MiniVAP Vaporizer

Mulehead

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I really want to love and keep this vape!

Then pick up the a/c puck brother.
This is a plug in device with the ability to walk around the house with IMHO.
I tried using my MV as my daily portable, but it's just too much kit to roll with.
The modular design with battery/puck options is revolutionary IMO, but to rely strictly on battery your missing some of the whole experience.
Trust us, you'll dig it.
 

biohacker

H.R.E.A.M
Thanks man! I believe you, but before I invest in the high cost a/c puck (I find the pricing on accessories high in addition to the vape) I need to really dig this vape first.

I forgot to add...don't sweat the button blinking during or after a hit. All it's letting us know is that it is stabilizing the temp like any vape does when you draw on it. The temp doesn't drop more than a few degrees C with the strongest of draws. Just relax and don't overthink it...enjoy the session like only the MV can deliver!

This makes sense! Even after "lowering" temp I noticed much blinking.

Looking forward to proper testing/demo with Lazylathe on Sunday!
 

abcd5432

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@abcd5432 This is what the Delrin adapter we are talking about looks like. Slips over the lid and fits flush and pretty much air tight. You should obtain one post haste regardless of hitting the MV dry or with water.

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How do I get this adapter, or any of the adapters that would let me use with a bubbler/bong?
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(How does this not tip over? This seems like it'd be perfect for my bong I posted earlier.)

Even this wouldn't be bad:
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I guess I'm going down the minivap rabbithole, because I'm definitely not satisfied. I mean, I am. Don't get me wrong, but I need more now! My 16 inch bong is too big for me to clear, and the hits still feel too hot. So not only do I need a new bong, but I need it to be more convenient to use.
 
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biohacker

H.R.E.A.M
Not sure where the delrin comes from (probably Sticks) but @Ratchett sells a SonG for the MV as well! Otherwise the one pic looks like his "universal" adapter that I use for my Mighty.
 

MinnBobber

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@MinnBobber Have you received the new core update?
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Yes, I got the "fix" from @stickstones . My Teflon core mV was starting to fade/ temps too low. Hermes Med had some cores that tested fine BUT when installed they all had a weak spot that failed over time.
sticks replaced the core and firmware update and she's kickin' it now. Mucho primo now. Now, even on blue it gets an almost blue/almost invisible vapor that's mighty potent. And going up the temp steps it gets even better.

Be patient as I believe you are only using the worthless , piece of shit, good for nothing SOLID plastic cone, and not the wonderful, best thing since sliced bread Flexicone. ;)
With the Flexicone there are about a hundred ways to use it so experiment :)

I think @lazylathe has a sweet VXL hydratube which is an excellent excellent combo.
Some bubblers to try too??
Have him bring whatever misc items like: @Ratchett mV Song, and Delrin adapter (V1 orig and V2 bigger better fit), @Ratchett small universal silicone tip which allows water connection like in your pic, stickstones/ Ed's WONG wood mouthpiece/ water piece adpater.
any glass mouthpieces like from Oregon Glass Blower, etc.

Just me but I never totally trust a "hands free" inverted vape/glass connection like you seem to want.
Been there, done that: tall and tippy-especially with heavy battery up high (vs short light AC puck).
 
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abcd5432

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Just cleaned my minivap. Almost unusuable now. I'm getting so many hits and such big vapor clouds my lungs can't handle it. The smallest packs last extremely long.

I've found that if you stir your pack after you pack it, it hits amazing.

Edit:
Hands free portion is only while hitting. Will not rest like that. Right now I cradle my bong in such an awkward fashion that I've developed a bruise on my chin.

It rests in the charger so it can be used lol.
 
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biohacker

H.R.E.A.M
Be patient as I believe you are only using the worthless , piece of shit, good for nothing SOLID plastic cone, and not the wonderful, best thing since sliced bread Flexicone. ;)
With the Flexicone there are about a hundred ways to use it so experiment :)

I think this is it brother! I had to cut testing short last night due to frustration. I did get a massive hit on green, but results are super inconsistent using that plastic cone because the seal sucks. The warmup time is still somewhat bothersome because it's just so damn long, but i'm ignoring it since i'll be buying the puck if I decide the MV is a keeper. I just read a post in the Mighty thread that his MV heatup time is 2 mins? Assuming that is with the puck and to temp blue only? I could deal with 2-5 mins, but 8-10 is excruciating. Especially when my wife makes fun of me waiting, while she's ripping her Mighty in less than 90 seconds, at whatever digitally precise temp she wants.

So, the MV is tucked away until @lazylathe arrives on Sunday and converts me! It's been a bad VAS run recently.... herbalizer, Grasshopper, Alfa, and now potentially MV..... all on the chopping block!

The member in the other thread also indicated an odd taste after the update? Wonder if that is the "too hot on red" taste...combustion notes...which is to be expected at 235c i think?
 
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cleanvape81

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I have just received my miniVAP back from hermes. It has been fitted with a new glass core and I am totally happy with the work done. I must say jorge has been great in fixing my unit. The company has improved in all areas and now I am a 100% happy customer. My unit is now giving me tasty cloudy vapour which is top quality. Thanks to all at hermes.
 

biohacker

H.R.E.A.M
I think that the battery may not be fully charged when the brick led turns green. I left the battery on the charger over night, and re-timed warm up speeds.

To green on FULL battery - just under 6 mins

Then I recharged it back to full battery

and RED took just under 10 mins!

Does this sound right for the battery and heatup speeds for the new core/firmware update?

Can't wait to test the flexicone tomorrow with @lazylathe ! Stoked!
 
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MinnBobber

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I just read a post in the Mighty thread that his MV heatup time is 2 mins?
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?? That seems very optimistic, even to blue ?? With puck on my updated mV but starting at overnight cool to 62 F start: Green @ 6 mins 40 secs, Red + 1 minute

@biohacker , for your LL testing here are some things to consider on the mV to Mighty comparison IMO:
Note that there is no "BEST VAPE" as wants/needs vary by each person but here are things I consider when comparing, no particular order but CAPS FOR VERY IMPORTANT. My pick and comments
AND, I love the Mighty as I'd say it's a top 5 or maybe even top 3 in my book !!

1. Quality overall look of the unit.
clearly miniVAP as quality aluminum construction and nice finish.
Mighty- plastic/composite albeit high grade plastic/composite. No disrespect but I've always thought it looks like a portable air pump for bike tires---If stopped by LEO, try that excuse!

2. Quality feel of unit in hand
mV- nice heavy quality feel
Mighty- finned plastic unit with a nice looking display though

3.TASTE !!!: I much prefer taste of miniVAP, even comparing 410 F on Mighty to 445 on mV. Probably a function of full convection vs hybrid Mighty. Mighty is not far off though.

4. CONVECTION vs Conduction. miniVAP convection which I almost always prefer. Note the Mighty does an admirable job of taste etc for a hybrid.

5. EFFICIENCY !!!! Full convection and basket system also very very efficient use with max effects with minimal herb. Very important for me as I have meager stash which has to laaast.
miniVAP is more efficient unit

6.Cleaning required. Opposite ends of the spectrum here with almost zero cleaning needed on mV where Mighty has much cleaning needed with its CU.

7. Temp control: Mighty fully adjustable to any temp is nice feature which I'd like to have but not necessary as mV 4 heats have got you covered. See #8

8. Temp range: miniVAP goes to 445 F. Mighty only to 410 F. Much prefer ability to go to 445 F when desired- note:still no popcorn taste at 445. I do wonder why S&B didn't give much higher temp, popcorn taste or charring from conduction element?

9. Versatility of AC or portable. miniVAP. Love this as it's like having 2 vapes in one. Plus, you can warm up on AC and then slip on battery and wander: convenient and this extends the already huge battery time. Using AC more and more as its so lightweight and small unit with it.

10. Ease to pair with bubbler. mV needs no accessories as you can invert Flexicone into bubbler and invert mV. OF course, many other bubbler options/connections are available.
Mighty with either of Ratchett's Songs works fine or muzzmod.

11. Ease to pair with hydartube. mV needs no accessories, just Flexicone, but you can use other options also.
Mighty with Songs or muzzmod.

12. Vapor coolness. Mighty with Cooling Unit (CU) is great. miniVAP -rating depends on which straight draw method from stock 2" mouthpiece to stock 6" whip to accessory OGB glass mouthpiece which equals CU level etc

13. Portability- Mighty is better to carry conceal. Note that mV when broken into 2 pieces is easier to carry/hide. Note: awaiting the release of mV small battery option which they are researching /developing

14. Battery life. miniVAP approx 2X of Mighty. Mighty has very satisfactory batt life though.

15. Ability to move load mid-session to another piece. I often do this to compare taste or use a different piece. Only miniVAP allows one to easily do this. 3 seconds to move Flexicone

16.Allows use of extra batteries and user replaceable battery. Only miniVAP, purchase from Hermes, not aftermarket option

17. Service from company. I can only speak for US/ North America but miniVAP service with addition of @stickstones is now top notch! US S&B seems inconsistent?

18. Reliability structure- mV is a tank. Mighty, even revised, seems to have some issues with fins etc.

19. Reliability of actual function. I'd say previously a tie with both having issues but now the nod goes to miniVAP as faulty heaters seem to be in the past. Mighty seems to be much better than the Crafty but still power button and firmware and lights of death issues

20. Ability to preload loads, like when out and about. Only miniVAP with Flexicone baskets. Some Mighty users need to also carry S&B loader when out too.

21. Stands easily by itself? miniVAP only. When I use a hydratube and remove it, I want the unit to stay standing. When I stack a delicate "layered load" in the Flexicone---I want it stay as crafted and not be dumped over on its side.

22. Ease to add degummed hemp filter to filter out tiny herbage pieces and keep them out of my throat and out of my glass reclaim oil. Fits right into miniVAP Flexicone cover

23. Display. Mighty has great, functional display. Love it

24. Comes with carrying case. Only miniVAP kit.

25. EASE OF LOADING every load. For me, the miniVAP Flexicones are just so much easier to load, being removable and self-contained. Mighty loading is just more cumbersome for me.

26. AUTO SHUT-OFF. Love the miniVAP 20 minute shutoff but actually wish it was longer.
Mighty 1 minute and now 2 minute shutoff sucks for my use pattern

27. Warm up time. Goes to Mighty but I work around it. With 20 minute mV auto shutoff, I just start it a few minutes ahead and IF I want a quick hit, Herbalizer is here for a 30 second session

Again, everyone has different priorities to picking a great vape.

Happy testing tomorrow
 
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biohacker

H.R.E.A.M
Thanks @MinnBobber for the great MV/Mighty comparison post! I was going to quote and reply to every point you mentioned, and still can if you want me to, but in the end for me the Mighty is the clear winner. Most of the show during our testing in the name of science sessions was actually stolen by the Supreme3 torch vape! Lazylathe tried my updated core MV, and was blown away by how much hotter it was than his! He also was surprised that it could not maintain temp with the constant blinking. I know Sticks put this to rest, but his MV holds temp and doesn't blink. His also feels very low temp....it's like his Red temp is the same as my purple, and maybe even blue. The temps are completely different, and so his tastes much better, but vapour output is also less.

The MV is just not for me.... the heatup speed does not fit my style, the airflow is poor IMO, and it's way too expensive IMO. It's definitely an awesome vape when it's dialed in, but I much preferred the Supreme3, so that's where my MV dollars are going to!

Thanks again @lazylathe for bringing over your MV and flexicones!
 

Smknbud

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The MV is just not for me.... the heatup speed does not fit my style, the airflow is poor IMO, and it's way too expensive IMO. It's definitely an awesome vape when it's dialed in, but I much preferred the Supreme3, so that's where my MV dollars are going to!

Thanks again @lazylathe for bringing over your MV and flexicones!

The heat up time of the MV I can see being a turnoff for some, it is one of its only negatives for me. The air flow is no better or worse than my Crafty. Both are significantly affected by how I pack it. Taste wise, the MV trumps the Crafty, not by a ton mind you, but I'd rather sit through the the heat up time to enjoy the MV tastiness over the Crafty any day.
$$$ wise I hear ya. No doubt it's in the price range that will turn many off. I wouldn't have purchased either, but back when I bought from VN it was 30% off which was sufficient to push me over the edge.

Torch based vapes? Not, nor ever, interested. That's personal of course. just don't want to be bothered with it I guess. I've looked at the vapcap, MFLB, Daisy etc....just doesn't do it for me. I've never understood the attraction.

One vape I pre-ordered last early August which I worry might make the MV play second fiddle will be the Zion. I'll also be on board for the FF2 for an on the go convection portable which may bump my Crafty to back up position.

Really though, having all these choices is what it really boils down to. We all end up gravitating one way or the other.
 

biohacker

H.R.E.A.M
The air flow is no better or worse than my Crafty.

Interesting, everyone is different.... for me it is beyond night and day. And I always PACK my Mighty, but with MV I use a loose load.

Torch based vapes? Not, nor ever, interested. That's personal of course. just don't want to be bothered with it I guess. I've looked at the vapcap, MFLB, Daisy etc....just doesn't do it for me. I've never understood the attraction.

I would have written that word for word before my experience yesterday with the SV3. Now, all i'm doing is scrambling researching the Vapcap and vapman! lol Not sure on their technologies...I don't want to inhale directly while the flame is hitting it, but with the SV3 you're just inhaling from the heated block. The torch is turned off during hits!

If I have time later I will expand much more on my feelings about the MV vs Mighty! Not sure if it's worth it though, based on everyone's opinions being so personal and different.
 

MinnBobber

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Interesting, everyone is different.... for me it is beyond night and day. And I always PACK my Mighty, but with MV I use a loose load. .....

For me, the draw resistance varies by the "final leg"-- what's the last element before your mouth. I usually start on lower temps with an OGB glass mouthpiece and finish with a hydratube. For me, with both those methods, I find the draw resistance to be no greater than a Mighty/Crafty with stock mouthpiece.

Everyone has different priorities but for me taste and efficiency and ease of loading/direct chamber loading is crude and unnecessary, point me the to the miniVAP.

Please report on the experiment when you have time. Did you get to try a hydratube, a bubbler, a nice long glass mouthpiece?

@lazylathe and @biohacker,
did the Flexicone module work in the Mighty? Could you use the Mighty with the Flexicone and no CU??
 

PPN

Volute of Vapor
Still the same price in the EU website..... if it's 70$ cheaper it is better for a european guys to buy on the minivap US website...even with international shipping!
 
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