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[VapourHaze]

When people are saying the vg makes the oil cloudy.. is it actually splitting or is it still fully emulsified at low ratios?

So my 1:4 ratio i found great ... still pretty potent i would say (from europe and looking for joint replacement strength. All my friends mix with tobacco so looking to help these guys out too ) Im trying it now at around 1:6 .. hard to tell how potent as im already high but seems good.

At 1:4 (im using 1:1 peg400 then pg to mix) i found flavour pretty oily and relatively pleasant albeit with a chemically sweet bite to it. At 1:6 the flavour is not as oily. Ive got some concentrated menthol flavouring and ive added a couple of drops. Really im looking to mask the taste of the peg with menthol but still have that hashy backround basenote.

 

[StheDubya]

Don't mean to be a broken record. You know that with vapeur you have an assortment of flavors along with 0 cloudiness right?

I don't understand why you would go through this much trouble and time. they are practically the same price..

IMO people can never get used to change, especially if something is better... you know i should do a video on this.

This little guy sums it all up right here

When people are saying the vg makes the oil cloudy.. is it actually splitting or is it still fully emulsified at low ratios?

So my 1:4 ratio i found great ... still pretty potent i would say (from europe and looking for joint replacement strength. All my friends mix with tobacco so looking to help these guys out too ) Im trying it now at around 1:6 .. hard to tell how potent as im already high but seems good.

At 1:4 (im using 1:1 peg400 then pg to mix) i found flavour pretty oily and relatively pleasant albeit with a chemically sweet bite to it. At 1:6 the flavour is not as oily. Ive got some concentrated menthol flavouring and ive added a couple of drops. Really im looking to mask the taste of the peg with menthol but still have that hashy backround basenote.

Concentrates and VG = oil and water. You can get it to mix some but it will split eventually.

I wouldn't mess with 1:6 unless you get high really really easy. Too weak. I would have to hit a 1:6 mix for an hour the get high.

Hows the menthol? I used to smoke menthol cigs but don't know if I would like it for my weed juice. Let us know.

 

[Gazan114]

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Concentrates and VG = oil and water. You can get it to mix some but it will split eventually.

I wouldn't mess with 1:6 unless you get high really really easy. Too weak. I would have to hit a 1:6 mix for an hour the get high.

Hows the menthol? I used to smoke menthol cigs but don't know if I would like it for my weed juice. Let us know.

i'm assumming the menthol question is to me. i haven't tried the menthol, i'm assuming with my experience with menthol cigerettes it just gives a mint / cold inhale of breathe??? I do'nt know how else to explain it lolllll

I'm a heavy toker i guess thats one of the main reasons why i enjoy it alot. i mean 2;1 is a really good hit.

 

[fogvalley]

@StheDubya you tried that vapeur mix? Or just agreeing with him an didn't understand fully his comment? On a side note amazon deleted that product.

 

[StheDubya]

Gazan, no the menthol question was not directed at you at all. Thanks

@StheDubya you tried that vapeur mix? Or just agreeing with him an didn't understand fully his comment? On a side note amazon deleted that product.

No I have no plans to try it at all. I was trying to be nice and only give him an eye roll. I only buy from companies I trust and I just don't trust them. If they were legit they would have started their business a little differently. As someone said a ways back, its a copycat product more or less. They didn't exist until the day Gazan posted his stellar reviews ALL OVER the web. Too fishy for me. Too many lies.

 

[VapourHaze]

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Concentrates and VG = oil and water. You can get it to mix some but it will split eventually.

I wouldn't mess with 1:6 unless you get high really really easy. Too weak. I would have to hit a 1:6 mix for an hour the get high.

Hows the menthol? I used to smoke menthol cigs but don't know if I would like it for my weed juice. Let us know.

Ok thanks i didnt realise one was water based and one oil based. Actually the 1:6 seems ok for me... maybe a little too long. I think 1:5 will be spot on. Im not looking for a heavy hitter, something where a few tokes will take the edge off. I think for most average uk consumers this will get you there. Dont forget where im from almost no one has access to oil unless they make it themselves. Most people think 'skunk' is soo strong it will make u psychotic!! Megalols. Also most people here mix their joints with baccy (yuk)

So actually in context 1:6 it is still quite potent. I actually would rather be able to enjoy a few more puffs on a weaker mix in general. The stealth aspect is the massive benefit where im from! However if your used to throwing boulders of shatter on a nail every 30 mins ... my mix wont do shit!!!

I like the menthol ... i was not sure about flavourings but it helps to mask the slight taste of the peg400. It has a menthol taste upfront which gives way to hashy exhale and a minty aftertaste. Obviously im mixing weaker so my mix will taste less hashy. I used dks concentrated menthol 4 drops to around 1.7ml. Personally i dont really want my vape tasting of chemical fruits or puddings so menthol suits me just great!

Also does your drip tip smell disgusting? Mine smells really wrong .. kind of fishy .. even with daily cleaning? Im not massively familiar with ecigs so dont know if this is common or if its the wejuice. Or its just mine (mini nautilus mini eleaf btw)

 

[fogvalley]

Mine stinks I could change my coil and that would help but I'm trying to get by till I get the temp control coils and my new mod I ordered. It's the way it wicks, IMO

 

[RollinCoal420]

What a thread!!! Perfect information and at perfect timing for me!! Jumped on the ecig band wagon a couple weeks back and quit smoking. I tried alittle mix with glycerin before I found this thread, and obviously had no luck. I was hitting every connection I knew for some weed juice (I live a heavily repressed state. Lol) and had no luck for an up coming trip..... Till I found this thread.

Knowing that I would not finish my way through this entire thread with time to do a qwiso run and get it juice bfore my trip, I overnighted a 15ml bottle of ejmix and ground up 9-10g of bud and the 2g of keif in. I put all my cards in the hat so to speak. Well, I fucked up and when the evap was almost through, I dumped it in the water!!! After a few bowls, I calmed down and decided that I learned THC is not water soluble so just evap it all out. My hot plate won't boil the water, just get it hot enough to simmer.

Well it worked and cleaned the pan out with iso then filtered it out and evaped it out again. I thought I lost it all. Granted I probably lost a lot of it, and probably some potency because the pan ran dry just before I made it back to check on it, but I ended up with right around a light gram. And it went right in the ejmix like a champ. Did me right yesterday on my trip.

I will be ordering a bottle of puff manic this week for the flavor aspect. Not sure what I taste, but the kids and a person at work both thought it was cotton candy. Not me. But puff manic will b my next order.

I used this with a dripper as I didn't make it far enough through the thread at the time, next time I'm at a vape shop I'll probably look into a Delta 2. Unless there are some other recommendation as it was hard for me to keep up with all the opinions in this thread.

I just really got one question so far.

How exactly are you guys getting 1g into 1ml, or even .5? In a shot glass, 1ml is barely enough to wet the entire bottom. (Thats 31ish drops, 1 dropper). I need atleast 2 droppers to cover my ball of concentrate, and thats in a little glass ejuice bottle.

 

[macbill]

How exactly are you guys getting 1g into 1ml

I've only mixed once.

I heated the shot glass. I put it in a pan of water, prob around 190 F. I used 1 gram of shatter and 35 drops of ej, and stirred until mostly dissolved, and then started my 5 minutes of stirring as per instructions. Probably overkill. Mixed up fine and I placed it in a clearo I bought on Ebay. I found it too strong mj-wise, so I opened up the clearo after a few days and added 1 ml +/- in of Puff Majic "clove". I've been hitting that up, but still too "cough-y", and as the level allowed, after a few more days, I added another 1 ml +/- PMajic and it's hitting fine. 3 units ej + Pm to 1 gram of shatter.

 

[fogvalley]

I add 3-4 ml per 1/8 of starting material. Just how I do it, my tank is too big to do 1:1. I want a full tank for every 1/8. Strong enough for me. I think any device works some better then others.

I tried the 70/30 flavor mix and did it 1ml ej ~>1 gr and 3 ml 70/30. It was again bit cloudy but it wicked better then I have had yet. Still got some playing to do, but this last run tasted oh so good and worked just fine but I wouldn't mix more then a g at time this way. I can deal with cloudy if it wicks like real ejuice.

 

[GuyLeDuche]

I put 1-2ml in a small glass container and warm in the microwave for 2 5sec intervals, then drop in the oil. The Ej is usually warm enough already to start to work, if not give it 5sec more and stir.

 

[RollinCoal420]

Thanks. So basically, 1/1, even if the concentrate isnt fully submerged, it will eventually work its way down to full saturation?

Really, I think 1/1 would b a bit to heavy for me, mainly because i like to share when people are willing as not many of my friends partake in 420 activities, so I'm excited when they do and hate when they take 2 hits of my bud and are so stupid high they don't enjoy it. I dont mind taking a couple extra pulls to keep it where my girl can take 2 or so and b in a good place. I could always take a few big rips off a dripper if I need more volume.

The dripper hits good, but as stated, doesnt seem to wick well in my experience. Today I started using a little aspire clearomiser thing, about the size of an ego. It doesnt seem to hit hard enough like the dripper. I use an isub tank on my nic juice, seems to be set up similar to the delta and sub ohm tanks. Do any of the sub ohm tanks have small tanks, like less than 3ml?

 

[macbill]

it will eventually work its way down to full saturation?

Yes. If you can, break the concentrate up; flatten it; etc. It will melt faster.

 

[StheDubya]

Heres my method I have come up with after a bunch of runs. I use a pyrex 4 cup measure with about a cup of water. It goes in the microwave for two minutes. I mix my stuff in the little starter kit jars. Lately I put my concentrate in the jar and prewarm that and my bottle of majic for a couple minutes. It melts the stuff some and the liquid is nice and warm and ready to go. Then I pull them out and microwave the water for 2 more minutes while I am adding my liquid to the jar. Set the jar of concentrates and liquid in for a minute or two and then stir. Makes it go fast doesn't matter if its a large or small run.

The ratio I have decided is perfect for my tanks is 2.5 Puff Majic to 1 concentrate. Seems to be the right mix for strength and thickness. Too thick just causes problems in tank setups. At 2.5 I don't have really any dry hit problems or burnt taste. Im using both Aspire K1 and Kanger Aerotank mini in my rotation

 

[fogvalley]

I have had good and bad runs. Done 10-15 now. Some runs wick too good almost and others suck ass, I deal with it because I have no choice as this will be my method of vaping for a long time. I will say with the learning curve I am going through to get good flavor I have been in a good state mind the whole time. I want a stainless steel shot glass. Right now I use my French press to wash my nugg, then it's filtered into a pickle jar frozen and refiltered back into French press poor it out onto Pyrex pie plate, stick it in my dehydrator for 2 hours at 110f until dry. Scape and back into my French press with some warming ej&flavor on the stove in a sauce pan, stir until mixxed or boiling and then cut heat and stir somemore. I tip the French press up or I'd barley cover the bottom on my runs. Lol wish that sucker was full and I needed a ladle to stir that shit

 

[RollinCoal420]

Has anyone with a high tolerance found this to be more conservative with herd over conventional smoking?

I would normally smoke through a 1/2oz in just under 2 weeks pretty much out of my dug out. I lived by that thing. 4-6 hits and I'm solid. Ive been vaping the past 2 days, trying to combust as little as possible, down to 2 small bowls a day, but when this juice only nets me 2-3ml / 7gr of herb, its not turning out to be very cost effective.

I took about 5 tokes from my dug out this morning on the way into work, and altho I got put in the perfect place, my lungs reconfirmed that is can't keep smoking. Would something like a firewood fit the bill better and weed juice or other concentrates to fill the gaps?

 

[GuyLeDuche]

Sounds like you are in about the same place as me, smoked about a gram a day. After trying all the new electronic tech I find the e-cig stuff to be very nice for out and about puffs, but not likely to get me seriously medicated. The cheapest solution for me to tick all the boxes ended up being a Vaporgenie. "Smokes" like a pipe, no battery to worry about, vaping herb is better than burning, cheap cost of entry (under $60), and I make stuff with the ABV. Also able to use it with every form of concentrate with the right tech.

IMO making juice from herb isn't really cost effective, but I live in WA and am spoiled with choices so I feel for those without options. I'd be curious what kind of yields ppl are getting by washing nug, and was it QWISO or QWET? Personally I've been playing with rosin and I'm wondering how it would work for the job? I usually get about 1g clean oil from 1/4oz, then if I QWISO the chips I'll get another .5-1g.

 

[RollinCoal420]

I never really got an exact weight yet from my qwiso or qwet. It comes out in the close ball park of 1g from 1/4oz of nugs. Thats combining both first and second washes. I'm still trying to iron out the kinks in my make shift kitchen and my process. But each time things get cleaner and easier.

Right now I need the most work on harvesting after the evap. I think that's where I spend the most time frustrated. Basically as I scrape, I dump into the ejmix. As my scraping utensil gets full I dump into ejmix and repeat. Lol. Not very efficient.

I believe I may pick up an oz of some mids and wash the whole thing down and see what kinds place that puts me in

 

[GuyLeDuche]

Yea collecting can be a lot of labor. My QWISO is usually ABV or rosin chips so I just evap it dry and add some coconut oil to make topicals. For vaping I would evap in a 2 cup pyrex measuring cup in front of a fan until most of the ISO is gone then suck it up with a wide bore syringe (or just pour it) and dump it in a shot glass (Rinse the measuring cup with a little fresh ISO if needed) then evap the shot glass and add Ej to it.

Make sure to pre-wet your filters with ISO to increase yield, or wash all the oil out of old ones lol

 

[fogvalley]

I normally run 1/8 and get .5-1g with wash 1,2. Qwet. I smoke almost an1/8 day before this. Now 3-4 days to a week depending on the run for all of this. I live in a very strict state the waxes we get here are outrageous to me, 100+/g. That maybe a bit more then I get at 100 1/4, but I have had 1/4 drop 2g and .65g. So its probably even over time. I don't mind running my own, and I'm quite happy with my potency. I just struggle to get maximum flavor with no clouding or wicking issues. My delta 2 wicked everything till my last run, and my dripper has stuggled to wick, this last one is the exact opposite. I do prefer to sub ohm my wejuice, I never have issues not getting where I wanna be with my rigs.

 

[RollinCoal420]

I use an ISub for my nic juice and I really like the way it hits. It hits big and smooth easily. I pick up an Arctic sub tank just for my weedjuice hoping it would hit like the iSub with nic juice. It don't. Hits good, but I gotta try harder. Is that because of the thickness of the juice, or does it have anything to do with the glycerin in the nic juice?

 

[fogvalley]

Idk for sure, my nic is max vg, and wejuice is max pg but I'm thinning mine out more then called for. But still have some wicking issues, but not every run I do my first bottle of ej is almost gone now.but I'd guess half wicked like nic juice, the other half I would try to flood my atomizer before hitting it. I did order a temp control mod so this will eliminate dry hits, and let me pull hard without fear. I can say the worse my runs look the crappier they wick most of the time. There just doesn't seem to be many people staying with this method, and the tech changes so rapidly it's hard to get a good answer, subohm tanks came out about Christmas last year, not many folks smoking weed in them, but I am a definite test subject. This is so far from perfect and yet so close at the same time IMO.

 

[fogvalley]

I orderd some blue puff majic. Where does it ship from?

 

[StheDubya]

I orderd some blue puff majic. Where does it ship from?

They ship out of Oregon. Super fast shippers. I live one state over and have literally had it next day if I order really early in the am.

Has anyone with a high tolerance found this to be more conservative with herd over conventional smoking?

I would normally smoke through a 1/2oz in just under 2 weeks pretty much out of my dug out. I lived by that thing. 4-6 hits and I'm solid. Ive been vaping the past 2 days, trying to combust as little as possible, down to 2 small bowls a day, but when this juice only nets me 2-3ml / 7gr of herb, its not turning out to be very cost effective.

I took about 5 tokes from my dug out this morning on the way into work, and altho I got put in the perfect place, my lungs reconfirmed that is can't keep smoking. Would something like a firewood fit the bill better and weed juice or other concentrates to fill the gaps?

I was about 1 to 1 1/2 oz per month. Went up to 2ish when I switched to a herbal vape. Now that Im using the juice I go through 2 to 3 grams of wax/shatter/whatever about every month. Im saving some money for sure. Probably about half. Fortunately I have tons of sources for high strength quality extracts to put in it. You got 1 gram out of a 1/4 and that sounds pretty decent really. Id be happy with that. But if you don't know the thc level theres no way to predict how strong your juice will be. I make a decent strength juice, start my day with 2-3 pulls and maintain my buzz with pull every so often. I can make a fill up last about a week.

 

[fogvalley]

Thanks man for the info. I hope I like it even better then the ej. I'm digging the 120ml bottle option. If the flavors decent which is your guys favorite puff majic flav?