd be good to know for sure.

TIA

OF
 

max

Out to lunch
All THC and related cannabinoids are absorbed by the lung tissue within 1 or 2 seconds no matter whether it is smoke or vapor.
The lungs would have to act as an extremely strong cannabinoid magnet, to absorb all actives in that short a period of time. And since 2nd hand smoke and vapor absolutely DO get people high, your statement is incorrect and not what we'd like to see posted here. It's opinion posted as fact, and in fact, against the rules.
 
The lungs would have to act as an extremely strong cannabinoid magnet, to absorb all actives in that short a period of time. And since 2nd hand smoke and vapor absolutely DO get people high, your statement is incorrect and not what we'd like to see posted here. It's opinion posted as fact, and in fact, against the rules.
As a former Pulmonary Specialist, I can attest that it is indeed a fact.

2nd hand smoke and vapors will only get get you high if they haven't already been in someone's lungs. Tars and toxins will transfer in 2nd hand smoke, but not cannabinoids.
 
Agent S.S. Sands,
Pharmacodynamics of DMT

DMT binds non-selectively with affinities < 0.6 μM to the following serotonin receptors: 5-HT1A, 5-HT1B, 5-HT1D, 5-HT2A, 5-HT2B, 5-HT2C, 5-HT6, and 5-HT7. An agonist action has been determined at 5-HT1A, 5-HT2A and 5-HT2C. Its efficacies at other serotonin receptors remain to be determined. Of special interest will be the determination of its efficacy at human 5-HT2B receptor as two in vitro assays evidenced DMT high affinity for this receptor: 0.108 μMand 0.184 μM. This may be of importance because chronic or frequent uses of serotonergic drugs showing preferential high affinity and clear agonism at 5-HT2B receptor have been causally linked to valvular heart disease.
It has also been shown to possess affinity for the dopamine D1, α1-adrenergic, α2-adrenergic, imidazoline-1, sigma-1 (σ1), and trace amine-associated receptors. Agonism was demonstrated at 1 μM at the rat trace amine-associated receptor 1 (TAAR1) and converging lines of evidence established activation of the σ1 receptor at concentrations of 50–100 μM. Its efficacies at the other receptor binding sites are unclear. It has also been shown in vitro to be a substrate for the cell-surface serotonin transporter (SERT) and the intracellular vesicular monoamine transporter 2 (VMAT2), inhibiting SERT-mediated serotonin uptake in human platelets at an average concentration of 4.00 ± 0.70 μM and VMAT2-mediated serotonin uptake in vesicles (of army worm Sf9 cells) expressing rat VMAT-2 at an average concentration of 93 ± 6.8 μM.
As with other so-called "classical hallucinogens",a large part of DMT psychedelic effects can be attributed to a specific activation of the 5-HT2A receptor. DMT concentrations eliciting 50% of its maximal effect (half maximal effective concentration = EC50 or Kact) at the human 5-HT2A receptor in vitro are in the 0.118–0.983 μM range. This range of values coincides well with the range of concentrations measured in blood and plasma after administration of a fully psychedelic dose (see Pharmacokinetics).
As DMT has been shown to have slightly better efficacy (EC50) at human serotonin 2C receptor than at 2A receptor, 5-HT2C highly likely also is implicated in DMT overall effects. Other receptors, such as 5-HT1A σ1, and TAAR1 may also play a role.

Lack of oxygen will NOT produce DMT in the brain nor will it activate any present DMT.

Can we get back to talking about Omicrons now?
 
Agent S.S. Sands,

OF

Well-Known Member
As a former Pulmonary Specialist, I can attest that it is indeed a fact.

2nd hand smoke and vapors will only get get you high if they haven't already been in someone's lungs. Tars and toxins will transfer in 2nd hand smoke, but not cannabinoids.

Excellent. So you must have a reference for me? Something along the studies NORML's done?

TIA

OF
 
OF,

sgvpunk

Well-Known Member
http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=Ego%2dW-for-3.7v

so this is an ego-w tank. or a "gpen" cartridge by those ripoff artists. it is a glycerin cartridge that threads to your omicron making it look like a normal ecig. then when the people around you are used to the vapor, you switch out for your omi cart. hope that helps!

Besides Making your omicon look like an ecig, how well does it work with oils? Like maybe some pure gold? I think it would be great if they came out with a cover that goes over your normal carts, but makes them look like an ecig
 
sgvpunk,

Jay420

Member
All THC and related cannabinoids are absorbed by the lung tissue within 1 or 2 seconds no matter whether it is smoke or vapor.
I believe with vaporizers you should keep it in until there is no vapor left to exhale, when using a my HVD I don't feel any effects if I can see plenty of visible vapor. On the contrary when I hold it in I get plenty medicated ( this is when I hold the vapor in for about 5+ seconds). Same goes for any hash or waxes, I get much more baked when I hold in a hit for a good 5-10 seconds. My guess is that the absorption rate for other cannabinoids (mostly CBN's in particular,CBDs,etc.) differs from the rate your lungs absorb thc.
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
got home to a small cap waiting in my mailbox today!! (Thanks G!) Put it on the HVD mini tube and it works great! on/off and 5 click on/off both working. Also with the small tube/short cap the tap off feature doesn't seem to work, or at least as far as I tested. I tapped pretty good on the desk, and the light stayed on. I am guessing this is a feature that works with the larger end cap for 7.4v use? Over all, very happy with the mini! I will adjust to the on/off button.
 
jambandphan03,

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
Has anyone tried one of those attachments that make your omicron look like a gpen? How well do they work? Thanks

Yes, I currently use the Ego-W carts that Delta9 offers on their website. I know that they are not actually intended for use with essential oils, but they work great as a load-as-you-go type device. Plus, they're not presoaked in glycerin like the "G-Tanks" that Grenco offers. For me, the Ego-W is a temporary solution until the Nail Cart is finally released. Lord knows that I hope that is soon!
 
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got home to a small cap waiting in my mailbox today!! (Thanks G!) Put it on the HVD mini tube and it works great! on/off and 5 click on/off both working. Also with the small tube/short cap the tap off feature doesn't seem to work, or at least as far as I tested. I tapped pretty good on the desk, and the light stayed on. I am guessing this is a feature that works with the larger end cap for 7.4v use? Over all, very happy with the mini! I will adjust to the on/off button.

The drop safety feature only works when used with the 7.4v and spring cap, when in mini mode this feature is not needed as it cant power a hammer.

Yes, I currently use the Ego-W carts that Delta9 offers on their website. I know that they are not actually intended for use with essential oils, but they works great as a load-as-you-go type device. Plus, they're not presoaked in glycerin like the "G-Tanks" that Grenco offers. For me, the Ego-W is a temporary solution until the Nail Cart is finally released. Lord knows that I hope that is soon!

Its soon brotha, i hope so as well.
 

JoeKickass

Well-Known Member
As a former Pulmonary Specialist, I can attest that it is indeed a fact.

2nd hand smoke and vapors will only get get you high if they haven't already been in someone's lungs. Tars and toxins will transfer in 2nd hand smoke, but not cannabinoids.

Actually I think he was saying the opposite, it's impossible for your lungs to have absorbed all of the thc if you breathe out visible vapor:

...And since 2nd hand smoke and vapor absolutely DO get people high...

I can also attest to that, besides what do you think vapor clouds are made of? I'm pretty sure when you breathe out those really nice vapor clouds you're parting ways with a good amount of thc, but that's the price you pay for the stronger effects...

Good thing thc grows on trees! :D
 

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
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well guys this is all the same from the ecig market to the herbal industry.


Ecig market wants to produce the biggest vapor possible on the exhale, this shows the performance on the device.

Same as the herbal market. Large amounts of vapor on the exhale is what its about.




I tend to think differently but i still give what the crowd likes and thats vapor.


My thoughts are if it works without producing any vapor on the exhale then we have the true vaporizer.
 

VWFringe

Naruto Fan
I know I'm couched whenever i try to ghost a dab off a nail - thats' an extreme example but it fits, ghost a dab, go down to the couch 'n sit a bit - that should be clear proof for anyone who tries it that more vapor is absorbed when left in longer.

I can't afford to blow vapor hits out, but that's my own out-of-work problem

So, my prized possession - my prize for spending 2, 6, or even nine hours each week trying to win an Omicron, is going to be a version one Omi. I knew that at the beginning of the contest, but allowed my expectations to creep after they gave away a couple of Persei's on 4/20, and didn't post the following weeks it was back to a version 1. In the meantime i read this thread, and a version one didn't hold any draw for me after reading about the new cartridges, but failed to make the connection back to what i was doing every Friday night.

I didn't manage my expectations, so my disappointment is my own creation.

Weedtracker keeps coming up with really stupid contests, and re-using them even though they're annoying and problematic for the users, like guess a number between one and one thousand, but give the users no easy method of determining which numbers have been chosen or not. So, I did a quick analysis, and since there was no limit on number of guesses, and they promised it would be a random number chosen the following Friday, I began filling in the blanks, and left two hundred numbers unguessed so i wouldn't be a pig about it, and posted occasionally my progress by showing clearly which numbers hadn't been chosen yet. They got back the following monday, shit a brick that the thread had grown to forty pages, and chose the number 710, one of the first guesses, but one which linked to Task and Linus' "Boil That Oil" MP3. They said absolutely no complaining, but nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, i'm over here. hahaha
 
VWFringe,

Jay420

Member
Yes, I currently use the Ego-W carts that Delta9 offers on their website. I know that they are not actually intended for use with essential oils, but they work great as a load-as-you-go type device. Plus, they're not presoaked in glycerin like the "G-Tanks" that Grenco offers. For me, the Ego-W is a temporary solution until the Nail Cart is finally released. Lord knows that I hope that is soon!
How does it compare to dabbing and do you use it indoors? I've been looking for a better temp. solution myself :brow:.
 
Jay420,

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
How does it compare to dabbing and do you use it indoors? I've been looking for a better temp. solution myself :brow:.

So far, nothing has been able to match a dab off of a TI nail but it does the job when I'm not at home. That's why I'm anxiously awaiting the release of the Nail Cart. I use it both indoors and outdoors and it's important to note that there is indeed a smell when you use your vaporizer, regardless of what many people in the forums say. Maybe Pure Gold doesn't have a scent (not lucky enough to have it out on this coast to try for myself), but everything that I vape smells like the herb it came from.
 

sgvpunk

Well-Known Member
Do they sell replacement batteries for the hvd on delta9vapes.com? Are they the 14250 -300mah?
 
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