MiniVAP Vaporizer
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OnCloud8
Vapor Vixen
You can get the Herbie whip through the cap? I found it was slightly too large for that. I probably could force it in but it would be a little pinched on one side...there must be a slight difference in the size of the opening between our two caps.
My solution is I use the lower part of the stock plastic stem and place the Herbie whip over it (picture is a few pages back).
I totally recommend the one with the mouthpiece (I got the stainless steel one). So much nicer mouthfeel than just the silicon tube.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I don't use a mouthpiece anymore with my Herbie whip. I like the open air flow you get by removing it.
lazylathe
Almost there...
Try a little water or just lick the end before inserting into the cap!
Makes it just slide in perfectly!
No kinks or pinching at all.
I am sure the caps are a standard size since it fit the same way in my first MV.
OnCloud8
Vapor Vixen
hmmm, no luck here. maybe the whip size is different? This is what I get. it almost fits, but is a bit crowded in there and can't get the top of the flexicone in properly:
So for now, I keep rocking like this, works fine for me:
stickstones
Vapor concierge
Yeah, my Herbie whip doesn't fold that much in the mv cap.
OnCloud8
Vapor Vixen
huh, I wonder if it's some kind of difference between the replacement whips (got mine from vapornation - never had an actual Herbie) and the stock whips, since you and @lazylathe both have Herbalizers and (I'm assuming) the stock whips.
I hope my whip is genuine, the high quality of the Herbie and it's parts is one of the reason's I bought this thing to pair with my MV....you know "medical grade silicone" is the type of buzzword combo that gets me excited with this stuff.
This is what I got, for reference: http://www.vapornation.com/herbalizer-whip-system.html
As far as I can tell they are an authorized reseller for The Herbalizer, so I figured it was safe to assume the product was genuine, but now I have doubts...
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
@OnCloud8 - my whip looks yellower than yours. fwiw, I noticed Herbie's coming out with whips with steel mouthpieces, which is not what I got with my unit...I got a plastic mouthpiece with the same shape. I'm sure your whip is genuine, but the diameter could change if they wanted to as long as they adjusted the mouthpiece and the adapter at the other end. I have pushed my Herbie whip through the MV cap before and it only bunches up slightly. I'll ask the folks at Herbalizer next time I talk to them, but yeah, your not gonna get the same performance @lazylathe and I are raving about with our Herbie whips if yours bunches up like that. Sorry about that...
OnCloud8
Vapor Vixen
oh it's all good
I would definitely be curious to hear what, if anything you hear from Herbalizer if you do end up talking to them. It makes sense that it's some slight design change due to the stainless steel mouthpiece version, since that's what I have. It also came with the little rubber gasket to connect to the Herbalizer, so it is a seemingly complete and legit product. Color in person is a very elemers glue / white out shade of white.
I still like it a lot, it really elevated my experience with the MV. The way I have it setup with the stock mouthpiece bottom is fine with me. I actually got two and plan to split the other one into two different smaller sizes, one to use as a shorter dry whip, and one to use as a path into some new glass
My ordering from PIU on the Herbie whip should finally arrive me these days, the one with the SS MP..
Will give you feedback.
Now I have also doubts with the cap.
Yeah, would be interesting to hear how it works for you. Let us know!
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Tab
Nerd
Sure, I will tell you guys my first experience with it, when it`s finally here.
Btw, this is my Hulk glass setup...
Need to say it`s the smoothest setup I`ve tried until now and also a good resin catcher.Looks a bit freaky but works like a charm^^
Used a small 18mm Chillung from my Weedstar Bong as the lowerpart. It fits perfectly in the caps lid, so no air is coming from anywhere it shouldn`t.
The upperpart is the Ascent Gong adapter which works as mouthpiece in this case...
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vaporlee
Well-Known Member
I received my green teflon MV, from Hermes last night, and have tried thoroughly, but couldn't get any of those amazing taste at all. I used fully loaded small basket attached to the whip's cone but was only able to get visible cloud from green light to red light which is highest heat setting and the taste was rather bitter.. Does MV has to be pre-heated and burn-off prior to first use to elminate initial taste? I get slightly snorkel kind of taste and smell, but maybe it's because it's new. I don't know... I had really high expectation on MV though...
However this morning I just felt couldn't be bothered to use the basket, and just loaded directly into the chamber, and I could finally get good amount of vapor production from only 1st heat setting, and the taste and smell seems slightly improved? But also I kind of curious how the experiences from glass cores, relate to the taste..
However this morning I just felt couldn't be bothered to use the basket, and just loaded directly into the chamber, and I could finally get good amount of vapor production from only 1st heat setting, and the taste and smell seems slightly improved? But also I kind of curious how the experiences from glass cores, relate to the taste..
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tepictoton
Well-Known Member
Only thing I can imagine going on is maybe you are not giving it enough time to heat up? It can take its time, but once it gets there it will amaze you...
Also, try not packing your herb, just throw it in the basket loosely, top it of with one of the screens with a rim,slide into flexicone and attach whatever mouthpiece option you want and you should be good to gow...
Edit: dunno what gow exactly is, but I guess a bowl(euh basket) or two later we will all figure it out
Also, try not packing your herb, just throw it in the basket loosely, top it of with one of the screens with a rim,slide into flexicone and attach whatever mouthpiece option you want and you should be good to gow...
Edit: dunno what gow exactly is, but I guess a bowl(euh basket) or two later we will all figure it out
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OnCloud8
Vapor Vixen
a few tips, since I had a similar experience of bitterness with my MV at first (teflon core here though).
-pack loose, not tight. these days I'm usually using the larger basket, and about half packed.
-heat up to green and then dial down to pink or blue and then start flavor chasing, or go straight to green if you want instant clouds.
-lengthen the vapor path in some way, all stock options are too short for tasty clouds imo. (although you can get very tasty *puffs* with the stock options, but if you want tasty clouds you need to upgrade to either a longer vapor whip, or some kind of glass straw or mouthpiece to cool the vapor. For example, with my Herbalizer whip, no matter how big the cloud I draw, it's always cool and either tasty (at first), or neutral (not bitter) as the session progresses.
-on blue or pink take a few long draws to warm the basket before expecting visible vapor. Usually the first few draws will be thin to medium thin on blue or pink (and super tasty).
-after a few good draws on pink, dial up to green and *boom* big clouds (first few are delicious - then they get a slight roasted flavor as you go on). finish on red for a last few big clouds (will be roasted tasting, but not bad or sour so long as you followed previous tip)
-if you want clouds right away, go straight to green. if you look at the documentation on hermes site they say that when using the basket, green or red are recommended. Although I find if I warm up the basket with a few draws that produce no vapor, I can get super tasty vapor on blue or pink while using the basket.
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vaporlee
Well-Known Member
I appreciate!
I thought the taste and smell comming from the teflon..
So is your Minivap has improved taste with regular use?
I was thinking to get replaced to new glass core, but I hope to hear more experiences from glass core users though..
OnCloud8
Vapor Vixen
It's really more the technique and longer whip that changed my experience of the taste. The slight "sour finish" I was getting with larger clouds before I added the longer whip was (I believe) a result of dry hot vapor, which was drying out the tissue in my mouth, and that was the cause of the "bitterness" on exhale. Initially I addressed the issue by taking a drink of water between each draw while using the stock tubing options, but once I switched to the longer whip I no longer detected any of that bitterness.
Try this, if you are feeling paranoid that your unit tastes weird because of it's materials (it shouldn't). Warm the unit up and take some long draws while it's empty (and ideally totally clean)....there should be no flavor at all, there isn't with mine and I tested it like that several times to be sure.
sdrsh
Well-Known Member
OK folks, I'm here to vent about my exchange of my malfunctioning MV unit with vapornation.
It's been TWO WHOLE MONTHS, and without me inquiring, I wouldn't have heard anything since they finally decided that it was a faulty unit. To remind you: the first email I received back from Vapornation even claimed that they deemed the unit fully functioning. Whatever, mistakes are made, but how about showing some love to a loyal customer so far? it wasn't the only purchase I've made with VN...
I'm still waiting, and haven't heard anything from VN since 1/7/15. Really?
I can't eve say that I'm looking forward to receiving a new unit because I don't even know what I'm getting.. Teflon or glass? Will I be beta-testing a product again that has been out for years (and paying full price)?
aaah don't get me wrong i am eager to help improve the vape biz but not like that, take a piece of the Haze or Indica companies for example in how to deal with customers, please! Both these units failed me at first, one overheated and the other stopped heating, but they got exchanged really quick!
If you can't exchange a unit within two months, offer me my money back and tell me to buy it again once they are back in stock. Heck, I would probably be happy with receiving store credit alone.
That's actually what I'm going to ask them to do, because even though i want a working MiniVap, this is not how you treat me, or anyone else, as a customer.
Is my frustration off base?
/ETA
I know the manufacturer is overseas and can be flakey to get in touch with, so the delay could be coming from solely that side. I don't know and shouldn't have to care.
It's been TWO WHOLE MONTHS, and without me inquiring, I wouldn't have heard anything since they finally decided that it was a faulty unit. To remind you: the first email I received back from Vapornation even claimed that they deemed the unit fully functioning. Whatever, mistakes are made, but how about showing some love to a loyal customer so far? it wasn't the only purchase I've made with VN...
I'm still waiting, and haven't heard anything from VN since 1/7/15. Really?
I can't eve say that I'm looking forward to receiving a new unit because I don't even know what I'm getting.. Teflon or glass? Will I be beta-testing a product again that has been out for years (and paying full price)?
aaah don't get me wrong i am eager to help improve the vape biz but not like that, take a piece of the Haze or Indica companies for example in how to deal with customers, please! Both these units failed me at first, one overheated and the other stopped heating, but they got exchanged really quick!
If you can't exchange a unit within two months, offer me my money back and tell me to buy it again once they are back in stock. Heck, I would probably be happy with receiving store credit alone.
That's actually what I'm going to ask them to do, because even though i want a working MiniVap, this is not how you treat me, or anyone else, as a customer.
Is my frustration off base?
/ETA
I know the manufacturer is overseas and can be flakey to get in touch with, so the delay could be coming from solely that side. I don't know and shouldn't have to care.
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scottg402
Well-Known Member
I waited a long time too but eventually got a working unit (well so far anyway).
I still don't know why I seem to be the only one out there that they sent a replacement to.
I do know it was different though because of the color and difference in performance.
I also got a teflon core so someone else will have to be the unknowing beta tester.
I understand this is frustrating but in my opinion this vape is worth the wait. I have a pretty big arsenal of vapes and eventually I will be selling some off but I see the MV sticking around for a long time!
Good luck with whatever you decide!
Smknbud
Well-Known Member
Nah, your not off base. VN as I've found out tends to be lackadaisical at times and requires reminder calls to let them know you've been forgotten. Shouldn't be the case mind you, but the reality says differently. If you suck it up and accept that fact and approach it from the mind set that you have to stay actively involved, and as polite as possible under the circumstances, they are very approachable and helpful on the phone. They will make it right.....it's the time they tend to take to do that which gets thin with the patience at times.
The word on the street is that it will be at least the end of January or most likely the first week of February before VN expects new stock from Hermes. Hopefully you think it's worth the wait as I do, but if not, explore your options with VN if possible.
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I.b.vaping
Well-Known Member
Hey I've recently sent my mv back and got a volcano instead! I recently had an email from Hermes which is on an earlier thread! Telling me about the problems they've had with the new units but is apparently sorted now! I've also just noticed vapefiend in the UK have stopped selling mv on there site! Not sure what this is saying? But would definitely say they are having problems atmo! Hope you get it sorted soon
sdrsh
Well-Known Member
Yeah I'm weighing my options and haven't reached a conclusion yet. The Volcano is out of question because it is not really what I'm looking for and also too expensive for its age to be competitive today IMO. (never tested it though)
The obvious alternative seems to be the Mighty by S&B but there are a couple of things that kind of turn me off. It still has a couple of quirks on both, the software and hardware side and the cleaning ritual seems to be comparable to that of the Pax, and definitely not as convenient as the MV in that regard. The cooling-unit seems to be great though..
Or I might finally give in and get an e-nano for home use anyway. Looks like a handy little MFer!
Then I could give you guys a comparative review of the MV and e-nano...
Tab
Nerd
Doesn`t agree with your thoughts on the Volcano..
I`m a big fan of other solution.
Don`t want to pay that much like others do feel also, but the Volcano is one of the first bad ass Vapes around here. Why changing a very well working Unit, when it`s good like the others in present.
Sadly my best vapes is on a very high price range. Ordered the Air which doesn`t fit in. I don`t accept that the taste is better like from the mV one, but might be very good as well.
The Volcano is made of quality materials, you buy a volcano for more then 5-10 years of a working unit without problems, thats not the case with other units from different providers, that`s what we hear here so far... my
I`m a big fan of other solution.
Don`t want to pay that much like others do feel also, but the Volcano is one of the first bad ass Vapes around here. Why changing a very well working Unit, when it`s good like the others in present.
Sadly my best vapes is on a very high price range. Ordered the Air which doesn`t fit in. I don`t accept that the taste is better like from the mV one, but might be very good as well.
The Volcano is made of quality materials, you buy a volcano for more then 5-10 years of a working unit without problems, thats not the case with other units from different providers, that`s what we hear here so far... my
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sdrsh
Well-Known Member
I bet that it is one powerful, efficient and long-lasting piece of equipment, tested by time and plenty of users, no doubt. My criticism was directed at the price compared to what is on the market regarding vapes that provide more options, perhaps same quality of vapor (or even better) and a smaller footprint and price.
Nevertheless, respect given for the road the Volcano paved.
For example, if a new Volcano Digit was around $300-$400 I would probably own one for the exact reasons you stated.
/highjack over
When doing the research before deciding to go for a minivap I concluded that I'd rather be an early adopter of the "new volcano" (minivap) for the same price that I'd pay for a unit which has been around for years and what I considered "old technology" at that point.
Mind you, I'm not claiming to be an expert, those were and are my end-user thoughts. The more I study vapes and its biz I can see that we're in a very early stage of innovation and hence pay the price of the curious dealing with lot of faulty units, new versions every quarter, different business strategies with different variable outcomes and so on. I agree, if someone wants to go the safe and tested route, one might get the Volcano as a base vape and go exploring from there.
Or the Vapman, because it basically is a finished innovation, no need for functional improvement, only goodies, IMO.
Nevertheless, respect given for the road the Volcano paved.
For example, if a new Volcano Digit was around $300-$400 I would probably own one for the exact reasons you stated.
/highjack over
When doing the research before deciding to go for a minivap I concluded that I'd rather be an early adopter of the "new volcano" (minivap) for the same price that I'd pay for a unit which has been around for years and what I considered "old technology" at that point.
Mind you, I'm not claiming to be an expert, those were and are my end-user thoughts. The more I study vapes and its biz I can see that we're in a very early stage of innovation and hence pay the price of the curious dealing with lot of faulty units, new versions every quarter, different business strategies with different variable outcomes and so on. I agree, if someone wants to go the safe and tested route, one might get the Volcano as a base vape and go exploring from there.
Or the Vapman, because it basically is a finished innovation, no need for functional improvement, only goodies, IMO.
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