next generation e-nails?

[Bouldorado]

I haven't used an Enail, but with the Sublimator Apollo v1.0 gave me the smoothest and most flavorful dabs yet. The only time my ti nail gets used is when someone borrows it.

After browsing this thread I would build my own or just get the 710 whip if I didn't own a Sublimator. The Sublimator is pretty nice for dabbing as well, but much more expensive. Don't overlook the Sublimator Enail if your into dabbing. The thing can handle 1 gram dabs at a time.

Apart from the coil and the ceramic nail, you could totally build an enail with parts from radio shack or home depot. The 710whip literally uses a dimmer switch for its heater control.

Not sure why anyone needs to do 1 gram dabs, but you can always turn the heat up on a standard enail to do the same. In that regard, with the 710whip, I noticed that max temp is 600F. Now IDK if he means at the heating element or the nail itself (one would assume at the element). That being said, I remind you that I need to bump my heat up past 750 at the element to get 600° F on my ceramic nail. The same ceramic nail that comes in the 710 kit. True, you can dab at lower temps, but I found it wastes quite a bit of oil that way and the hits aren't nearly as dense (effective).

I think they mean on the nail. I tested my friend's w/ my IR gun and it was reading pretty damn close to 600. Anyways, I took 3 decent sized dabs off the 710whip and they were what I call complete: the nail wasn't smoking when I finished inhaling and there was no pooling of the oil.

I should mention that I don't think the 710whip would work very well without a carb cap.

 

[Aaron]

Apart from the coil and the ceramic nail, you could totally build an enail with parts from radio shack or home depot. The 710whip literally uses a dimmer switch for its heater control.

Like this? Soon to be available from d-nail but it cost $250..

 

[Caligula]

Pass at $250

 

[Bouldorado]

Like this? Soon to be available from d-nail but it cost $250..

Yep. Pretty much identical to that.

 

[AlexisSmith67]

I've been using the Sticky Box E-Nail for about 2 months now and it works really well. I'm still playing around with it but I think works pretty efficiently and doesn't fluctuate in temperature at all. I've been using it with ceramic nails but I'm looking to try it with quartz. I got it for around $270 with free shipping so I was all smiles .

http://wizardpuff.com/collections/e-nails-1/products/the-stickybox-e-nail-by-wizard-puff

 

[PoopMachine]

Ive been in contact with the guys at The Terpz and they're going to send me a bunch of information on their device.

Ill post up as soon as I have more to share.

 

[Aaron]

Pass at $250

Now available for $70 per controller - http://www.d-nail.com/product-p/d-control-ana-v2-controlonly.htm

I've been using the Sticky Box E-Nail for about 2 months now and it works really well. I'm still playing around with it but I think works pretty efficiently and doesn't fluctuate in temperature at all. I've been using it with ceramic nails but I'm looking to try it with quartz. I got it for around $270 with free shipping so I was all smiles .

http://wizardpuff.com/collections/e-nails-1/products/the-stickybox-e-nail-by-wizard-puff

If anyone is interested in this e-nail, you could get it for a bit cheaper on Alibaba. -http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2014-Hot-sales-Mini-Enail-Hot_60032840626.html

The Terpz e-nails seem to be the cheapest digital on the market right now. Not too sure if they built it themselves but I don't think anyone can beat those prices..

 

[weenstoned]

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/110V...r-with-temperature-controller/2050953326.html

Just found this one. Looks to be slightly cheaper than most of the chinese ones. Big ugly case tho.

 

[PoopMachine]

Im supposed to be getting a call from The Terpz guys to talk about their unit but they havent called yet. We've been trying to connect since early last week.

 

[Deadhead710]

would love to hear back some feedback on the terpz unit as well please keep us posted does anybody on here know if the nails off of are aliexpress are legit i see a few units on there for about 170 shipped to us

 

[PoopMachine]

So I talked with one of the owners of The Terpz last night for quite a while. Very nice guy.

Here's what I can tell you. The unit is made in China. He was very forthcoming with that but followed that up with "What piece of electronics do you have in your house now that wasnt made in China?" and he's got a good point. But he followed that up with "However, all support is done here by us."

They worked with a company that builds these kinds of things on a huge level and most of the stuff was apparently built along the lines from the DIY thread on Reddit.

He's going to send me some pictures of the internals that Ill post here when I get them.

Even tho its a Chinese made device, it was made to their specs. The one issue they seem to be having trouble with is their quartz nails and are going to make a move to TI but offer quartz as an option. I have a local quartz guy Im going to take some of their nails to and see if he can duplicate or improve them.

Ive got a unit coming that Ill review once it gets here and it will be a very thorough review. I feel like after talking to the owner that its probably going to be a pretty good product. These guys arent interested in 400% markup and are more concerned with building their company and brand around a good product and being around for the long haul.

More to come!

 

[Deadshort480]

Their quartz nails are a problem because of the placement of the floor of the dish. It's too low below the coil so a lot of pooling occurs. They need the redesigned nails with the the raised floor that sits at the middle of the coil.

 

[PoopMachine]

Yea, I have a quartz guy here local thats going to see if he can fix that

 

[DieHard]

After talking with one of the partners at a Trade Show , I think I am going to go with the Errlectric Concentration Station. It is more expensive but it is UL Listed. No other E-nail can claim that. That says a lot for the safety and reliability of the product. We spoke about what that involved and cost. 10 units put through every kind of torture imaginable. 60,000 heat cycles. It seems to have better heat control than a typical PID. They claim "soft heat" algorithim.
Anyway made in USA! Is a win for me.

 

[PoopMachine]

Their stuff looks pretty nice!

The guy at The Terpz said every controller is put through a 48 hour stress test before shipping. I think there is about to be a plethora of e-nails out there on the market.

 

[Deadshort480]

Their stuff looks pretty nice!

The guy at The Terpz said every controller is put through a 48 hour stress test before shipping. I think there is about to be a plethora of e-nails out there on the market.

There already is! There are so many iterations of the same thing out there, it's insane. Just search "nail" on Instagram and at least a dozen different Enails pop up.

 

[PoopMachine]

Their quartz nails are a problem because of the placement of the floor of the dish. It's too low below the coil so a lot of pooling occurs. They need the redesigned nails with the the raised floor that sits at the middle of the coil.

Actually their problem is most of them showed up chipped or broken. Theyve already shipped all the ones that were defect free. Thats why theyre contemplating the move to TI.

 

[Deadshort480]

Actually their problem is most of them showed up chipped or broken. Theyve already shipped all the ones that were defect free. Thats why theyre contemplating the move to TI.

That seems to be a bigger problem than the design flaw that I'm talking about, which also leaves the version of that quartz nail rather useless even in perfect condition.

 

[PoopMachine]

That seems to be a bigger problem than the design flaw that I'm talking about, which also leaves the version of that quartz nail rather useless even in perfect condition.

I think thats part of whats spurring the change to Ti. Im supposed to have a call with them today so maybe Ill have more details.

 

[Caligula]

From my experience quartz is a fail on enails until someone can find a way to make a two piece quartz nail or some.other way to directly heat the underside of the cup. If you can't do that then you are going to get pooling and wasted oil no matter what unless you plan on cranking the heat up super high.

For enail use I'm sold on ceramic at this point. I'm also interested in these ceramic inserts (big ceramic washers) that fit inside titanium nail dishes. Seems like a legitimate hybrid option. IIRC @mvapes has been fuxing with those.

 

[Deadshort480]

D-Nail has released a lab made sapphire insert. They are supposedly superior to the ceramic inserts, although I don't know how. $50 a pop too, I believe.

 

[Caligula]

D-Nail has released a lab made sapphire insert. They are supposedly superior to the ceramic inserts, although I don't know how. $50 a pop too, I believe.

Want! @mvapes WTF bro? I thought you were up on all this dnail shit? Lol.

 

[Dr200]

I think thats part of whats spurring the change to Ti. Im supposed to have a call with them today so maybe Ill have more details.

I look forward to hear more about the terpz. I'm so close to ordering from them.

 

[PoopMachine]

I look forward to hear more about the terpz. I'm so close to ordering from them.

Im waiting for them to get their TI nails then Im going to pull the trigger. I have used one of the Auber Insturments e-nails as well and I cant say enough good about that unit for what it costs. Very stable temperature control, the nail is pretty nice and it packs a hell of a punch.


Honestly after using an e-enail, I dont know why anyone would use a torch unless it was for portability sake.

 

[GR]

Honestly after using an e-enail, I dont know why anyone would use a torch unless it was for portability sake.

When my VB2 is not getting repaired I don't use a torch but after years of dabbing with a torch I find the process simple. I can pull out a glass rig of choice, torch, oil, and dabber do a dab and put it all away again in less then one minute when using small TI nails. One torch is 3 years old, the other is two and have never stopped heating as long as they have fuel. A torch is very reliable and that's why I will keep one around.