MiniVAP Vaporizer

PPN

Volute of Vapor
MiniVap is still one of my favourite vaporizers, but with time, the restricted airflow bored me especially with a water tool.....that's why I use mine quasi only dry now, using the short mp at level pink or green.
I dream about a MV with the Cloud+ airflow...

Did the glass core units get a better airflow?

Is it possible to upgrade a teflon core unit to a glass core?

What about the 7 t° settings(IDK if "7" is the number of settings or the 7th upgrade....)?

Happy to see this thread to grow, when I posted here the first time there was only 40 pages and it was only a bit more than one year ago...
 
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JPB

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MiniVap is still one of my favourite vaporizers, but with time, the restricted airflow bored me especially with a water tool.....that's why I use mine quasi only dry now, using the short mp at level pink or green.
I dream about a MV with the Cloud+ airflow...

Did the glass core units get a better airflow?

Is it possible to upgrade a teflon core unit to a glass core?

What about the 7 t° settings(IDK if "7" is the number of settings or the 7th upgrade....)?

Happy to see this thread to grow, when I posted here the first time there was only 40 pages and it was only a bit more than one year ago...

Open up the base, two screws, new vaps have tamper proof ones. In the middle is a screen remove it clean it. Inside is another right at end of the little tube that sits on it and goes through hole in circuit board, clean that. In the chamber on top is two screens or one (depends on date of mfg) remove them and clean. Usually you need to remove the Teflon sleeve. It should breath better then.
 

Tab

Nerd
Did the glass core units get a better airflow?

Nope, compared yesterday. I had the feeling that the airflow is a bit more restricted in the gcmV...
The Unit is hotter as everybody knows here, thats why it doesn`t matter that much for me.
 
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Roger D

Vapor Wizard
@PPN You don't have to pull that much on the newer models. It's pretty much effortless compared to before. You currently have a lower temp MV that needs more effort to take a cloudy rip, it's completely update able, check with hermes.
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
All this talk about a glass herb holder got me thinking this past weekend... Dangerous times!! LOl!!

So I dug around the workshop a bit and found a glass test tube that fits in the Flexicone!!
Cut it shorter with a diamond disc and rounded the edges off.
The only issue is the lip is slightly too narrow and comes out easily from the flexicone, not a big issue for me!
I also molded a screen to fit in the end of the glass tube so I can use it with the lid on!
Still stays super clean inside!!

Flavour is still amazing and I now have the ability to vape whole nugs!!

Think I will rock this set up for a while! Will post some pics tonight!
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
Okay everyone!!! Here it is!!

The "on-the-cheap" glass chamber!
What you need is:
1 Boro test tube. Super cheap!
1 Mesh pipe screen

And a way to cut the glass tube...

So the pictures are taken after ;last nights session.
White Widow all on BLUE heat setting.
Look at that super even ABV!!!
Flavour was outstanding! Clouds bigger! Lasted a long time!!
I am also able to pack a lot more bud as it is basically the length of the internal chamber!
A bit less than if you packed directly.

The first picture is the assembled unit
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The second picture is with the Flexicone off. Notice how clean the screen stayed!
It is always much dirtier when using the baskets i find...
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And the last picture is of the whole kit disassembled.
This shows all the parts and the nice, even ABV!
Perfect for me on the BLUE heat setting!
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:science::lol::rofl::rockon:
Video will be done on the weekend...
 

lazylightning

It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
Given how many issues there are with miniVAPs, I really wish the repair process was handled more smoothly. I've been waiting for over 2 months now to get my mismatched silver core/black battery back. I've been very patient and polite with Hermes and have in fact been thanked for my patience a few times.

But after waiting 2 months and having all but one of my emails ignored, it starts to feel like they have very little respect for their customers. If I know what's going on, it makes me much more patient. Here's what I know about my repair at this point:

January 12 - Sent unit to Hermes

Waited 3 weeks to make sure it had plenty of time to arrive and be inspected

February 3 - Asked if Hermes had received unit yet...no response

Waited 2 weeks

February 17 - Asked again if Hermes had received unit yet.

RESPONSE: Alfredo replied next day and said heater had been replaced and it would ship in 1-2 days

Waited 2 weeks+

March 5 - I asked Alfredo if he had tracking number for package...no response

March 9 - I again asked Alfredo if he could confirm it had been sent...no response


So after piecing everything together, I'm guessing Alfredo sent my miniVAP 3 weeks ago and that I'll get it when I get it? Sure would be nice to at least know for sure if it was sent and when. Then I could at least adjust my expectations.

These months without the use of my MV does make me wonder...since my battery has been unavailable for my use for ~20% of its warranty life and MV core for ~10% of its warranty life...would Hermes honor my warranty if either of these fail in the few months after the warranty expires?


So today, exactly 9 weeks since I shipped it to Spain, I received my MV battery and core back from Hermes. Oddly, it was shipped via USPS using the same tracking number I used to send it. I don't know how they did it, but it looks like they somehow were able to return it without paying for any extra postage. It wasn't the same label though and they did tell me they repaired it.

I opened the package expecting I might find some free accessories like others have received to help make up for the steep postage to Spain. I didn't receive anything extra. Much more disappointing though was the fact that the broken cap wasn't even fixed.


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Then after charging my "repaired" battery, I tried to use it and it doesn't work!

Still nobody from Hermes has replied to any of my emails in the last month. Sort of ironic since in mythology Hermes is the messenger of the gods and his most important function is Communication.

So now I have a working core at least and I guess I'll just repair my own cap since Hermes couldn't be bothered during the weeks it spent at their shop. Don't know what to do about my battery as I just spent almost $40 and waited 9 weeks to get it fixed and it's not working at all.

To put the last couple posts in perspective, I LOVE my miniVAP! My girlfriend has been amazed at my patience with Hermes. If they even half tried to communicate and show appreciation for their customers I would never post about my dissatisfaction. If you've followed my MV posts, I've said nothing but positive about it until now.

But I'm no fanboy and I do feel like both positive and negative experiences should be documented. It presents a more balanced perspective to potential new MV users who are on the fence. If you are okay with possibly being without your vaporizer for months at a time and dealing with customer service that selectively responds to your emails, the MV is an amazing little vape!!
 
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trontreez

Well-Known Member
Had a faulty cap myself and Hermes just sent me some adhesive and basically suggested I fix it myself. The cap imo is the biggest disappointment about the unit. The glue and adhesive is a worry for the health conscious and has failed for others too so is prone to failure. Anyone keen to lobby Hermes to design an interlocking cap without the use of any glues or adhesive. Couldn't be too hard to design and I for one would be happy to pay for a replacement.
 

Smknbud

Well-Known Member
Had a faulty cap myself and Hermes just sent me some adhesive and basically suggested I fix it myself. The cap imo is the biggest disappointment about the unit. The glue and adhesive is a worry for the health conscious and has failed for others too so is prone to failure. Anyone keen to lobby Hermes to design an interlocking cap without the use of any glues or adhesive. Couldn't be too hard to design and I for one would be happy to pay for a replacement.
I glued back together my old MV cap with Locktite Stick n Seal Extreme since it, at least according to the label, cures inert.
 

Michel

Well-Known Member
The stock glue is simple scotch tape from 3M on mine! Got one for free when I bought my vape; did Hermes already expect it to fall of?
Not overwhelmed by this fact, and people are criticizing temp resistant, inert polycarbonate from S&B... :rolleyes:

Got back an email from Hermes finally. Quite polite and nice these guys. Sadly their warranty processes aren't the fastest. But I'm not fast, too, most of the time :D. But I do things correctly. If they behave the same its ok for me. Let them time to use their unit themselves (@lazylightning : although 9 weeks should be very enough time to send back a fully working unit...)
 

Mrmrmrmr

Well-Known Member
We got so many innovators in this forum !!! Looking good @lazylathe :rockon:

And I think stating the cap is prone to failure is going to far...I think it's too expensive already but mine has stood up through hiking,running,shoving a Herbie whip connection(the part that connects the whip and bowl of Herbie ) through the cap. The MV is such a great product I wish their customer service was on point as well. Then again I've never had a problem with mine ,knock on wood !
 

mixchu69

Well-Known Member
We got so many innovators in this forum !!! Looking good @lazylathe :rockon:

And I think stating the cap is prone to failure is going to far...I think it's too expensive already but mine has stood up through hiking,running,shoving a Herbie whip connection(the part that connects the whip and bowl of Herbie ) through the cap. The MV is such a great product I wish their customer service was on point as well. Then again I've never had a problem with mine ,knock on wood !
i can picture it great for hiking. Backpacks always have a water bottle mesh holder. You can use it with a long whip, only holding the whip.

What is the average time people get on a battery full charge if you are only using green and red settings?
 

Michel

Well-Known Member
@JJ Cool F

The Minivap is a joke if you ask me to be true. I would be clearer if it wasn't forbidden by the forum rules.

-too many units failing from what I heard but in a forum this is often the case
-slow warranty process
-no contact form on web site, wrong phone number (and he's fully aware of this!)
-no clear information about updates or when new units are available (see gcmv or even MV with display before this) (I could even say misinformation or lying, but I'm carefull with such statements since I don't know who really is telling the truth, my reseller or Hermes, but let them time, I'm just in the warranty process so quite unhappy for now anyway, but the truth will come out and I will inform the forum about the progress as true and objective I can)
-Spanish manual for 519.- € ? C'mon, for 519.- I could get a Spanish Emanuela (translating the manual for me:lmao:) women on the forum, please don't feel offended, just get a Spanish Emanuel...
-way to hot to draw. He should had developed a cooling unit or include a long whip or a WT at least. What he's selling for now is not a fully working vaporizer. Imagine you just bought a plenty from s&b without cooling coil, just the mouthpiece! Should I really enjoy?
-3h batterie power? Seriously? I don't even get whispy clouds on lowest setting. My mighty could run as long as the MV, too, at 160 degrees without giving clouds. And I don't care if MV is more convective. It has to give clouds for 519.- €, as simple as it sounds.
-accessories can be even more expensive than the MV itself. Way too expensive. Flexicone for 25 uses? Seriously? Every 2 days 5€ if I remember right? I don't change the tires of my car every 1000km (~1600miles) neither, but continental would be happy. Did you see the prices on his homepage? I know you can use it longer, but it is his serious advice to customers!
-user interface? Blinking lights? Don't understand the manual without studying Spanish, don't understand the lights and blinking codes without studying FC because they are going weird sometimes
-unit freezes often, I'm not the only one I believe
-where is the temperature sensor located? Why is the unit still not hot enough after it stops blinking on red? Preheat for 15 minutes after light is solid, this is not what I read on his page before buying. But it seems my unit is defective after what people are telling me on the forum. I don't think so, I think it's just a pita to get clouds (preheat and don't overgrind and don't overfill and don't tamp down and shit) but we will see what Hermes has to ad...
- black aluminum core often has another color tone than batteries, lid and wall adapter. People seem to think it is ok. For me it is not. Not because I'm an asshole, but I want to get what I paid for. But perhaps after waisting 2 months on your warranty time you are simply happy to have a working unit. Even the arizer solo for not even half the price seems to have a more consistent production of the housings.
- wall adapter is very hard to screw on core, I have the impression I would brake it off instantly. The batterie itselfs fits very loose and don't give a clicking sound when locked.
-the front led sits 1mm deeper in the housing while the backlight led sticks out 0,5mm, not a big deal, but tier 1? I dont think so. Arizer Solo has a better quality
-I dislike the clicking of the buttons. They don't sit in the unit very well. And are moving. Not a big deal, but....
-the lid without the flexicone doesn't make an airtight seal. False air coming through if basket is not attached to flexicone or plastic mouthpiece is used
- don't let start with the mouthpiece, whistles, gets hot, restricts air path....
-laminar heat flow :shrug: where are the laminar clouds? Only a marketing joke from my point of view. But I'm only an engineer, not Hermes himself and just passed fluid mechanics and thermodynamics by a hair's breadth so don't take this to serious.
-humming sound is annoying. Just don't feel good to hear your unit humming. Not a big deal, but....

So, I think if the MV was a mobile phone I wouldn't buy it again never ever, since essential parts are missing. Who wants a mobile phone without microphone or speaker? I passed windows mobile 6.0 since 2009, I use Apple phones now ( but they aren't perfect, too! I like HTC and Samsung very much also but this is the wrong forum...)
I like tweaking if I want. I hate tweaking if I have to, just to keep things going like they should.

I still like the Minivap anyway (like a lot of real fanboys out there, pushing the image of the MV to the sky), but mighty is way better engineered for me! The mighty is an iPhone in the wrong housing! But s&b is aware and working on this. I already dreamed of a mighty in a wooden or aluminum housing....

Damn this post is long, I have to much to criticize. Hope you don't mind nitpicking me.



@adam_baumm

Vapes and smartphones are not a great comparison. R&d for phone companies easier in a way. Portable vapes have ovens in them ;)

:lmao:I like your sarcastic humor


Edit: don't get me wrong, I don't want to bash someone, I still like the MV, Alfredo and José (am I right with the names?) very much. I appreciate their work and don't know if I could do better. Every competition on the market is great!

Edit 2: sry for hijacking, should have posted this on the MV thread to release a shitstorm on me :evil:.
jj cool apologized already, but sometimes I just can't stop and my post is very to long to be on the mighty thread, so I apologize, too.
Feel free to quote, copy and paste this poste in the right forum.

mod note: This post and four others were moved from the Mighty thread
 
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I.b.vaping

Well-Known Member
@JJ Cool F

The Minivap is a joke if you ask me to be true. I would be clearer if it wasn't forbidden by the forum rules.


-too many units failing from what I heard but in a forum this is often the case
-slow warranty process
-no contact form on web site
-no clear information about updates or when new units are available (see gcmv or MV with display before this) (I could even say misinformation or lying, but I'm carefull with such statements since I don't know who really is telling the truth, my reseller or Hermes, but let them time, I'm just in the warranty process so quite unhappy for now anyway, but the truth will come out and I will inform the forum about the progress as true and objective I can)
-Spanish manual for 519.- € ? C'mon, for 519.- I could get a Spanish Emanuela (translating the manual for me:lmao:) woman, please don't feel offended, just get a Spanish Emanuel
-way to hot to draw. He should have developed a cooling unit or include a long whip or a WT at least. What he's selling for now is not a fully working vaporizer. Imagine you just bought a plenty from s&b without cooling coil, just the mouthpiece! Would you enjoy?
-3h batterie power? Seriously? I don't even get whispy clouds on lowest setting. My mighty could run as long as the MV, too, at160 degrees without giving clouds. And I don't care if MV is more convective. It has to give clouds for 519.- €, as simple as it sounds.
-accessories are even more expensive than the MV itself. Way too expensive. Flexicone for 25 uses? Seriously? Every 2 days 5€ if I remember right? I don't change the tires of my car every 1000km (~1600miles) neither, but continental would be happy. Did you see the prices on his homepage?
-user interface? Don't understand the manual without studying Spanish, don't understand the lights and blinking codes without studying FC because they are going weird sometimes
-unit freezes often, I'm not the only one I believe
-where is the temperature sensor located? Why is the unit still not hot enough after it stops blinking on red? Preheat for 15 minutes after light is solid, this is not what I read on his page before buying. But it seems my unit is defective after what people are telling me on the forum. I don't think so, but we will see what Hermes has to ad...
- black aluminum core often has another color tone than batteries, lid and wall adapter. People seem to think it is ok. For me it is not. Not because I'm an asshole, but I want to get what I paid for. But perhaps after waisting 2 months on your warranty time you are simply happy to have a working unit. Even the arizer solo for not even half the price seems to have a more consistent production of the housing.
- wall adapter is very hard to screw on core, I have the impression I would brake it off instantly. The batterie itselfs fits very loose and don't give a clicking sound when locked.
-the front light sits 1mm deeper in the housing while the backlight sticks out 0,5mm, not a big deal, but tier 1? I dont think so. Arizer Solo has better quality
-I dislike the clicking of the buttons. They don't sit in the unit very well. And are moving. Not a big deal, but....
-the lid without the flexicone don't make an airtight seal. False air coming through if basket is not attached to flexicone or plastic mouthpiece is used
- don't let start with the mouthpiece, whistles, gets hot, restricts air path....
-laminar heat flow :shrug: where are the laminar clouds? Only a marketing joke from my point of view. But I'm only an engineer, not Hermes himself and just passed fluid mechanics and thermodynamics by a hair's breadth so don't take this to serious.
-humming sound is annoying. Just don't feel good to hear your Unit humming. Not a big deal, but....

So, I think if the MV was a mobile phone I wouldn't buy it again, since essential parts are missing. Who wants a mobile phone without microphone or speaker? I'm passed windows mobile 6.0 , I use Apple phones now ( but they aren't perfect, too! I like HTC and Samsung very much also but this is the wrong forum...)
I like tweaking if I want. I hate tweaking if I have to, just to keep things going like they should.

I still like the Minivap anyway (like a lot of real fanboys out there, pushing the image of the MV to the sky), but mighty is way better engineered for me! The mighty is an iPhone in the wrong housing! But s&b is aware and working on this. I already dreamed of a mighty in a wooden or aluminum housing....

Damn this post is long, I have to much to criticize. Hope you don't mind nitpicking me.



@adam_baumm



:lmao:I like your sarcastic humor
That was brilliant mate and exactly what I thought of the minivap! I would of posted something similar but didn't because everyone on the minivap thread would of kicked right off! Thanks again Michel you're a legend :clap:
 

Kommyknocker

Well-Known Member
Progress!!

Email:
Hello Kommy

Thanks for your patience on waiting for your mV.

We have replaced the internal elements with the new heating system, much
more robust, and with a new firmware: the heating is faster, improved
temperature accuracy and the 10 minutes timer resets every time you inhale.

I hope your 4th try will be the last one. Anything you need, please let
us know.

Many thanks and best regards,
Alfredo
..
Now, whilst it does not say shipped as yet and I've no tracking number.. I'm still unsure as to how long I'll have to wait.. But.. Fingers crossed it's reaaal soon!
 

lazylightning

It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
And I think stating the cap is prone to failure is going to far...I think it's too expensive already but mine has stood up through hiking,running,shoving a Herbie whip connection(the part that connects the whip and bowl of Herbie ) through the cap. The MV is such a great product I wish their customer service was on point as well. Then again I've never had a problem with mine ,knock on wood !

I don't know. The cap on my silver unit broke after 3 uses and the one on my black unit lasted only a couple weeks before coming apart. Being prone to failure doesn't mean they will definitely fail...just that there is a tendency to fail which I believe is true.
 
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