lol! First HE rip off D-Nail, now China rip offs of the HE - the kicker is that the China rip off looks better than the HE ones on ALT!!!!
Excellent write-up dude! The High5 Quad has the same PID's so I got to use it for a few days when my coil died. For straight dabbing it worked about as well as the Omron, the temp drop is nothing compared to torch dabbing where the temp is is constant freefall and I still manage fine with that. In a practical sense my only real issue is that it's a pain to adjust the temp up and down for cleaning, you press and hold and the rate of change increases over a few seconds until it's going too fast and you overshoot your target. On the Omron it changes faster and at the same rate and you can change it in increments of 1, 10, 100 with a click or two which makes it really fast.I finally got around to writing up a few things. Got my HighFive e-nail in! I love the graphic! I got pillars of creation and it is some very clever artwork! The red plane PID isn't very attractive IMO. The Omron obviously looks way better but is also more expensive. I wish I could change the red on the HighFive PID to white or blue or green. Oh well, it's not the end of the world
Anyways, the 710 whip ceramic nails do not fit with the Gimido or HighFive e-nail flat coils from my experience. I have both the 710 ceramic nails with and without the slit (I believe the newest design is the one with the slit), and both seem to be the exact same size. Unless 710 whip changed the design since early 2015 (when in purchased these nails IIRC), I think the threads right under the dish are just too large to fit through for most flat coils. Neither nails fit either flat coil I have. Here are some pics. The Gimido center hole is slightly smaller than the HighFive.
Gimido coil on top, HighFive on bottom.
Gimido coil
HighFive coil
My Gimido e-nail has the Omron LCD PID and the HighFive has the standard cheap red PID.
I still need to make some rosin and dab to see temp drop difference, but so far I was able to compare heat up times.
I set both e-nails to 680F. The Gimido steadily increased to 680F and it never went over 680F. The HighFive increased at a quicker rate and went to about 700F (the Gimido was at about 600F at this time). The HighFive then dropped down to 680F at about the same time the Gimido reached 680F.
So heat up time is about the same. Obviously the Omron PID is much more accurate since it did not overshoot the set temp. I'm sure the Omron will have less temp drop during hits, but honestly, if you don't glob, I think the cheap standard PIDs work very well
Also, one last note, the Omron PID sits at 680F and never fluctuates when not in use (okay maybe I shouldn't say never because I have seen it drop down to 679F before - probably from an air draft - but anyways it basically always sits at the set temp). However the HighFive fluctuates between 678-682F. Just helps show the accuracy of the Omron PID once again.
EDIT:
Made some rosin. Took small dabs on each nail. Maybe 0.02g size dabs. Both dropped down to 675F. I'm guessing this temp drop is more from the 70F cold carb cab and not the dab since temp only starts to drop after I cap the nail.
In conclusion, cheap e-nails seem to work just as fine for me as more expensive e-nails.
Hope this helps
EDIT 2:
I realized Quartz doesn't hold its heat as well as SiC so comparing the Quartz halo on the Gimido to the SiC on the HighFive isn't very accurate. I bet if I swap the 2 I would get an even more stable Gimido and a less stable HighFive.
lol! First HE rip off D-Nail, now China rip offs of the HE - the kicker is that the China rip off looks better than the HE ones on ALT!!!!
Oh man, They are cheaper than HE's and charging only $25 for the quartz dish. That has got to be Chinese manufactured too. I really do wonder if my friend @weenstoned is right about HE manufacturing through a Chinese partner. I have heard that he has a 'partner' manufacture the quartz dishes and possibly some other parts of their halo. Still not sure if it was just the dish.
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As far as I've seen New-Vape at least does all their metal work in house in Florida, for glass they need to contract out so it's likely China at that price. I'm almost tempted to try one just to compare to the Halo but I don't feel like wasting the money.
D-nail manufacture their quartz in a way that will not be cheaply replicated anywhere.Heh, I remember years back HE used to proudly state(On their site/blog) all products were machined in America
That being said, I decided to check to see if what the other big dogs said on their site. You sure Dnail isn't producing their quartz and Ti via China? It worried me at how specific this paragraph is for everything they produce, but Ti and nonpunkie quartz.
"Every component of our D-NAiL® Essential Oil Vaporizers is built, designed, or both in the US, Canada, or Europe. Each vaporizer is assembled in Albany, NY. Every titanium product is made using only US Grade 1 Titanium. Pukinbeagle quartz nails are hand-made in Denver, CO. Wood enclosures use exotic hardwoods from around the world and are hand-crafted in Troy, NY."
So its US grade 1 titanium, but they don't mention if it was actually produced in America. Does that mean US produced or certified? What about non punkie quartz?
I don't think many people aren't using China quartz and Ti manufacturers nowadays, but who knows
! Love hearing companies improve when, in all honesty, they most likely were doing just fine before. 
? I don't have much experience with the quartz halo or HE hybrid so I leave discussion of quality up to those who do. Just felt the information would be pertinent to the discussion. Since HE and Newvapes quartz sourcing was being discussed, I thought it was only natural to discuss the sources of one of the most(if not the most) popular item in the thread.
Hey bro, didn't think you were knocking the quartz halo at allThat's all good information to have, and I'm glad to hear they are using medical grade Ti sourced from an American company
As for the quartz halo, I hope you don't think I was knocking it
You cleared up the Ti question, but you only really discussed the merits of the quartz. You eluded to HE and other competition not wanting to manufacturer in the US due to cost, but never stated Dnail manufacturers their quartz in the US. Is Dnail sourcing and cutting the quartz dishes in US?
Also I agree it is pertinent for comparison to understand which country the original quartz halos were made in.
This is definitely a possibility, IMO nothing smells worse than residual vapor from a 5-10 minute old too-low-temp dab - even on sapphire! See if jacking up your temp solves this
Rest assured that I am collecting data on this issue and have already reported to D-nail that a number of FC people have had this problem (so far count is at 3). I have notified them that this occurs regardless of whether electronic or torch heating has been used, and also that this still occurs after the user has thoroughly iso/torch cleaned their Ti.
These reports have certainly gotten my interest!
Glad to help bro
This is definitely a possibility, IMO nothing smells worse than residual vapor from a 5-10 minute old too-low-temp dab - even on sapphire! See if jacking up your temp solves this
Man I wish I could walk you through creating a vacuum intake above your nail leading to a cold trap to capture and bottle this smelly gas/offgas for further analysis. I am so fascinated by this issue and would love to find the culprit!
This is the perfect time for phones and computers to have Smell-O-Vision! Come on future, hurry up already
but seriously I want to know what is causing the smell!
Why would they not want to name the manufacturer of their Ti? There would be no reason not to unless they had something to hide. Transparency's the name of the game here. It should be a badge of honor ... not something to hide.D-nail manufacture their quartz in a way that will not be cheaply replicated anywhere.
This is potentially why noone ever did a knock off of the D-nail quartz halo but HE knock offs appeared right away!
What I can tell you is that the D-nail quartz halo wik surface is tooled by a custom made tool (which ensures that the wicking surface grooves are not too deep, which leads to clogging), the non wicking parts of the d-nail quartz are not simply flame polished like the Chinese competitors, they are polished the same way laser lenses are made. This is advanced manufacturing that shows in the finished product and it would cost multiple millions of dollars to replicate this manufacturing. This is not gonna be imitated with a rough cut of quartz and a flame polish.
D-nail now use a new (as in newly supplying D-nail) American medical manufacturer for their Ti. Rather than the other two manufacturers they used to use in the past. The reason for not naming a state is likely because there have been various periods where ti manufacturer has changed, or been more than one manufacturer in different locations. I will seek clarification though and have word soon enough no doubt. Don't expect me to have a name of a manufacturer to provide though, since nobody is likely to give away the exact details of their supply line!
Still, the quartz is beyond reproach. Seriously, try to find better quartz than the quartz halo. It is stable, immaculately polished and perfectly tooled (tooling quartz is very dangerous due to flying particulates - that are particularly dangerous in the case of human exposure and can break through many materials - check out the regulations for scratching quartz in an industrial space with the US, this is why the competitors didn't try to manufacture there no doubt, can easily spend tens of millions in regulatory compliance/safety costs alone!).
This is definitely a possibility, IMO nothing smells worse than residual vapor from a 5-10 minute old too-low-temp dab - even on sapphire! See if jacking up your temp solves this
Low temp glob city all day 
