Discontinued Loto Labs Lux (formerly Evoke)
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Baron23
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I do drop in here from time to time to see how the continuing saga is going....and its amazing that these guys haven't been blanket partied or put in jail. HAHA
I hope, for the sake of those who pre-ordered, that they come through with something useful that you like and are happy with. But wow...what a cautionary tale about pre-ordering.
I hope, for the sake of those who pre-ordered, that they come through with something useful that you like and are happy with. But wow...what a cautionary tale about pre-ordering.
RelaxedNow
Well-Known Member
I've also been following this thread to see how it turns out.
What I don't understand is why you are complaining about pre-order risk. Do you not realize that they aren't yet taking orders, and that orders will be filled immediately upon receipt? Perhaps you have it confused with another vaporizer.
They raised a couple hundred grand (iirc) in crowd funding on indiegogo. I think that's what he was referring to.
RelaxedNow
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Baron23
Well-Known Member
No problem, mate....mostly I can't recall what I had for breakfast so its easy to convince me that I wrongly remembered something (but its not nice to play those games on old guys! hahaha).
Take care, all is good.
dream_genie
New Member
Apparently the Lux is shipping (see FB link below)? I'm hoping someone on FC will soon receive one and provide a review.
Wonder what five years of waiting will amount to?
https://www.facebook.com/lotolabs/
Wonder what five years of waiting will amount to?
https://www.facebook.com/lotolabs/
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Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
Wow. Who knew this day would ever come? I can't wait to hear the first reviews!
stickstones
Vapor concierge
In my mind, they already lost this with the Portside for the Vapcap. I've been using it a lot and love it...and it's induction that isn't pure conduction!
I know nothing about the power requirements of induction heating, but the Portside takes 3 18650's and seems to last forever. It makes me wonder if using induction heating is power efficient...
this makes me wonder, too ... so a little googling ...
from DOE via Wikipedia said:
however, other references, also about cooking, posit induction being 4 times more efficient than resistance heating element ... the confounding factor is it really depends on the geometry of the cooking device (size, shape, amount of void) and the amount of material to be cooked.
but, basically, not a significant amount of difference ... now re: Pipes vapcap induction heater - it is operating for a very short duration and hits the desired temp instantly, so that sucker should run a long ass time on a battery charge ... which it does.
i never explored induction heating - the electronics design is way more complicated than a hunk of nichrome ribbon and a mosfet - so, no first hand knowledge, and i'm still not ready to dive into the deep end of that pool. yet.
I think you are referring to the Square, not the Merger. And yeah the Square is a traditional coil but there really aren't a lot of details on the Merger yet.
sickmanfraud
Well-Known Member
Have any of you guys seen the evoke Facebook page?
It still has pictures of the pretty wood Evoke that probably got many of you to send in your $$
It still has pictures of the pretty wood Evoke that probably got many of you to send in your $$
Got angry at them for giving a 1 year warranty. That's a scam."Evoke Vaporizer if now the Loto Lux Vaporizer"
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/loto-lux-1st-smart-vaporizer-powered-by-induction/x/5699764#/
That will fix it. The problem was branding all along!
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/loto-lux-1st-smart-vaporizer-powered-by-induction/x/5699764#/
That will fix it. The problem was branding all along!
stickstones
Vapor concierge
now it's being called the first 'smart' induction powered vape.
grokit
well-worn member
To recap, this is not called the 'evoke' anymore; it's the 'lux' now...
To our friends and supporters,
As some of you who follow us on Facebook and other social media may already be aware, we've finally shipped our first Loto Lux vaporizers! We couldn't be prouder of how the first batch turned out--the look and the feel, as well as the clouds, have all made us very happy.
We've managed to ship five units so far, with another 24 slated for this week. We'll be using these first units for testing (all you testers out there, fill out this form to sign up to test the Loto Lux).
We sent our very first unit off the line to High Times Science Editor, you can see his review here.
As we test, we'll be working to smooth out the final processes for mass manufacturing, that will enable us to make the leap into full scale production and shipping, i.e. the Promised Land. At maximum capacity, we should be able to produce ten of thousands of units per month (from Bay Area facility, but if we went to China, hundreds of thousands), but we have to walk before we can run.
The first few units have taken longer than we ever expected to roll out. There have been so many process improvements and minor modifications needed to make the final assembly more efficient, perfectly repeatable and scalable. Even though it's been "slightly" frustrating and disillusioning for us, this is apparently normal for hardware at this "early" stage in manufacturing. Nevertheless, we take solace in the fact that we've reached a major milestone and full scale production is just around the corner. We've been through so much to arrive at this point, whether others feel it's praise-worthy or not, we are unshakably proud of how far we've come.
We've submitted our Mobile App to Apple, and are anxiously awaiting feedback, and hopefully approval, for the iOS app store. The Android app is in development and will be soon to follow. With some of our first Indiegogo supporters already having received their units, as well as the Beta version of the app, we'll be inviting each successive supporter to test the app once they receive their devices--assuming the app has not yet been approved for full public availability.
Many of you have requested video demos of the unit and more details. We are working on providing you all with some great content and a deeper look into the Loto Lux. In the next few weeks, we'll be rolling out this content and we think everyone will be excited about what they see.
We know that many of you are frustrated with the impossibility of immediately manufacturing and shipping all the units our supporters are due. We are frustrated by this too, but the best things in life, do take time. Our commitment to deliver has never been stronger, and Lux never closer, to being in your hands.
We'll be sure to update again soon.
Peace, Love, and Vaping
The Loto Labs Crew
To our friends and supporters,
As some of you who follow us on Facebook and other social media may already be aware, we've finally shipped our first Loto Lux vaporizers! We couldn't be prouder of how the first batch turned out--the look and the feel, as well as the clouds, have all made us very happy.
We've managed to ship five units so far, with another 24 slated for this week. We'll be using these first units for testing (all you testers out there, fill out this form to sign up to test the Loto Lux).
We sent our very first unit off the line to High Times Science Editor, you can see his review here.
As we test, we'll be working to smooth out the final processes for mass manufacturing, that will enable us to make the leap into full scale production and shipping, i.e. the Promised Land. At maximum capacity, we should be able to produce ten of thousands of units per month (from Bay Area facility, but if we went to China, hundreds of thousands), but we have to walk before we can run.
The first few units have taken longer than we ever expected to roll out. There have been so many process improvements and minor modifications needed to make the final assembly more efficient, perfectly repeatable and scalable. Even though it's been "slightly" frustrating and disillusioning for us, this is apparently normal for hardware at this "early" stage in manufacturing. Nevertheless, we take solace in the fact that we've reached a major milestone and full scale production is just around the corner. We've been through so much to arrive at this point, whether others feel it's praise-worthy or not, we are unshakably proud of how far we've come.
We've submitted our Mobile App to Apple, and are anxiously awaiting feedback, and hopefully approval, for the iOS app store. The Android app is in development and will be soon to follow. With some of our first Indiegogo supporters already having received their units, as well as the Beta version of the app, we'll be inviting each successive supporter to test the app once they receive their devices--assuming the app has not yet been approved for full public availability.
Many of you have requested video demos of the unit and more details. We are working on providing you all with some great content and a deeper look into the Loto Lux. In the next few weeks, we'll be rolling out this content and we think everyone will be excited about what they see.
We know that many of you are frustrated with the impossibility of immediately manufacturing and shipping all the units our supporters are due. We are frustrated by this too, but the best things in life, do take time. Our commitment to deliver has never been stronger, and Lux never closer, to being in your hands.
We'll be sure to update again soon.
Peace, Love, and Vaping
The Loto Labs Crew
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grokit
well-worn member
Please forgive the b2b posts, I wanted to publish this high times review separately...
Key takeaway: "This product has some major room for improvement."
and "...this reviewer recommends waiting a few months until the Loto Lux is in prime shape."
After three freakin' years?!?
I really hate to say this, but this looks like a built-in excuse for even more delays
Induction Heating: Rice Cookers, Welders… Now Vapes?
August 02, 2017
Induction heating has limited every-day applications, aside from melting pesky bolts or as a convenient way to cook rice. However, one small company has done what others had deemed impossible—they’ve gotten this technology into a handheld vaporizer.
Discovered in 1831 by Michael Faraday, said to be the “father of electromagnetism,” the inductive effect saw one of its first uses melting scrap metal in a smelter in England.
Induction heaters, such as those found on stovetops or rice cookers, pass very high frequency alternating current through a metallic object, generating eddy currents of electrons that can heat it to high temperatures very quickly. This technology seems ripe for vaporizers, so why has it taken so long for this to become a reality?
@Pipes did you sell these guys a skeletor
?
Normal e-cigarettes and BHO vapes work by passing a direct current though a resistance coil that generates heat, like a lightbulb.
Induction requires an extremely high-frequency alternating current in order to generate heat, and it took an electrical engineering genius from the team at Loto Labs to figure out how to pack it into a device you can hold in the palm of your hand. Unsurprisingly, the Loto Lux is no small vape, despite being handheld.
Patent application in hand as of May 2014, Neeraj Bhardwaj used an IndieGoGo campaign to fund his daring endeavor. The road got rocky after the company didn’t deliver on its first release date, but the Loto Labs team carried on.
After more investment, an appearance at a Cannabis Cup and some helpful media attention, Loto Labs has finally released their product and began shipping those first orders placed in 2014.
This writer hasn’t written reviews since he was more of a regular on HIGHTIMES.com, but the nerdy stoner inside couldn’t pass at the chance to take a whack at one of the most inventive feats in stoner ingenuity since the invention of the two-stage grinder.
This review is not sponsored in any way, this writer was not compensated by Loto Labs and, in fact, had to send the product back after reviewing.
The first thing you notice about the Loto Lux is its size and weight (it requires a substantial battery). Pop open the ceramic mouthpiece, if you can muster the strength, and you’ll see where the magic happens. A large red solenoid that forms a cylinder houses a removable glass insert where you put your product. This insert comes with a skinny coil in the middle. This coil is where the heat actually comes from.
Pack in a dab or two into the right insert for BHO, which has a conical shape at the bottom, and insert the coil. The device turns on with the press of a button, and the first hit you take immediately delivers a very tasty cloud of vapor. Open up the chamber once you don’t get a hit anymore, and voila, the oil is gone; no nasty residue, no charring.
This device also works for herb, but as is the case with many vapes, including this functionality was a little overzealous.
Most coil BHO vaporizers always have an acrid throat taste that is reminiscent of a “dry puff” off a normal e-liquid vaporizer, in almost every hit you take from it. Admittedly, the ones that have “ceramic coils” do taste better than metal coil vape pens, but at a severe price of vapor production.
That’s not the case with the Loto Lux; this puppy gives off big clouds with great flavor. With such a big device, it’s no surprise it provides very nice airflow, no more difficult than breathing air through a straw.
Electromagnetic energy from the solenoid passes through the insert and heats the coil without making any contact, but the heat still comes from a metal coil, so how is it really different from any other vaporizer? It has everything to do with induction eddy currents.
As a direct current flows through a coil, metal atoms resist against the energy of the electron. This random process often results in hot spots along the coil, depending on irregularities in the metal’s crystal structure. These hotspots are thought to be the culprit of off-flavors and coil burnouts.
However, the force of electromagnetic induction causes a uniform heating on the surface of the metal. Small currents, not a continuous flow from one direction or another, means no hotspots. The surface only heats the oil to the boiling point of the components in the oil.
Loto Labs is the first to use this technology for vaporizers, but it’s only natural that it will catch on with other companies. The main target market so far has been hash oil and cannabis vaping, but the Loto Lux also works for e-liquid.
Not much of an e-juicehead myself, I abstained from trying out that functionality. Interestingly, Bhardwaj’s first patent filed in 2014 had this technology adapted for glycerin/propylene glycol nicotine vapes. It was his 2015 patent that became the Loto Lux we know today for BHO and cannabis.
It’s possible that in the future, this tech will become more advanced and able to fit into smaller packages at a more affordable price.
Is it the perfect vape?
Perhaps it’s too early to tell. This product has some major room for improvement, and hopefully the designers will listen to any advice given to them. Just like waiting to buy a new phone until the kinks get worked out, this reviewer recommends waiting a few months until the Loto Lux is in prime shape.
http://hightimes.com/culture/induction-heating-rice-cookers-welders-now-vapes/
Key takeaway: "This product has some major room for improvement."
and "...this reviewer recommends waiting a few months until the Loto Lux is in prime shape."
After three freakin' years?!?
I really hate to say this, but this looks like a built-in excuse for even more delays
Induction Heating: Rice Cookers, Welders… Now Vapes?
August 02, 2017
Induction heating has limited every-day applications, aside from melting pesky bolts or as a convenient way to cook rice. However, one small company has done what others had deemed impossible—they’ve gotten this technology into a handheld vaporizer.
Discovered in 1831 by Michael Faraday, said to be the “father of electromagnetism,” the inductive effect saw one of its first uses melting scrap metal in a smelter in England.
Induction heaters, such as those found on stovetops or rice cookers, pass very high frequency alternating current through a metallic object, generating eddy currents of electrons that can heat it to high temperatures very quickly. This technology seems ripe for vaporizers, so why has it taken so long for this to become a reality?
@Pipes did you sell these guys a skeletor?Normal e-cigarettes and BHO vapes work by passing a direct current though a resistance coil that generates heat, like a lightbulb.
Induction requires an extremely high-frequency alternating current in order to generate heat, and it took an electrical engineering genius from the team at Loto Labs to figure out how to pack it into a device you can hold in the palm of your hand. Unsurprisingly, the Loto Lux is no small vape, despite being handheld.
Patent application in hand as of May 2014, Neeraj Bhardwaj used an IndieGoGo campaign to fund his daring endeavor. The road got rocky after the company didn’t deliver on its first release date, but the Loto Labs team carried on.
After more investment, an appearance at a Cannabis Cup and some helpful media attention, Loto Labs has finally released their product and began shipping those first orders placed in 2014.
This writer hasn’t written reviews since he was more of a regular on HIGHTIMES.com, but the nerdy stoner inside couldn’t pass at the chance to take a whack at one of the most inventive feats in stoner ingenuity since the invention of the two-stage grinder.
This review is not sponsored in any way, this writer was not compensated by Loto Labs and, in fact, had to send the product back after reviewing.
The first thing you notice about the Loto Lux is its size and weight (it requires a substantial battery). Pop open the ceramic mouthpiece, if you can muster the strength, and you’ll see where the magic happens. A large red solenoid that forms a cylinder houses a removable glass insert where you put your product. This insert comes with a skinny coil in the middle. This coil is where the heat actually comes from.
Pack in a dab or two into the right insert for BHO, which has a conical shape at the bottom, and insert the coil. The device turns on with the press of a button, and the first hit you take immediately delivers a very tasty cloud of vapor. Open up the chamber once you don’t get a hit anymore, and voila, the oil is gone; no nasty residue, no charring.
This device also works for herb, but as is the case with many vapes, including this functionality was a little overzealous.
Most coil BHO vaporizers always have an acrid throat taste that is reminiscent of a “dry puff” off a normal e-liquid vaporizer, in almost every hit you take from it. Admittedly, the ones that have “ceramic coils” do taste better than metal coil vape pens, but at a severe price of vapor production.
That’s not the case with the Loto Lux; this puppy gives off big clouds with great flavor. With such a big device, it’s no surprise it provides very nice airflow, no more difficult than breathing air through a straw.
Electromagnetic energy from the solenoid passes through the insert and heats the coil without making any contact, but the heat still comes from a metal coil, so how is it really different from any other vaporizer? It has everything to do with induction eddy currents.
As a direct current flows through a coil, metal atoms resist against the energy of the electron. This random process often results in hot spots along the coil, depending on irregularities in the metal’s crystal structure. These hotspots are thought to be the culprit of off-flavors and coil burnouts.
However, the force of electromagnetic induction causes a uniform heating on the surface of the metal. Small currents, not a continuous flow from one direction or another, means no hotspots. The surface only heats the oil to the boiling point of the components in the oil.
Loto Labs is the first to use this technology for vaporizers, but it’s only natural that it will catch on with other companies. The main target market so far has been hash oil and cannabis vaping, but the Loto Lux also works for e-liquid.
Not much of an e-juicehead myself, I abstained from trying out that functionality. Interestingly, Bhardwaj’s first patent filed in 2014 had this technology adapted for glycerin/propylene glycol nicotine vapes. It was his 2015 patent that became the Loto Lux we know today for BHO and cannabis.
It’s possible that in the future, this tech will become more advanced and able to fit into smaller packages at a more affordable price.
Is it the perfect vape?
Perhaps it’s too early to tell. This product has some major room for improvement, and hopefully the designers will listen to any advice given to them. Just like waiting to buy a new phone until the kinks get worked out, this reviewer recommends waiting a few months until the Loto Lux is in prime shape.
http://hightimes.com/culture/induction-heating-rice-cookers-welders-now-vapes/
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PPN
Volute of Vapor
It looks like the beta testing start now.... I thought it was already done but I filled the form and hope to be choose as a tester. I'm waiting for 2 units I payed for 3 years ago but I don't know my place in the ordering list..
Since the review it looks like the Lux is better for concentrates than flowers....
Since the review it looks like the Lux is better for concentrates than flowers....