I'm not sure what I'm using exactly, but it seems a 3.5 is lasting me at least twice as long as it was post smoking, but pre this thread. I think the vapman and vapcap lend themselves to efficiency by design but it's still handy to be weary of usage as my results are similar to nugg. Better higher more often if I don't over do it.
Micro-dosing
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The Stranger
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Just picked up an eighth of super lemon haze. If I stick to just using my nano and vape one stem a night (which I don't anymore anyway) that's only .35 a week. 10 weeks off an eighth is crazy. I'll probably be sick of this strain by the time I'm done.
Let's be real though, I'll definitely pick up a new strain half way through.
Let's be real though, I'll definitely pick up a new strain half way through.
uhranium
Well-Known Member
I am quoting myself here because I finally got that kitchen safe. I put the stuff in there and locked it once for 22 hours after vaping my standard 9pm evening 15-20m session, giving me a 22h tolerance break instead of vaking up at 8am.
Turns out vaping only once a day in the evening gives me such a high that I can't properly work with numbers anymore, which is a bit too much for my efficiency. So I set my kitchensafe with the vape+weed in it to open at ~4.20pm. It's a good starting point for a productive morning and a mellow afternoon-evening.
Did not start with the 0.2 bags now, since my scale has LCD problems and so I just fill up the solo a few times throughout the day and locking it all away at the end of the day.
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shredder
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Your right, in your log love, so right. Ive been using about .3 to .5 grams a day with a new underdog. I use the small stem and .05 gram loads. I don't feel like I'm missing anything from my 5-7 gram days smoking joints either.
BadDog No
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I so have to jump on the microdose bandwagon. Oh I'm not dosing like my 70's college bong days of a z a week, but if I could cut back from my present gram a day, that would be wonderful. Somehow I think willpower might be an even more important component than correct equipment though so I'm loathe to invest in a log. I currently use a Firefly with as close to whole bud as I have until it starts to lose flavor. Sometimes I then use a custom WPA lid to hook up some glass, sometimes not. Two FF bowls and I then have enough for some "bagwork" with the old Steinel usually getting 3 bags at around 390, 410 and 430. Don't think the efficiency of my extraction process is suspect, but in the spirit of the scientific method, I believe I owe it to myself to set up a true "compare and contrast" experiment. Maybe I'll just start with getting a concentrate pad for the FF to cut down the bowl size...Another fun thread guys; God I love this place...
mightyhigh
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Great thread! Makes me really want to explore microdosing more. I'm thinking it will be really good for my productivity and save lots of money. Last week I cut back consumption considerably to prepare for job interviews and noticed that I needed less and less herb as the days passed. I also found that CBD tincture was a big help in cutting back. I notice dreams coming back and that I am more responsive in conversation. I think that microdosing will help me enjoy the benefits of a clearer head while still getting the wellness benefits of marijuana. I've been loving my Mighty as a session vape. Now it looks like i'll have to start experimenting with smaller doses. Would love to hear more comparison of how vapes handle micro dosing
shredder
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The mighty would be tough to micro dose with. It does not take to stopping and starting like some vapes, so you pretty much are left with small loads. Something I am not good at, lol.
When I want less I use a larger screen pushed down to secure the load.
The ssv is somewhat easier. You can just hit it once then put the stem and whip down. Or get and use a ddave mod kit. The smaller of the kits holds .05 gr.
But an underdog really shines with small loads in the small stems. It's a two huge or 3-4 medium hits deal. No stirring needed, and clouds pretty much garranteed.
Enano vapes can be loaded light as well. Plus you can remove the stem for hitting later. I never weighed a load in my enano, but I think you could get around .05, with a careful eye when loading.
My volcano is not for micro dosing. It has s huge bowl. I use mine for parties now days.
Hope this helps
mightyhigh
Well-Known Member
Thanks, I'll try out small loads but seeing as the only vapes I have are the mighty and volcano, I might have to let VAS get the best of me and look into an underdog or something similar.. time to do research I guess
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
The Mighty works mighty fine for micro dosing. Use the included concentrate pad on top of your .05g or less and go to town, the added conduction will extract it all. Otherwise you can use the domed screen mod in the CU like I do, although for the smaller micros I think the pad works better. No need for an e-nano, or whatever other vape. I also have great success with my torch powered Supreme v3....nothing is too micro for that thing.
I've been off of weed and vaping for 5 weeks now, and hoping to go another 3 at least due to side effects and dependence/tolerance, but when I return, i'll be only using micro doses from now on! Can't wait!
BadDog No
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@biohacker: I get the whole concept of reducing bowl volume by using a concentrate pad, and it would make sense if you were making a "sandwich" with concentrate and weed, to put weed under the pad, but wouldn't you normally put your weed on top? Or doesn't it matter?
I ask because I've got a recently purchased Firefly with a Lotus WPA (Yeah I know. When am I going to get my shit together and start posting pictures... It was in the classifieds) and the screen is a bit of a pain. If I could throw the pad on top, all my problems would be solved...more . You do raise an interesting point though about how many of us may be trying to justify our VAS instead of learning to use the equipment we already have. Or am I just projecting? 
I ask because I've got a recently purchased Firefly with a Lotus WPA (Yeah I know. When am I going to get my shit together and start posting pictures...
It was in the classifieds) and the screen is a bit of a pain. If I could throw the pad on top, all my problems would be solved...more . You do raise an interesting point though about how many of us may be trying to justify our VAS instead of learning to use the equipment we already have. Or am I just projecting?
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
Hey dude, I have never put the herb on top of the pad, only underneath. But I can only speak of the Mighty/Crafty. You can effectively vape even small fragments this way, I think i've gone down to .025g but not less. It definitely increases conductive properties. I don't like using the pad though, perhaps it's psychological, but I don't like the hot air going through it and feel it imparts a "taste". So I just use the dome screen mod in the cooling unit, and it works nearly as well, perhaps less conduction. Once I get back into vaping, i'll definitely start posting vids of the Mighty with Micro's! I think I may have already in the Mighty thread, can't remember....my memory has turned to crap! lol
Micros will be the only way to go for me from here on out! It really is amazing how less can be more with this plant!
Micros will be the only way to go for me from here on out! It really is amazing how less can be more with this plant!
mightyhigh
Well-Known Member
interesting results after a couple of days of trying to microdose. I tried a few hits under a concentration pad at the low temp of 157C and was surprised by the heady effect. I didn't see any visible vapor. was almost as strong as vaping several hits at my usual 195C but with less heaviness. also noticed I was way more affected by the dab my supplier gave me than I would be under my normal level of consumption. I wish there was more knowledge on the cannabinoid system so it wasn't so much trial an error- though i guess that can be the fun part. seems like strain effects are more discernible while consuming less. Should be fun to explore this method more
stressed
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i use the extreme Q bag for my small doses. it works great. try your volcano. just fiddle with it a bit and maybe you'll find that it will work fine.
i dose .05 or less and let the bag fill about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way. the vapor isn't thick but it is fine and the high is just right for me.
Vaked420
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What I find is that the common belief is that as a tolerance increases, the common held belief is just to smoke more to still get high. This worked for me for a while until I realized I'd become the epitemy of stereotypical stoner. I vaped half a gram a day through my underdog which was maybe 10 bowls throughout the day, I was high all the time and wasn't the same as my normal self when I wasn't stoned and wasn't my normal self when I was stoned. I realized that while my tolerance had gone up and the cannabinoids did effect me less, it had also numbed my cannabinoid receptors so when I wasn't stoned I was basically anti high as I call it and part of why my tolerance had gotten so high wasn't just the decrease in my sensitivity to weed, it was also my perception of high I was. Looking back even though I may not have felt super crazy high and u was calm, I was in a very altered state of mind that I had just become used to. Partially it is my fault for overdoing it, but also I feel that weed society, especially that of high school and college stoner society, pushes the idea that everything can be fixed with a bowl of weed, and it is the only drug that I have seen where using the drug to help cover problems is seen as a good thing. This at least led me to increasing my tolerance from where 1 or 2 hits got me plenty happy with my high, to 2 or 3 bowls not satisfying the itch. And this isn't to say weed ruined my life, but I was definitely overdoing it and had developed a clear phsycological addiction. I wasn't necessarily in a rush to fix it though as I said it wasn't ruining my life, but over the last year or so I've slowly reduced my consumption to about I'd guess .05-.1 grams 5-6 times a week and I'm on my way to my ultimate goal which I would guess is just 2 or 3 hits 3 or 4 times a week max.
This is obviously a very subjective post and I'm in no way saying that weed is bad. I love weed and it changed my life and made me reflect on what I was doing in a way that made me take action to make myself happier. But too much of any good thing isn't good, and too much is a very subjective thing. It just seems that my too much, and what I believe the too much of the people I see around me is a lot less than most people think it is. So here's to microdosing! Lol
This is obviously a very subjective post and I'm in no way saying that weed is bad. I love weed and it changed my life and made me reflect on what I was doing in a way that made me take action to make myself happier. But too much of any good thing isn't good, and too much is a very subjective thing. It just seems that my too much, and what I believe the too much of the people I see around me is a lot less than most people think it is. So here's to microdosing! Lol
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
My Enano uses the least cannabis of all of my vaporizers.
I was thinking with the Ascent portable, you can buy glass spacers that really cut down on your load and easier to micro dose because the oven is big. Also using these glass pipe screens they are shaped like flowers and are small. You can load up more glass flowers depending on how much cannabis you want to use.
I could see using glass spacers or these glass flowers in different vaporizers depending on the oven and its shape. I personally like an all glass mouthpiece. The glass flowers also act to distribute heat .
Here's a pic. They are pretty small. You can get them off Amazon. The daisy glass pipe screens.
This one is 2 glass spacers from Davinci that works with the Ascent. I was using it different ways, experimenting, here it's filled with cannabis.
You could sandwich your cannabis between the two flat sides of the spacers, using very little cannabis. They have small holes too for heat distribution and air flow. You can get them through Davinci.
I was thinking with the Ascent portable, you can buy glass spacers that really cut down on your load and easier to micro dose because the oven is big. Also using these glass pipe screens they are shaped like flowers and are small. You can load up more glass flowers depending on how much cannabis you want to use.
I could see using glass spacers or these glass flowers in different vaporizers depending on the oven and its shape. I personally like an all glass mouthpiece. The glass flowers also act to distribute heat .
Here's a pic. They are pretty small. You can get them off Amazon. The daisy glass pipe screens.
This one is 2 glass spacers from Davinci that works with the Ascent. I was using it different ways, experimenting, here it's filled with cannabis.
You could sandwich your cannabis between the two flat sides of the spacers, using very little cannabis. They have small holes too for heat distribution and air flow. You can get them through Davinci.
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Silat
When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.
Hi. I cannot find those glass spacers on the Davinci site. Can you post a link please?
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I didn't see them either when I just checked. Maybe they are sold out and took them down? There's a davinci representative that is on the davinci ascent's thread. @Davinci_vaporizer Give them a PM Or call them on Monday. They still make them because they had them last month on their online store. They are $10 for 2 and are all glass.
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shredder
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Very thoughtful post. Not my experience at all though.
I'm quite proud to get down to .5 gr per day give or take. But although I might vape 10, .5gr underdog bowls throughout the day, I also have some fairly significant health issues that I medicate for with cannabis.
I use fairly easy going sativas generally during the day, so I can stay active and get things done. And heavier indicas in the evening where sleeping might be more the goal. Either way though, I'm not trying to see how high I can get, just trying to keep going as pain free as possible.
So like you said, these things are subjective. I guess the goal is to do right by one's self.
Hyphy
Karma
Mini measuring spoons are a must for getting on a micro schedule. The 'drop' size is perfect for one hit extractions using a UD NonG with a D020 bubbler. The 'pinch' size is perfect for an arizer air stem.
http://www.amazon.com/Norpro-3080-S...1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I grate maybe 0.5g per stain into Jyarz classics and then use these spoons to dose. I'm amazed at how little material is needed to get vaped-the-f-out compared to combustion. Guess it also helps that today's legal strains are super potent so less material is needed for good effects.
http://www.amazon.com/Norpro-3080-S...1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I grate maybe 0.5g per stain into Jyarz classics and then use these spoons to dose. I'm amazed at how little material is needed to get vaped-the-f-out compared to combustion. Guess it also helps that today's legal strains are super potent so less material is needed for good effects.
1DMF
Old School Cheesy Quaver
@Silat
It's really odd, it's like Da Vinci has pulled them?
Even their own blog telling us how great they are has a broken link to the actual product, which seems to have vanished from their site?
http://www.davincivaporizer.com/blog/glass-spacer-set-to-use-less-but-vape-more/
Vaked420
Well-Known Member
Right and my reasoning for using weed is completely different as well. I'm completely recreational(I guess besides the fact that reflecting on my life from a different point of view does help my mental sanity lol) but no pain relief or anything of the sort. And as I talk about how there were side effects from me vaping more, mostly I think it's just because I feel that I am very self-aware and already pretty healthy so something that may seem like a slight effect on energy etc. to someone else seems like a heavy effect to me.
Also side note I haven't vaped in a couple days in an effort to lower my tolerance further(also parents-in-law that are very conservative will be in town...) and I definitely feel a little more clear, but I definitely feel a noticeable itch to vape but nothing too over the top.
My overall goal is to feel in control of my use and not the other way around and I feel 99% of the way there so I'm pretty happy about that!
Also another side note lol one of the biggest things that's hard for me to cut back isn't the high itself, but the act of vaping, the flavor of the different strains and the social aspect since the easiest way for me to hang out with someone is to see if they wanna vape.
tumbling dice
New Member
I started vaping in January 2016 after 15 years of no dope because I quit smoking back then.
I didn't want to go back to the old days of (smoking) consuming all day every day so what I do now is vape only on Friday and Saturday evenings, and then only 2 bowls, first Moroccan hash and then some Amnesia weed a couple of hours later.
I can tell you I get fucking ripped from the first hash bowl, I mean face melting ripped like back when you first started smoking.
I've come to the conclusion that cannabis is not meant to be used too frequently, the golden rule is , less is more.
Could this be considered as a form of micro-dosing because I barely use a gram per month but still manage to enjoy the beautiful weed better than ever ?
I didn't want to go back to the old days of (smoking) consuming all day every day so what I do now is vape only on Friday and Saturday evenings, and then only 2 bowls, first Moroccan hash and then some Amnesia weed a couple of hours later.
I can tell you I get fucking ripped from the first hash bowl, I mean face melting ripped like back when you first started smoking.
I've come to the conclusion that cannabis is not meant to be used too frequently, the golden rule is , less is more.
Could this be considered as a form of micro-dosing because I barely use a gram per month but still manage to enjoy the beautiful weed better than ever ?
Vaked420
Well-Known Member
I believe so. I categorize micro dosing as in general just a lot less than what people normally use and if that means using that relatively little amount all at once, I think that's fine. It all depends on what your goal with microdosing is. It seems that your goal is to get really really ripped but not too often and at a time when it isn't going to effect the things you need to get done.
My goal more so than micro dosing is micro tolerancing which more or less go hand in hand. The tolerance we build is our body saying woah this drug has been here a while, it most be a normal thing, alright body start compensating for the presence of this drug. And to me that's the point when things aren't good. So if you aren't really building a tolerance with your use, which I wouldn't expect you are, then I think you're doing good
My goal more so than micro dosing is micro tolerancing which more or less go hand in hand. The tolerance we build is our body saying woah this drug has been here a while, it most be a normal thing, alright body start compensating for the presence of this drug. And to me that's the point when things aren't good. So if you aren't really building a tolerance with your use, which I wouldn't expect you are, then I think you're doing good