Micro-dosing

Vaked420

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So 0.25g per person per day, that two people?

That's not too shabby.

I know some who vape a gram a day

Even a gram a day, who's to say that isn't what someone needs. As ataxian said to him he feels a gram a day and .25 of shatter is micro dosing compared to who he sees around him.

But even then to me microdosing is more so a mentality. It's about having what you need and watching your consumption and keeping it to a lower level for some sort of goal, which for me is to save money, stay medicated more often and for mornings like this morning where I wanted to have a nice time wake and vaking as a cool storm hits us here in Seattle and all it took was 2 maybe .02 gram bowls in my MFLB and I'm feeling it veery heavily. And the thing for me even more than cost is once I started microdosing, I realized as much as I love vaping, after a certain point even vapor is too much to inhale or I just can't consume enough in a short enough period to get where I want to be. But I've stayed high almost all day for the last few months and I have never had a better time in my life. I have more benefits than I ever did from vaping and nearly none of the side effects. Honestly microdosing has changed my life. Its been the catalyst for a lot of other big changes in my life that have happened in the last few months and helped me survive through times that were unbearably tough.

So anyways, I would've probably never done it if it wasn't for this very thread helping me with the idea and how to execute so thank you to everyone who posts in it, everyone who got it started, and we'll everyone in the FC community

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Vaked420

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Do you find flowers microdose better than concentrates?

I find concentrates harder to maintain low doses with just because it's easy to have way more haha. But at the end of the day I like both. A micro dose dab is enough to get me a more rushing high whIle still not being a large amount of cannabinoids. Really nice if I want to be stoned now and sober later
 
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hinglemccringleberry

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does anyone know roughly how much 1 medium-large hit consumes? i know there are variables, but on average .015-.02 maybe?
 
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tonuzzi

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I still use my Purple Days log vape (6years old) for micro dosing. 2 stems packed nicely (.05 grams) gets me where I need to be for a couple of hours.

I have SCA (ATAXIA) type 6?

I don't measure any more.

I go by consumption per day!

1 gram COLA FLOWERS per day.
Sometimes I just have nugget's when I'm low.
SHATTER normally .25 daily.

With my new MOD I have a new mix which helped me to reduce my SHATTER in take.

FORMULA I USE:
EJUICE = FLAVOR you like? 30ml (0 nicotine)
SHATTER = what you like? 1 gram

I heat the liquid in a 4 oz cup of water 107F
The bottle holds 5 grms + or - (this is submerged however no H2O)
Steep for a couple of days.
Fill a TANK 1/2 full.
Right now I'm at 25watts on a PICO MEGA 80W through water path.

Now I did reduce my SHATTER consumption.
COLAS taste amazing so I won't reduce this part of my medication.

I have some other concentrate devices I use as well however it's fun to goof-off!

Do what works?

"There is not a right or wrong way just a way"!
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I have the same Pico setup as you but I use Hash oil/e-juice rather than shatter. Works great :tup:

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invertedisdead

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I find concentrates harder to maintain low doses with just because it's easy to have way more haha. But at the end of the day I like both. A micro dose dab is enough to get me a more rushing high whIle still not being a large amount of cannabinoids. Really nice if I want to be stoned now and sober later

I'm curious who has been able to microdose concentrates without tolerance/amount skyrocketing. I think you're right though about the ease, especially with a pen there is unlimited options to take a draw. I wonder if that inhibits the "microdose" schedule more than the concentrated product itself.
 
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Vaked420

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I'm curious who has been able to microdose concentrates without tolerance/amount skyrocketing. I think you're right though about the ease, especially with a pen there is unlimited options to take a draw. I wonder if that inhibits the "microdose" schedule more than the concentrated product itself.

Oh that's definitely it. And my girlfriend doesn't smell and so I'll vape inside occasionally but dabbing definitely is a nice alternative that doesn't leave a smell at all.

And I would say that with flower only I can stick to a maximum of .05-.1 grams of flower per day where as with concentrates I'll use a similar amount of flower, but also anywhere from 10mg - 100mg of flower. So it still stays pretty low, but I prefer having concentrates mixed in even if it makes microdosing harder. If anything its just a general self control issue which getting a hold of it will help me with other self control issues...lol

And just to note that's my combined use as of now between my MFLB and CO2 oil refillable cartridge pen, which I keep on me pretty much 24/7, my volcano and my rig which I use rosin and CO2 oil in. Sometimes it fluctuates anywhere between half that or triple that on some days. I just go with the flow and it usually sticks in that range haha. For the most part my consumption isn't even to get high anymore as much as it is just fun to use all the different methods and strains and to taste those terp salads! Lol
 
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rozroz

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So what would work better for micro dosing?
Conduction or convection?
I suppose convection is logically suppose to be more efficient in concerving the herb within puffs.

But i wanted to hear more experienced posters..
Thanks.
 
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invertedisdead

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I would say something that works well with small loads is more important than the vapor tech. Vapcap is incredibly efficient. Some vaporizers don't work that well with a microdose, some excel.
 

rozroz

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I would say something that works well with small loads is more important than the vapor tech. Vapcap is incredibly efficient. Some vaporizers don't work that well with a microdose, some excel.

yea i totally agree. it's just logical to think that conduction will continue to waste potency while micro dosing. but i could be totally wrong.
 
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Farid

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So what would work better for micro dosing?
Conduction or convection?
I suppose convection is logically suppose to be more efficient in concerving the herb within puffs.

But i wanted to hear more experienced posters..
Thanks.

Any device that allows for small loads is good for microdosing. Conduction versus convection is a preference thing. Conduction gives me a more sedative effect, convection gives superior flavor IMO (though this is totally device dependent). There are so many different factors which effect vapor profile, and conduction and convection is only part of that equation.

The most efficient vaporizers I have used are the MFLB and any log vaporizers. One is conduction, one is convection. Both are extremely useful for extreme micro dosing.
 

invertedisdead

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oh, torch lighter :(
i got too spoiled

Can you get torch lighters or butane where you are located? I forget, I believe it was Israel?
I think the torch is ultimately pretty convenient for a micro doser, as someone who doesn't use as frequently may not have such a strict battery management schedule as others so it just "works" when they need it. The discretion of electricity is nice though, too.
 
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rozroz

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Can you get torch lighters or butane where you are located? I forget, I believe it was Israel?
I think the torch is ultimately pretty convenient for a micro doser, as someone who doesn't use as frequently may not have such a strict battery management schedule as others so it just "works" when they need it. The discretion of electricity is nice though, too.

thanks.
i already have an Imag Plus pen that does the job with fairly small doses,
but i'm trying to understand why are different devices make it more efficient for small doses.
why are some devices not good for small doses?
 
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rozroz

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I microdose every day. I take a tiny tiny nug that I tear off a bud and pop it into my Vapcap. It vaporizes the flower using a combination convection/conduction method.
It is extremely efficient with your flower.

I used to microdose using the Vapman which is strictly a butane vape, and a very good one. To a lesser extent I used to use the Lotus, but it has a bit bigger bowl.

Unlike strict butane vapes, the Vapcap can be heated using any heat source; jet lighter, bic lighter, campfire, candle, stove element, solar heater etc. It is small and shaped like a cigarette.

It has a modular build so you can swap out bodies, stems, VonGs, condensers and mouthpieces to suit your personal aesthetic and intended use. It works great with dried flowers, hash and concentrates, but not liquid.

IMO, I think that the Vapcap is the most beautiful, most efficient, tiny vaporizer on the market. I only use the Vapcap now as my daily driver.

It is also quite affordable. The price ranges from $35 for the all glass model to the titanium Omnivap for $160.

Check out the Dynavap thread.

yea already done my homework.. ;)
i agree with your point, and of course with money efficiency,
it's just that i got so used to my electronic temp vape pen,
that any butane method for me seems like going back.
 
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Squiby

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i got so used to my electronic temp vape pen,
that any butane method for me seems like going back.

Hahaha!

Different strokes.

I started out vaping with battery powered vapes. When I finally discovered butane vapes, I was so happy to be free of plastic parts, batteries, electronics and cords.

Then when the Vapcap came along I knew I had stumbled upon the best vape for me.

I'm not going "back" to batteries and cords.

Neither of us are going back in different directions...Hahaha
 

rozroz

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Hahaha!

Different strokes.

I started out vaping with battery powered vapes. When I finally discovered butane vapes, I was so happy to be free of plastic parts, batteries, electronics and cords.

Then when the Vapcap came along I knew I had stumbled upon the best vape for me.

I'm not going "back" to batteries and cords.

Neither of us are going back in different directions...Hahaha

oh, didn't think about that angle, sorry. of course it's your own kick.
i might change my mind ;)
but i don't quite understand how do you control temps like that..
if i want to go 374 max, what am i suppose to do?
 
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Squiby

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i don't quite understand how do you control temps like that..

The Vapcap is a simple device with genius engineering.

There are very few parts. Nothing to fail, really. Below is a dismantled Vapcap. From left to right, top to bottom, there is the:

Temperature regulating cap
Titanium tip - bowl/herb chamber
Wood stem or midsection
Condenser

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The condenser is the vapor airpath. It fits inside the midsection. The ti tip fits into the midsection and over the condenser. The wood midsection has a carb hole in it that allows you to adjust the air resistance or vapor pull. You place your herb into the bowl in the ti tip. The cap covers the tip and it is the area you heat with your lighter or whatever heat source you have.

Here is the cap beside a Blackwood Ti Woody.
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There are heat sensitive discs sandwiched within the top of the cap. When the discs get hot enough, they buckle and great a clicking sound. This click indicates that you are at vaping temps. You adjust your temperature by where heat is applied on the cap. If heat is applied close to the top of the cap the discs heat up faster and the bowl will have heated the herb to a low vaping temperature. If you apply heat to the middle of the cap you will achieve hotter vaping temperatures. Heat the bottom of the cap and you will have an even hotter temperature.

There are several methods people use to customize the vaping temps to their preferences using this basic principle.

The Vapcap is like driving a manual transmission car. More control, more fun and faster than any automatic on the road.

Here is some Vapcap porn for your viewing pleasure.
Left to right: Burl Ti Woody XLS, Blackwood Ti Woody S and an Omnivap.
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