MiniVAP Vaporizer

vorrange

Vapor.wise
Edit: Yes, you said it much better. I wouldn't call the hits 'wispy' on green, but compared to the Cloud they aren't 'thick'.

I was hitting the vaporbrothers all morning waiting for the the MV and didn't feel much at all. I was pulling huge clouds through the vaporbrothers too. MV arrived in the afternoon and one bowl put me on the floor, but with thinner vapor and lighter ABV. I don't get it and am probably over thinking it.

I can't post in this state, too medicated to keep a thought.

Milky vapor is usually a little harsher and less "pure" than blue vapour.. also, milky vapour has more particulates flying so its harsher, and it's formed in higher temperatures.
I'm forgetting the more scientific explanation right now, but i know i read it countless times here at FC. It seems like this is the most likely explanation.

EDIT: Lighter ABV can also be explained by less conduction, provided the temps are the same.
 

justcametomind

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IIRC Someone earlier on the thread said that the new bowl will add a little conduction too. So maybe we'll have darker ABV if we like to. If this will mean even better extraction I can't imagine how high you could get with a MV in the near future.. Watching the accessory page everyday since one week but no new accessory packs still. I can't wait to order some new screens mine are dirty as hell and I'm too last to clean them now. Also my mouthpiece is coveder by a thick layer of wand hash :D as well as the cone.i cleaned the cone a couple of times because the amount of resin afflicted the airflow
 
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Roger D

Vapor Wizard
That is the decarbox ring. Produces a darker avb, but extraction and taste suffers imo. It's more harsh with the herbs, kinda frying them. Huge clouds of course
 
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m0sh

Singer Song Writer Stoner
It seems like even if I wanted a mini-vap - there's no option to ship it to my country... :(
 
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pecosthecat

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I've no interest in the decarbox ring for the MV. I'm not sure why anybody would actually want it. To me the beauty of this unit is that it is a high powered battery operated convection vaporizer. Because of this the taste is outstanding and there is very little, if any, waste. The load is only heated when actively inhaling.

I still need to take some time to write a review. The problem is every time I plan to take notes while using this thing I end up getting extremely high and then get side tracked.
 

Hoops

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I was completely incoherent last night using this thing. Although, I'm not sure why. I've been using it all day today with good results...but I'm at least functional.

Aesthetics - Build quality is solid and reminds me of an elongated Solo. The 'two stacked red bull cans' analogy to describe the size is a good one. If you were to procure the PA and use the MV wired, it would be about an inch taller than my UD twig, but a little thinner. It's smaller overall than I had imagined...again, usually the case with me, photos and sizes. Pictures always throw me off on size estimates, pleasantly in this case. The package ordered through the MV website came with a small camera bag at around 8" x 6" x 4", with everything packed neatly inside. Tight fit, but there's a spot for everything, which is convenient.

Function - The first thing I did was check the battery, which was fully charged. There is a charging light on the power brick that notify's you of when the battery is done charging. Green is good to go, red is 'charging'. I then used one of the small 6" silicone tubes that came with the vape to join the MV with the 65t with good results. Temp set to green provided an extremely smooth and thick vapor through water, very pleasant. I really prefer a little punch behind my pulls, make me cough, I expect it. But the MV seems to deliver actives in a smoother fashion than I'm used to. I'm able to medicate to the same level as I normally would...but almost without knowing it. The vapor is so smooth, it feels like air.

The real reason I bought the MV is because I haven't really found a vape that can keep up with my long draws. I 'temp out' just about all other heaters through water short of the Cloud...making the Cloud the golden standard to which I compare just about everything. (Not fair in any way, I know) The good thing is the MV keeps up, no problem. As long as I'm pulling and there's vapor to be extracted, it's extracting, no lose in performance. The experience is only reduced slightly by the draw resistance created by the tip of the cone and mouthpiece and most likely for a reason. Do not be turned off by me saying there is resistance, it is minimal, although quite noticeable through water.

ABV is light in color, similar to my Cloud ABV, but more consistent throughout. It's impressive when you really look at it, no dark or green, just uniform brown throughout, no stirring.

After my initial 24 hours, I'm happy with the purchase and feel that I now have the 'best' portable for me, period. Whether the cost is worth it or not is dependent on the individual as it will differ for everyone.

The only negatives I can find so far:

The charger comes with a NA adapter that fell apart in my hands when I tried to use it. (Cheap $5 adapter) The end that plugs into the power brick is a standard size though, so I used a cable I had on hand from the outlet to the power brick. No big deal. I even fixed the adapter, so it could be used if I wanted to, but there is no need.

I can't get the unit to heat up to a solid red. It will flash red forever and then goes into standby....I believe someone else had this problem. I'll have to go back and re-read the thread again and/or reach out to Sebastian at MV. Good experiences with communication by the way, nice guy.

Conclusion: To me, it's the portable I have been looking for. Far from stealthy, it most likely stays in the hotel room or in the car, used in the living room for easy passing when we have company. Not going to replace the Cloud, but I agree with JCat and Roger on the information provided so far. Very accurate...thank you both and the rest of the community for helping me take the plunge.

But.........I'm already eyeing a second Cloud to tide me over while my first is being repaired/upgraded. Can the MV tide me over and save me the money and a little bit of shame? We shall see.
 

Nbajunkie

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Ive had minor issues ,not problems with my mv. Atleast once a day the unit just shut off on me,out of no where.Eh,thats electronics and its usually after a 1/2 hr of running it straight.And the white cone I was sent is like bulging on the top side,where I insert the straw. Like it wasnt molded right. That makes the seal for my straw weak doesnt effect the vapors. But a pain..Im going to take pictures and email mv.
Side note, dropped my basked one town over at the local bar, Realized this when I got home and drove back for it! yes mv is a big deal.And more baskets are must...Also the side pocket on the mv bag is perfect for a grinder...
 

JCat

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Accessory Maker
I can't get the unit to heat up to a solid red. It will flash red forever and then goes into standby....I believe someone else had this problem.
Glad your happy with your purchase Hoops! I agree ... it is truly the only other vaporizer apart from the Cloud I've owned that competes and can keep up regardless of draw speed.

As for the red ... mine did this initially, and I find the fix is to first let it heat to green, then up to red and it goes solid in another few minutes (at which point I usually turn back down to green where I leave it ... or pink for non-water conditioned vapor to start)
 

Hoops

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I find the fix is to first let it heat to green, then up to red and it goes solid in another few minutes

Yep, that did it, Thank you! I know you guys like the green, but Red is where it's at for me. Just ran a basket on Red and it's a game changer. A little rough, but... woohoo, it's cloudy in here!
 
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justcametomind

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So how many members do we have with this thing? I went back about six or seven pages and it looks like no more than ten. Does anyone NOT like it yet?
I think your numbers are correct. Maybe we are 6/7 with a unit and an account here.
No haters still. Everyone loves the MV so far.
 
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JCat

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Accessory Maker
Yep, that did it, Thank you! I know you guys like the green, but Red is where it's at for me. Just ran a basket on Red and it's a game changer. A little rough, but... woohoo, it's cloudy in here!
Hey Hoops ... I don't use the basket (I load right in the chamber and find I get better results). The other big thing for me to get good clouds is I first preheat to red (using the green then red process), then once it reaches red, I turn back to green and leave it there. I find first heating it to red gets the bigger clouds I'm after same thing as if I let the unit sit and heat for >30 minutes on green (ie. a quicker way to get it warmed up ... I don't find it hits at full temp when it first reaches green ... you have to either preheat to red and let your inhales cool it back to green or let it heat at green for a really long time to get full performance)

I actually, when hitting it dry, like to preheat to red then turn down to pink to hit (use a small piece of silicone to connect to a glass straw ... the balloon glass stems that come with the Extreme Q ... this is my preferred dry method ... much better than with longer silicone piece or than with the stock supplied stems)
 

Nbajunkie

Someones always watching..
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This is my mv issue with the cone. On the top left side where the straw is inserted you can see its not even with the other side, Its like its bulging. Im sorry for the bad picture.I know its very hard to see with such a crappy camera.I emailed mv directly but couldn't even upload the photo...frustrating. Maybe Sergio checks the forum?Nah..Im anxious for his reply cause t -
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his cone is a pain in the ass.
 
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Nbajunkie

Someones always watching..
Thanks Roger, sorry about the close ups...UGh...Close ups make me uneasy ...And thats 70% of television nowadays Especially reality tv..And speaking of tv why do tv shows still use laughtracks for jokes?I dont need to be reminded when to laugh...
 
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Hoops

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Now that me and the MV are friends, we spent the weekend getting to know each other. Followed JCat's advise on the warm up procedure and after trying it multiple times, it's most likely the process I will follow as well moving forward. At that mid Green/Red area this unit provides vapor comparable to the Cloud. Thick, tasty, dense vapor.....for as long as I can pull.

I did not want to be an MV fanboy. I can't help it though, this thing kicks ass and deserves the recognition. It does take quite a bit of time to reach temp, but I'm ok with that when matched against the functionality.

A few questions:

1. Can I put the unit on the charger when it is on? Roger said do not charge it while in use....is this the same as 'On'?

2. Anyone hear from the manufacturer on whether using loose leaf without the basket is ok? Seems easy enough to clean and I prefer the operations without the basket. Its surprising how much more material can be used without the basket it in one cycle. (The quick start guide says the basket is for loose leaf materials)

3. Are we ok to operate the unit upside down? Roger mentioned it got hotter in that orientation.

I can reach out to MV and ask these questions, figured I started here though. Thanks! (I think this puppy will hold me over fine for a month or two while the Cloud is repaired. Depending on how the Cloud operates upon return with the new design, the MV could possibly completely fill it's place putting Cloud at number 2 for me. I don't expect this to be the case, but it's entire possible. The MV is that good and gets better the more I understand it.)
 

Nbajunkie

Someones always watching..
@hoops,How can we be fanboys ,when there is only 10 People on this forum who own a mv...?
You either like a product or not. Ive yet to come across a negative review for mv
 

JCat

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Accessory Maker
You don't need to use the basket for LL ... the original instructions (when I first got it ) on the MV site said the basket was for kief and hash, the pad for full melt concentrates (oils, wax, budder, ...), and nothing for loose leaf ... just load her up! I've only used the basked a couple times as I prefer without (also prefer the load size without the basket of about .15-.2 avg)
 
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Roger D

Vapor Wizard
Now that me and the MV are friends, we spent the weekend getting to know each other. Followed JCat's advise on the warm up procedure and after trying it multiple times, it's most likely the process I will follow as well moving forward. At that mid Green/Red area this unit provides vapor comparable to the Cloud. Thick, tasty, dense vapor.....for as long as I can pull.

I did not want to be an MV fanboy. I can't help it though, this thing kicks ass and deserves the recognition. It does take quite a bit of time to reach temp, but I'm ok with that when matched against the functionality.

A few questions:

1. Can I put the unit on the charger when it is on? Roger said do not charge it while in use....is this the same as 'On'?

2. Anyone hear from the manufacturer on whether using loose leaf without the basket is ok? Seems easy enough to clean and I prefer the operations without the basket. Its surprising how much more material can be used without the basket it in one cycle. (The quick start guide says the basket is for loose leaf materials)

3. Are we ok to operate the unit upside down? Roger mentioned it got hotter in that orientation.

I can reach out to MV and ask these questions, figured I started here though. Thanks! (I think this puppy will hold me over fine for a month or two while the Cloud is repaired. Depending on how the Cloud operates upon return with the new design, the MV could possibly completely fill it's place putting Cloud at number 2 for me. I don't expect this to be the case, but it's entire possible. The MV is that good and gets better the more I understand it.)

Already hooked lol. How could you not love it is the question :p

1. No, Yes

2. Should be ok, basket is officially recommended for easier maintenance.

3. Yes
 
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Hoops

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@hoops,How can we be fanboys ,when there is only 10 People on this forum who own a mv...?
You either like a product or not. Ive yet to come across a negative review for mv

Hmm, that didn't come off right, nor was it my intent to imply anyone else has 'jumped on the fanboy bandwagon' in that way. My sincere apologies as I can see where that sounded condescending, I have fixed. Not my intentions to be a prick.

I instead am trying to play devils advocate in pointing out possible 'negatives', but I'm finding my comments to be knit-picky and pretty much a rehash of what other members already said earlier in the thread. The only thing I can say negatively is the extended warm up times required to reach a higher temp. It's taking me about 15-20 minutes to warm to red and then back down to green. Sometimes it will still flash at red all the way to standby mode, but will re-heat to red after that pretty quickly. This is regardless of whether I heat to green prior to going to red or not. If I don't watch the temp light, it'll go into standby and I'll have to re-heat. It'll reach temp faster from standby, but again, I have to watch it.

The Minivap has exceeded expectations on so many levels, I wouldn't care if it took an hour to warm up (which I have done by not watching)...but someone else may.

I am however comparing this portable to the Cloud plug in, which isn't fair, but it's the only vaporizer I know that is even remotely comparable. The Cloud provides better airflow, can be on for as long as you want it (Wemo) and comes with glass HT at almost the same prices as the MV without glass. I also find it a little easier to load. The MV is a portable powerhouse, runs cooler, amazing flavor, dense vapor when wanted and a developed business model. I love them both, but had experienced 'amazing' with the Cloud prior to buying the MV. The MV is capable of providing the same thick, consistent dense vapor as the Cloud. I didn't think it was possible for a portable, but it truly does provide Cloud like vapor, for as long as you draw.

You can safely say there are still no negative reviews in any way.

NBA - You were the final reviewer before I sent payment for one myself. The information you and others provided was very accurate and meets my needs perfectly. I appreciate what you've done to support the product, the community and me. Thank you. Please accept my apologies for implying anything other than my own opinions. Which are simply opinions in the end.

You can guarantee there's a few legacy members here thinking, "it can't be that good". It is guys.
 

Hoops

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Seasoned for my neck of the woods sure, but not compared against the members on this forum. :bowdown:

Thank you NBA!
 
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