I think we've beat this horse to death about 20 time over. If it's okay with you, after you respond, I'd like to turn to a fresh topic.
You said:
The business owner doesn't make the burgers, didn't raise the cows, didn't slaughter the cows, didn't build the physical restaurant. Workers did.
I'm not sure what the mention of the entourage means. I assume that you don't mean they are also partners.
You said:
You want me to feel bad for the capitalist because it's so HARD to figure out how to leech a little more for themselves off of other people doing actual work.
With respect to very small companies and larger small companies (sales around $100 million - 125 or so employees) I can tell you that is not happening. Over 50 years I've met with many business owners, Board of Director, sat (more like slept) on various Boards. Usually what is discussed (not necessary in this order) is current financial status, cash flow, market share, inventory levels, addressing competition, whether old equipment needs to be retired, purchasing new equipment, upcoming changes in our market, training including sexual conduct and harassment classes, making sure we are in compliance with all federal and state requirements, and many many more. Never in 50 years have I ever heard a board member or owner bring up ways to "leech" our employees. Never. Never. That would be a business killer.
You said:
Now some disgusting low life in a business may want to do this. If he lowers pay employee satisfaction goes down the drain. This hurts the company. This is rare in the business segment we are talking about. Also the company will lose employees as they will move to a company that pays better. It costs between $1,200 to $1,500 just to train new employees (the actual cost depends on the nature of the business). Smart businesses know this. Changing jobs happens all the time particularly with the younger generation. Some change jobs many many times in their work life. You don't think corporate executives and bosses work? Sure, some don't but most do. A lot of times the boss is hands on and will micromanage much to the chagrin of the employees. Most bosses watch over the business as if it were their child. If I was still actively working I'd take you with me for a couple days. I'd even buy you lunch !!
You said:
I understand you prefer authoritarianism. There are several meanings of this word. I am unable to agree or disagree with you on this one because I don't know what you mean.
And saying that I prefer authoritarianism is UDDERLY ridiculous. And I'm going to MILK this for what's worth. Alright, I'll MOOve along. Hey you brought the cow into the conversation.
You said:
In a collectively owned operation, they wouldn't be an "employee" they'd be a co-owner so your question doesn't make sense. I think this is your main confusion.
Well, you're right as I am confused!! Help me this. The company made no profit so the co-owner (flipper) won't receive compensation? By the way that would be illegal in today's capitalistic environment. My question makes perfect sense as I asked what I just asked again (how much do we pay the flipper). How is the flipper supposed to pay his bills, buy food (well I guess he could eat the burgers), etc. Please confirm that in this socialistic example the flipper doesn't get paid because as a "partner" he shares the loss.
You said:
This is more "heavy is the head that wears the crown" bullshit. "You peasants don't understand how hard it is for the Lord to manage his holdings
I am surprised you used this quote because it is accurate. Here is the what the quote means:
The phrase "heavy is the head that wears the crown" signifies that those in positions of leadership or power bear a significant burden of responsibility and face numerous challenges. It suggests that while the outward appearance of leadership might seem glamorous or enviable, the reality involves constant pressure, difficult decisions, and the weight of expectations from others. This is an accurate statement. Idon't where the yellow line came from I don't know how to remove it.
This is so true. Again 50 years of experience. If you don't believe what the quote says indicates my assumption suspicions that you in fact never owned a business, ran a business, and are basically clueless in business operations. Now with socialism I think you are knowledgeable and much than me. Before you get angry remember you said I prefer authoritarianism. You made an assumption (of course you maybe right but I highly doubt it). My assumption is no less valuable than yours. I cannot repair a refrigerator, I cannot repair a dishwasher, I cannot not repair a HVAC unit. The difference between us is I freely admit I know nothing about these appliances (well actually I know how to turn the dishwasher on) while you pretend to be expert in business operations. I'm sorry - still love you - and I owe you a cup of coffee !!
I always have one last thing. I don't like posting my resume online. One reason why is when some folks realize the level of education the exclaim "Oh you're a college boy - so you know everything". in a condescending tone. However I have already stated that I have been educated to Doctoral level, have 50 years of business practice, teaching, and consulting. What I did not mention and I will now is that among everything else I am a CPA and hold a Masters Degree in Tax Law. So yes you can say I am an authority on these matters. You're really not going to pay the flipper?