Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

[OF]

Does this mean I can stop washing my butt?

Only if you're single, and want to stay that way. Or married and really don't want to stay that way?

If you really want to explore this, I understand there are 'specialists' in this area across the bay in SF who can no doubt contribute at several levels......

OF

 

[jambandphan03]

I am unclear as to what makes some oils more runny than others? I have some BHO and ISO oils, both are mostly solid at room temp, and liquid around body temp if handled. I have yet to make an oil that remains runny.

 

[DubCRider]

Co2 is runny fresh out of the extractor. I'm not sure about runny BHO, never seen it.

I think what's being talked about is how long the concentrate stays liquid after letting go of the button. The stuff that wants to keep being liquid will leak more.

 

[jambandphan03]

yeah, I was just curious to see if anyone had any insight on why some are more runny than others.

 

[WatTyler]

I've been thinking about trying the reclaim from my dabbing rigs in a cart instead. It always stays slightly runny and never goes hard (because it's been decarbed I think) so I'm thinking it might wick better. I've had mixed results with my home made BHO, which though of excellent quality has suffered from inconsistent clouds and clogging issues. I'm wondering if this might offer an improvement.

I'm also curious if BHO held in the reservoir of the cart gets decarbed to the extent where it no longer sets hard- the repeated heating to make it wickable makes me think it might be, but I've not yet needed to reclaim from a cart so can't verify this. Can anyone who's reclaimed from a cart confirm this? If it is the case then I might just decarb the oil before it goes in in future to make it more runny and flow better. Anyone got any thoughts on this? I know flavour might suffer, but hopefully in return for performance.

I wish I could get things like pure gold. How runny is it- Honey runny? Treacle runny? Maple syrup runny?

 

[Jeppy]

Only if you're single, and want to stay that way. Or married and really don't want to stay that way?

If you really want to explore this, I understand there are 'specialists' in this area across the bay in SF who can no doubt contribute at several levels......

OF

Ya,,,I guess in the "bay",,there are 'specialist' of every nature.... Personally,,,I've never been down the hershey highway and rarely make it to the longest bridge. I have heard they reclaim alot of sexy oil from omicron cartridges there.

 

[Silvercloud538]

Normal priming is way too much for the 1.5's In fact I don't really think you can prime them very well at all unless you properly load the cart in the first place. If you look at the Persei forum you'll see people talking about priming their "hot" carts on a lower voltage but since we are already at the lowest voltage the only way to get less heat is to cycle the button on and off.

1st make sure the cart is loaded right, I like using a little LED light to look inside and see how far down the oil made it. Just shine in one side pointed away from your eyes and look in the other. If you need to heat the cart again with a lighter.

2nd if you need to prime it by using the cart's heater I find 2sec on 2sec off is pretty much perfect. Press button till it's fully blue, let it go untill it's fully off and repeat.

EDIT: And yeah I've had omicron carts that I got frustrated with and got too hot, oil does turn to liquid... If you get a cart hot give it a cold pull every min or so until it's cool to keep an eye on it

JKA ,me thinks we're on same page w/ regulating H E A T @ '"all times"' (keeping "hands on shield" while drawing to confirm unit will not overheat) ~

When indicas involved ,P A T I E N C E is the V I R T U E ,LoL

As far as loading properly ,hav noticed if '"fill tool"' is completely clean (slots inside tool not clogged) after fill ,then good to go !

Down to my last 3 new carts out of 10 ~ (1) 2.4 ohm ,(2) 1.5 ohm ~ havn't thrown in towel yet on indicas ~ will try JKA's suggestion ,keeping prime count up ,but in shorter intervals (secs)

 

[OF]

yeah, I was just curious to see if anyone had any insight on why some are more runny than others.

My thought is THC is THC, so that part can't be the difference. It has to be in the 40% or so 'other stuff' in the concentrate. Waxes (more common with BHO?) should make it thicker, water, plant oils, chlorophyll and the like make it thinner?

OF

 

[tharealmclovin]

So any videos or reviews of the 1.5 ohm carts????

or even better a video review??

 

[Silvercloud538]

I think it's a safe enough bet that a fair number of folks tried 1.5 Ohm carts before they were released, don't you? It follows that if even one person had had noting but failures of this sort they would never have been released. Therefore I'd start with the idea that nobody has seen this?

We were told from the start that such 'overdriven' carts would be 'for experts only' as there would be some thin ice you'd be skating on in quest of even bigger clouds. This seems to confirm that?

FWIW I think JKA is on the right track. It should not take longer to prime. Leaking seals are the classic sign of overheated seals (or way too thin an extract?). Something in the load/prime technique is probably at the root of it, not the design.

OF

Well evidentally ,the`1.5's might hav been tested a little longer ~ since my order of the 1.5's was prolly 1st to arrive ,let's`see if any other sim issues` arise in near future ~

 

[OF]

Well evidentally ,the`1.5's might hav been tested a little longer ~ since my order of the 1.5's was prolly 1st to arrive ,let's`see if any other sim issues` arise in near future ~

I guess I see no such evidence.

But you're right, if there is a design defect we'll know real soon.

May I ask what your experience is with the standard resistance carts? Any problems there? How different were the 1.5s from the 2.4s?

OF

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

What you all think? small production starting next week.

 

[Mflbparox]

finish the herb cart first i think haha

and i have a Question FC i Used about 7grams into a bho run but didnt spray that much butane probably a half or a little less than half a can of vector i didnt get that much oil and i just looked at the bud in my baster and it still smells good and looks crystalized and nice would it be worth a shot to do an QWISO run on this? or is that harmful any tips?

 

[jambandphan03]

About the glass mouth piece, :/ Was my first reaction, I guess some will like it, looks a little big and clunky to me. Just giving honest feedback. How is the weight balance when it's on the battery?

 

[WatTyler]

nice

 

[Silvercloud538]

I guess I see no such evidence.

But you're right, if there is a design defect we'll know real soon.

May I ask what your experience is with the standard resistance carts? Any problems there? How different were the 1.5s from the 2.4s?

OF

In response to your inqury ,the 2.4's were similar in their effect [ indicas ran long ,long ; satties no prob (no leak ,no nada) ~ LEAK issue w/ 2.4's always related to 'INDICA' ,yes caused by enentually overheating w /'"BATTERY"' (bypassing cutoff) ~


BTW ,no matter what anyone says ,MY TIMER IS '"EXACTLY !! secs"' ~ My man ,@ VMC (1st place f*ckn ridiculous wax/budder) has an 'omi' set @ secs ALSO !! ~ this patient might be ill ,but not hallucinating (i wish !)

 

[tharealmclovin]

In response to your inqury ,the 2.4's were similar in their effect [ indicas ran long ,long ; satties no prob (no leak ,no nada) ~ LEAK issue w/ 2.4's always related to 'INDICA' ,yes caused by enentually overheating w /'"BATTERY"' (bypassing cutoff) ~


BTW ,no matter what anyone says ,MY TIMER IS '"EXACTLY !! secs"' ~ My man ,@ VMC (1st place f*ckn ridiculous wax/budder) has an 'omi' set @ secs ALSO !! ~ this patient might be ill ,but not hallucinating (i wish !)

It doesn't really matter on the amount of time. I was asking if it had no shutoff like the persei

 

[beEasy]

What you all think? small production starting next week.

I like the aluminum mouth piece more, it fits the look of the Omicron better. Will the aluminum mouth pieces be sold separately?

 

[OF]

In response to your inqury ,the 2.4's were similar in their effect [ indicas ran long ,long ; satties no prob (no leak ,no nada) ~ LEAK issue w/ 2.4's always related to 'INDICA' ,yes caused by enentually overheating w /'"BATTERY"' (bypassing cutoff) ~


BTW ,no matter what anyone says ,MY TIMER IS '"EXACTLY !! secs"' ~ My man ,@ VMC (1st place f*ckn ridiculous wax/budder) has an 'omi' set @ secs ALSO !! ~ this patient might be ill ,but not hallucinating (i wish !)

First off, I'm sorry but I can barely read and understand the text you're sending so I hope I'm not misreading it too badly. I've also got no issues with how many seconds some timer I can't mess with is. If it's on about the right time, let's move on?

If I read the rest correctly, you've had basically the same response with 2.4 grain carts (leaks and poor feeding) in at least some cases? To me kinda says 'if you have similar problems with 1.5 and 2.4 Ohm carts, it's probably something other than the resistance'. If a guy has loaded and used say a dozen 2.4s and then can't make 1.5s work I'd start suspecting the 1.5s and looking for other examples. In this case, perhaps not? A huge number of guys have no problems with 2.4 Ohm carts.

And for sure I don't think there's a lick of difference between Indica and Sativa based oils WRT how they feed. The difference between types is a very subtle 'tweak' of chemicals with very similar properties. For instance, how about Pure Gold that has no source type? If you're seeing some oils work and not others of similar type (consistency, not source) there's an issue there to be resolved as I see it. AFAIK you're the only guy in the world that can tell where concentrate comes from by trying to load it in an Omicron cart.

OF

 

[bruno13]

I like the aluminum mouth piece more, it fits the look of the Omicron better. Will the aluminum mouth pieces be sold separately?

If you are ok using a file madvapes (and others) sell nice cheap Aluminum ones in 13 different colors.

 

[JoeKickass]

If you are ok using a file madvapes (and others) sell nice cheap Aluminum ones in 13 different colors.

Do you just file the bottom to make it shorter to make it fit like that?

 

[jambandphan03]

that's the tip I am using too, with out filing it, I haven't experienced any problems with it yet, but I am still on the same cart, so that could change with the next one. How are you filing it down? Any pics of that?

 

[bruno13]

Do you just file the bottom to make it shorter to make it fit like that?

Yes. I found the worst fitting cart I had and filed all of tham to fit it. I probably filed more than I needed, but I did not want them touching the bridge. They have worked great. They are all silghtly different and each color needed a different amount filed off.

 

[OF]

Yes. I found the worst fitting cart I had and filed all of tham to fit it. I probably filed more than I needed, but I did not want them touching the bridge. They have worked great. They are all silghtly different and each color needed a different amount filed off.

I did exactly this with several plastic tips. Filed almost all the flange off.

However, I came across a subtle issue not expected; blocking the tube itself. I found the tip would seal on top of the bridge (helped by goo and oil collected). It still draws fine, but when pressure builds up (from heating the load and outgassing) there's no way for it to vent as it normally would. This puts pressure outside the furnace relative to the inside and oil leaks along the wicks and into the chamber happen. This oil then drains down making a huge ol' mess.

The fix is to notch or countersink the bottom of the hole in the mouthpiece so that it allows venting.

OF

 

[jambandphan03]

I have not encountered that problem with mine as is, but then I don't run mine for very long, I sip it a couple of times and put it down, guess I'm much more of an oil light weight than you guys are.