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[druidintheoldays]

Time to get excited fellas.

That DOES sound exciting. Trouble is, to me Sub ohm means complicated and costly (the two deadly 'C's).
Also, won't it just guzzle away your 'cannajuice' in an instant? or is it a case of not needing as many hits to get you there (and, does it keep you there)?

 

[Dabuisnez]

First, awesome forum, thanks for everyone's contribution! I have been looking for some informotion about all of this for a while, and can't wait to share my upcoming experiences with everyone. I actually have some wax liquidizer on the way and have been reading everything on here, as well as looking at reviews on YouTube for all the mentioned RTA's. I have gone through a bunch of pre-filled cartridges from all brands and can't wait to up the game into some RTAs or RDAs. After looking around, I wanted to know if anyone has ever used the Merlin mini? It looks like it would be awesome for this application. It just comes with so many options, including the adjustment screw for mouth-to-lung hits, plus I feel it would even lessen the chance for leakage. Just wanted to join the conversation and see if anyone has had any experience with this RTA? Thanks!

Here is a great review:

I personally haven't got into those yet. I have a big baby coming and will start using

That DOES sound exciting. Trouble is, to me Sub ohm means complicated and costly (the two deadly 'C's).
Also, won't it just guzzle away your 'cannajuice' in an instant? or is it a case of not needing as many hits to get you there (and, does it keep you there)?

The baby beast tank is probably 23 bucks most place. The coil made it thru a second batch. It does drink juice but fewer hits required. It gives a very satisfying hit. Still more time is needed. Will make a new batch friday and will keep you all updated.

 

[druidintheoldays]

It gives a very satisfying hit. Still more time is needed. Will make a new batch friday and will keep you all updated.

How does a hit of the same juice from your 'non-sub ohm' Nautilus compare? (as a reference point if you get me).

 

[throwawaytre3s]

I will say in my experience, a sub ohn tank doesn't necessarily chug your juice as quickly as you'd think. Concentrate e-juices tend to be pretty thick, and will only absorb only so much at a time into the wick. I had to wait 10-15 minutes between ripping it again after getting 10-11 good hits.

 

[druidintheoldays]

I had to wait 10-15 minutes between ripping it again after getting 10-11 good hits.

Ok so here I go, 'noob question alert'.

How do you know you're going to have to wait 10-15 minutes till you can rip again? Like, does it just stop vaping, period. or what are the (probably obvious) signs? (Mind you, 10 or 12 good hits? that'd surely do me for a good while - on a good day, so why am I even aksing this? Because I'm baked probably).

I've been traveling down the dry herb vaping path for a while as I'm a TASTE and TERPENE freak
BUT,
let me get this right...
is 'Sub Ohm'ing' with 'concentrate E Juices' something that people are practicing these days (trust me to get left behind)?
If that's the case, are there any typical, like, temp settings etc being established for typical (concentrate) e juice types / viscosity etc?

 

[Dabuisnez]

Ok so here I go, 'noob question alert'.

How do you know you're going to have to wait 10-15 minutes till you can rip again? Like, does it just stop vaping, period. or what are the (probably obvious) signs? (Mind you, 10 or 12 good hits? that'd surely do me for a good while - on a good day, so why am I even aksing this? Because I'm baked probably).

I've been traveling down the dry herb vaping path for a while as I'm a TASTE and TERPENE freak
BUT,
let me get this right...
is 'Sub Ohm'ing' with 'concentrate E Juices' something that people are practicing these days (trust me to get left behind)?
If that's the case, are there any typical, like, temp settings etc being established for typical (concentrate) e juice types / viscosity etc?

Honestly there just isnt a very comprehensive guide to this despite how long this has been possible. Here is my current 2 cents. The baby beast tank is doing fantastic. My ratio is 2 to 1 right now and its almost instant head/body change after a good hit. The tank is wicking very well at this ratio. I dont want to have to chain vape to get a buzz and its working great. My nautilus just worked. It was hella harsh though and massive hits weren't possible. It didnt wick fast enough. So as i said it worked for small hits but that was it. The beast works on a large scale without being harsh. Ofcourse ratio means alot for chain vaping since the juice will need to wick fast. Hence the beauty of a working sub ohm tank. 3 hits your solid put it down or come back in a few minutes it can handle it. Its still a test for me. If i had better access to concentrates the test would be easier. Hopefully one of you guys grab 1 and gives it a shot.

How does a hit of the same juice from your 'non-sub ohm' Nautilus compare? (as a reference point if you get me).

Its harsher on the nautilus. It worked on a small scale but wasn't giving me the hit needed to prove vaping concentrates was worth it. Baby beast changed the game for me.

 

[druidintheoldays]

Baby beast changed the game for me.

I'd grab one right away. They seem a good price atm. Trouble is I haven't got a mod to marry it up with (nor can I splash out for one just yet.

 

[Dabuisnez]

I'd grab one right away. They seem a good price atm. Trouble is I haven't got a mod to marry it up with (nor can I splash out for one just yet.

Completely understandable. Thats the tuff part about all of this. Trial and error adds up. Thats why i am freely sharing my results to hopefully save some ppl the grief i have went thru. With that being said i dont think you need a super mod. 50watts should be more than enuf and if im not mistaken som of the beast coils can run 20s and 30s no prob.

 

[gigimarga123]

Ok guys. Huge discovery. Got my bud today. Pressed 4.7 gs and got 1 gram of rosin. Mixed with 2mils and had 3mils together. Filled my nautilus and still had 1 mil left. Seen my baby beast was low on juice so i said fuck it. Dropped remaining juice in there and OMG. 3 hits and im freaking blown. Completely floored by result. I didn't think sub ohm would work well but the beast is killing it. Guys i have found the 1 hitter. Now i have to test more because this changes it all. Current setup is a alien smok mod. Baby beast tank using t8 coil. Running currently at 50 watts. 0.15 ohms. Strawberry cough liquidizer. 2/1 WL to rosin. Time to get excited fellas.

Hi mate!
Noob question: what you're doing with what remain of dubs?
I mean... you got 1g of rosin but a lot(i think) of like burned dub.... how much dub remain and what you're doing with that remaining dub?
Cheers!

 

[Dabuisnez]

Hi mate!
Noob question: what you're doing with what remain of dubs?
I mean... you got 1g of rosin but a lot(i think) of like burned dub.... how much dub remain and what you're doing with that remaining dub?
Cheers!

Well depending on how many times i press it. Always good to grind up and smoke. If you only do 1 press its still very good. I used 4.7 gs and had 3.5 after press. Its very smokable and best mixed. Its compressed and still has rosin on it. Burns slow. I have a big update coming for everyone later tonight. Had a bad run on last batch but i know why. Will do a very indepth post tonight.

 

[gigimarga123]

Well depending on how many times i press it. Always good to grind up and smoke. If you only do 1 press its still very good. I used 4.7 gs and had 3.5 after press. Its very smokable and best mixed. Its compressed and still has rosin on it. Burns slow. I have a big update coming for everyone later tonight. Had a bad run on last batch but i know why. Will do a very indepth post tonight.

Thanks for your so quick answer, mate!
Im not interested in smocking so... this method is not so good for me. Vaping is ok but smocking, for me, is not. Do you consider a good idea to do oil?
Waiting for your tonight update
Have fun!

 

[Tokin_Jbyrd]

So it sounds like this baby beast is doing good. That's awesome. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with a good RTA such as the Goblin mini v3, EXO by iJoy, Merlin mini, or any others. I have a Goblin mini v3 coming to me and I look forward to sharing with you all how I feel about it.
Also, it seems like alot of people are moving to sub ohm for regular vaping and now for thc liquid. However, has anyone themselves compared a sub ohm coil to something around a 1-1.5ohm coil? I plan on building some SS coils and want to play around and compare regular vs Clapton as well as try to find a good resistance to use with TC. Even though I know a lot of this is subjective I like to try to find a good starting point.
Thanks again for everyone's input, I'm so glad I found this forum!

 

[Dabuisnez]

Thanks for your so quick answer, mate!
Im not interested in smocking so... this method is not so good for me. Vaping is ok but smocking, for me, is not. Do you consider a good idea to do oil?
Waiting for your tonight update
Have fun!

Can be used for edibles since its decarbed by press. Almost all prefilled pens use oil. If you can make it you can vape it.

 

[gigimarga123]

Can be used for edibles since its decarbed by press. Almost all prefilled pens use oil. If you can make it you can vape it.

Me again: have you used the microwave oven to mixt WL with concentrate?
I wonder what happ with thc at that temp (over 230)... actually not remain too much...

 

[throwawaytre3s]

Me again: have you used the microwave oven to mixt WL with concentrate?
I wonder what happ with thc at that temp (over 230)... actually not remain too much...

I've seen a few folks get hung up on that. Just don't microwave it? Microwave the liquid then add your concentrates after? That's what I did. You only need to heat to make the wax unstable enough to mix thoroughly as it melts.

 

[bagelbanger]

Made another batch of shatter + WL with pretty good results. Using 1g - 2ml with a shot glass and water bath. Kept temp lower then 160* F. Made a batch w some strawberry WL previously and it tasted delicious but tried it with a notch coil. Kinda liked it but found it to chug juice and it started to sputter once the tank of juice started to get low on juice. Had a stoner moment and didn't realize the first coil I used in the cubis mini was a 1.5 clapton. Using this again on the new batch as it seems to be a bit more conservative w juice. I may play around again with the notch coil and see if I can get it to work better as the taste seemed pleasant although that could have just been the strawberry WL overpowering. Curious to hear from others how different coils and resistance effect taste. I have a few extra notch coils if anybody is interested in experimenting. Just throw me a few bucks to cover US shipping via Pp. good stuff.

Anybody try the mint WL??

Curious for super stealth missions.

 

[Dabuisnez]

OK gents get yer popcorn,soda and make sure you have used the restroom. This will be a long one.

So i am currently up to 8 batches made since i started using wax liquidizer. Started with a nautilus x tank which worked some what. I had issues with harshness and dry hits. So I bought some strawberry liquidizer in hopes that i could tell what was harsh, the tank or the wax liquidizer. So now we are up to my last post, quick recap is i made a batch 2/1 came out 3 mils. nautilus only held 2 so in a panic i dropped it into my baby beast tank using a 0.15 ohm coil(x4) that i need to stress had a small amount of e liquid in bottom plus coil was soaked in it. Well it blew me away. i vaped the entire 1mil with 0 issues. No bad taste, no super harsh hits. So that other 2 mils sat in that nautilus for days. At that point my new big baby tank came in which i bought to vape e liquid and use baby for thc full time. Now i took that 2 mils out of the old tank and popped it in the baby which at that point had be refilled with e liquid to cover me until my new tank had arrived. Same scenario as before. Coil was soaked in e juice small amount in bottom. Again worked amazingly.

So came time for my last batch. Made a awesome batch. Cleaned my tank really well and loaded a new coil. Filled it up and waited for 30 mins. Came back to it and ughhhhhh. Something was wrong. It was hitting hella harsh and didn't taste like strawberry's. So after being pissed off cause i knew i was about to take a loss i began to troubleshoot. First was the possibility that i had used reg WL. Completely possible. Second was a bad coil which also isn't out of the question. Third was the very strong possibility that it was the presoaked coil that made it work. So in the mad fury that i was in i came up with a new idea. I added a small amount of what i knew 100% was strawberry WL and 10 drops of strawberry concentrate i had for ejuice. Heated and mixed, added new coil and i presoaked it in e juice. Voila it hit good but not as potent. Still worked. But i hit a prob i hadn't had before and that was my coil got gunked up and the cotton is a terrible color. i think that came from the flavor concentrate though.

So now here is my real problem. Friday i make a new batch and well i am not entirely sure how to proceed. Obviously this time i will be 100% sure i use proper WL but do i presoak coil because i know it works or do i risk it again and drop it in tank and hope it was a mistake in WL the first time or risk scrapping a coil and losing probably a mil in the process of removing and redoing. Any input would be great. As i have said before i do not have access to concentrates other than making my own so that means i get 1 shot each week or 2.

Here is a few things i have learned due to this last run. Never add any e juice on top of juice made with WL. It will destroy a coil and make a nasty mess. Now you can add WL juice on top of e juice because its thinner and will sit on top of e juice. Just a observation no more. Alcohol is needed to clean tank if such a thing happens. Water will not and i repeat will not do it until it has been through a alcohol bath.

I want to stress that i still strongly believe in this tank. It does not drink juice despite being sub ohm and gives you a very strong hit. When it worked 3 hits each time got me exactly where i wanted to be. I allowed several ppl at work to try it and got the same reaction and request which i turned down. As of now i still consider this to be in testing. Now if anyone has or uses a Temp controlled tank and mod then we might have a better option.The ideal temp for vaping thc is 347 to 392. With a temp controlled mod and coil you could keep it at that range always to insure your not burning up and gunking coils. Just a possible method. Thats all i can remember at this time. Sorry for the long winded post and really sorry for taking so long to get back on here. i wanted to make sure the frankenstein batch still worked and that the tank more importantly was still working. I want to give a special thanks to everyone who has popped up to help recently. Hopefully together we can get a clean and simple process going that just works period without any fuss.

P.S i do a double boiler always for my mix simply because constant heat is better for mixing anything period. If you nuke the WL then add concentrate the temp drops pretty fast. Although i am intrigued by the idea. Maybe i will get lucky and score enough concentrate to solve this puzzle once and for all. How in the world has no one made a tank that is for the specific purpose of vaping thc.

Happy Vaping!!

Recommended site for today www.inkedatty.com They have tinted glass for the ultimate in stealth as well as many other custom parts for tanks.

 

[OlieSmokes]

I've made it. I've finally made it to the end !!!

I first have to say all of you are awesome, and I can't wait to become a contributor.
I think I have a better idea now of how I'm going to go about this because of this forum. Thank you all.

I have made 1 attempt with 1g of shatter and original wax liquidizer. I have no clue as to what exactly the shatter is, as I'm not in a friendly state yet. I documented a little bit of my first experience.
I was using a .15 triton mini coil in an aspire nautilus. I was going for the 1.5 coil but ordered the wrong ones and were stuck with them with no other option. I've been vaping for 3 years now since I quit ciggs. I started at 24mg nic and am now down to 3.

I am a mouth to lung smoker to anything sub ohm is really out of the question for me. I'm going to order the k1 and run 1.6ohm coils maybe 1.8.

The whole thing was a major fail IMO. The first day of use was awesome at 15 watts. The next day I put it to 40w and fried the coil and tainted the juice. You live and learn, or come to forums like this so you don't make the same mistakes twice.

The 2 problems I had were that for some reason I had particles of what I assume to be dirt in the end mix. I was very sterile and in a clean environment so the only thing I can think of is it was dirt and grime from being handled so much before I got it.

My second issue was what I know think are fat lipids that separated after sitting over night. on Vapour Extracts guide the say to let the mix rest and let the lipids float to the top and skim off. Their clear guide also uses a syringe filter to make the juice clear. I haven't seen anyone here post about filtration much except the use of tea bags. Does anyone have the best method for a crystal clear liquid ?

Im going to give HT a try along with further testing with wax Liquidizer. I will be posting an update when I do my next batch.

Here is a pic of what it looked like
http://i.imgur.com/e6r8c8E.jpg

Keep up all the great work!!

 

[Dabuisnez]

Great

I've made it. I've finally made it to the end !!!

I first have to say all of you are awesome, and I can't wait to become a contributor.
I think I have a better idea now of how I'm going to go about this because of this forum. Thank you all.

I have made 1 attempt with 1g of shatter and original wax liquidizer. I have no clue as to what exactly the shatter is, as I'm not in a friendly state yet. I documented a little bit of my first experience.
I was using a .15 triton mini coil in an aspire nautilus. I was going for the 1.5 coil but ordered the wrong ones and were stuck with them with no other option. I've been vaping for 3 years now since I quit ciggs. I started at 24mg nic and am now down to 3.

I am a mouth to lung smoker to anything sub ohm is really out of the question for me. I'm going to order the k1 and run 1.6ohm coils maybe 1.8.

The whole thing was a major fail IMO. The first day of use was awesome at 15 watts. The next day I put it to 40w and fried the coil and tainted the juice. You live and learn, or come to forums like this so you don't make the same mistakes twice.

The 2 problems I had were that for some reason I had particles of what I assume to be dirt in the end mix. I was very sterile and in a clean environment so the only thing I can think of is it was dirt and grime from being handled so much before I got it.

My second issue was what I know think are fat lipids that separated after sitting over night. on Vapour Extracts guide the say to let the mix rest and let the lipids float to the top and skim off. Their clear guide also uses a syringe filter to make the juice clear. I haven't seen anyone here post about filtration much except the use of tea bags. Does anyone have the best method for a crystal clear liquid ?

Im going to give HT a try along with further testing with wax Liquidizer. I will be posting an update when I do my next batch.

Here is a pic of what it looked like
http://i.imgur.com/e6r8c8E.jpg

Keep up all the great work!!

Great to have ya with us. Here is how 1 of my rosin/WL batches looked.






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[Dabuisnez]

Well i made my batch tonight and i made a 1.2 WL to 0.6 rosin from gorilla glue strain and it went perfect. I loaded it with new coil. Hits smooth and is very potent!! Im going to go ahead and call it a success now. If i change anything now it may be to less powerful coil. Q2 or M2 for baby beast. Here is some pics. I have tinted glass for extra stealth
http://i.imgur.com/POFLDkq.jpg
So to recap my success is with Smok baby beast using X4 coil running at 40 watts. 2-3 second hits. Smooth with no harshness or burned taste. Total cost for each batch like this is 40 bucks which will last 7 days. That includes cost of a new coil each tank at 3 bucks a coil and 1.50 for WL added in aswell. To me thats perfectly acceptable. Happy vaping guys. Feel free to PM if anyone needs help.

 

[gigimarga123]

Well i made my batch tonight and i made a 1.2 WL to 0.6 rosin from gorilla glue strain and it went perfect. I loaded it with new coil. Hits smooth and is very potent!! Im going to go ahead and call it a success now. If i change anything now it may be to less powerful coil. Q2 or M2 for baby beast. Here is some pics. I have tinted glass for extra stealth
http://i.imgur.com/POFLDkq.jpg
So to recap my success is with Smok baby beast using X4 coil running at 40 watts. 2-3 second hits. Smooth with no harshness or burned taste. Total cost for each batch like this is 40 bucks which will last 7 days. That includes cost of a new coil each tank at 3 bucks a coil and 1.50 for WL added in aswell. To me thats perfectly acceptable. Happy vaping guys. Feel free to PM if anyone needs help.

What coils?

 

[Dabuisnez]

What coils?

?? What coils am i using?? X4. What coils would i switch too? Q2. These a smok beast coils.

 

[Tokin_Jbyrd]

Hey all! So here is yet another experiment (my first). As you recall I ordered a Pico kit and a goblin mini v3. So for my first test I made a batch of 1:2 (1g of gorilla glue #4 70%thc budder:2ml of regular WL). It was such a nice golden color and had a great smell and taste! I started with a .89ohm clapton (pre-made 26ga/32ga supposed to be 1.0ohm but ended up being .89)





Once juiced up, I only filled the tank with approx 1.5ml (just in case...and I'm glad I did). I started vapeing around 12-14w/ 3.5-4v. And it was freaking amazing! It tasted like a straight dab (not for the sneak vape lol) but wow so good! I even thought about thinning it out even more.....but I didn't lol.





Until the very end of the tank I may have turned up the watts a bit to much a couple times messing around and the last .25ml turned dark and tasted like shit! Well fuck!



So at this point I went ahead and took it apart to see what happened. At first it looked like there was resin on it, definitely gunked up, but when I went to pull the wick out it broke in half and was black in the middle ( the picture looks like the entire Wick is black but once I pulled it out it was just black inside the coil and darker brown towards the ends). I think I had the wick too snug and it couldn't wick fast enough or something. I also was so paranoid about leaking I didn't want to turn the juice flow control all the way open every time, and I think that was also part of the issue. But of course would like to hear what you all think.

Side note:
I do like the Goblin mini v3 so far, and unlike some reviews on YouTube my JFC does close off all the way....and that's nice because it lessens the chance for a leak when not in use.




So next I plan on trying an even smaller amount of juice with less cotton. I'm also about to order some SS wire because I want to use TC in the future. I know that people have been talking about how important it is in previous posts. Also, the clapton build might not be the best, however I was just hoping it would help with flavor.

Till next time....

 

[Deleted Member 1643]

Wow, that is nasty! Did you keep the switch closed for a long draw? That's where TC helps. Can you drip with this? You won't need to drip that frequently. IME, flavor degrades in the tank.

 

[Dabuisnez]

Hey all! So here is yet another experiment (my first). As you recall I ordered a Pico kit and a goblin mini v3. So for my first test I made a batch of 1:2 (1g of gorilla glue #4 70%thc budder:2ml of regular WL). It was such a nice golden color and had a great smell and taste! I started with a .89ohm clapton (pre-made 26ga/32ga supposed to be 1.0ohm but ended up being .89)





Once juiced up, I only filled the tank with approx 1.5ml (just in case...and I'm glad I did). I started vapeing around 12-14w/ 3.5-4v. And it was freaking amazing! It tasted like a straight dab (not for the sneak vape lol) but wow so good! I even thought about thinning it out even more.....but I didn't lol.





Until the very end of the tank I may have turned up the watts a bit to much a couple times messing around and the last .25ml turned dark and tasted like shit! Well fuck!



So at this point I went ahead and took it apart to see what happened. At first it looked like there was resin on it, definitely gunked up, but when I went to pull the wick out it broke in half and was black in the middle ( the picture looks like the entire Wick is black but once I pulled it out it was just black inside the coil and darker brown towards the ends). I think I had the wick too snug and it couldn't wick fast enough or something. I also was so paranoid about leaking I didn't want to turn the juice flow control all the way open every time, and I think that was also part of the issue. But of course would like to hear what you all think.

Side note:
I do like the Goblin mini v3 so far, and unlike some reviews on YouTube my JFC does close off all the way....and that's nice because it lessens the chance for a leak when not in use.




So next I plan on trying an even smaller amount of juice with less cotton. I'm also about to order some SS wire because I want to use TC in the future. I know that people have been talking about how important it is in previous posts. Also, the clapton build might not be the best, however I was just hoping it would help with flavor.

Till next time....

First off congrats on your success. Here is key points we need. How long did that last you before it got bad. Also if vaping at lower temps i believe its possible to vape off more WL than concentrate leaving it behind to gunk up coils. Maybe try a higher watt.