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CANtalk

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Trump's 2023 Christmas tweet
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Not to be outdone, here he is in 2024.


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Edit: missed half the crazy

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vapviking

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Okay, not a news article, but this does qualify as interesting "stuff", so here ya go.
I was listening to YouTube Music, the song by John Prine called Sam Stone, and what started playing next was this by artist called Sam Stone, his track, Luigi Mangione
"Most people want to be like Mike.
I want to be printin' 3d like Luigi..."

 

florduh

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The 🙏Lord Baby Jesus🙏 has delivered me a late Christmas present! A Civil War is brewing in the knuckle-dragger MAGA Movement.

A MAGA ‘Civil War’ on X between Musk and the far right over H-1B visas




Elon Musk is a racist piece of shit. But before that, he is a Capitalist. And Capitalists love both undocumented immigrant labor, and H1B immigrant labor. Because they can underpay them. And because they can abuse these workers without fear of them complaining. Because the Capitalists can always hold the threat of violent deportation over their heads.

The 4chan Nazis are mad:
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President Mr. Trump: PLEASE deport the Traitor Foreigner (Illegal?) Elon Musk! And nationalize SpaceX (America First?)

If you do this, I will buy a MAGA Hat and won't complain when you usher in a global depression with your dumbfuck trade policies!

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Radwin Bodnic

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I unrealistically hope that my kid will learn in school about the Gaza war the same way I've been taught about WWII and the Shoa.

And absolutely no governing official that remain silent and inactive in front of these events does not deserve any kind of consideration apart being charged for complicity.
 

florduh

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And absolutely no governing official that remain silent and inactive in front of these events does not deserve any kind of consideration apart being charged for complicity.

I would love to have politicians who merely remain silent and inactive. Every politician in America, save for about 5, have offered full diplomatic and material support for this mass murder campaign.

As for complicity, "journalists" were executed at Nuremburg. The absurdity of American news media bitching and crying about the "political violence" of 🤌Luigi Mangione🤌 is incredible. These same talking heads have been doing Der Stürmer level propaganda in service of an ethnic cleansing campaign mostly targeting children.

Speaking of which, about 60% of Americans are now considered to be radical terrorists (Hamas?) by the NYPD:


Days after the murder, the NYPD circulated an intelligence report focusing not just on alleged killer Luigi Mangione but even ordinary people expressing sympathy for him online. Warning of “a wide range of extremists” that “may view Mangione as a martyr,” the report’s title singles out “disdain for corporate greed.”

Not loving where the future is heading if "disdain for corporate greed" is being considered "radical extremism" by law enforcement :shrug:
 

TigoleBitties

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I unrealistically hope that my kid will learn in school about the Gaza war the same way I've been taught about WWII and the Shoa.

And absolutely no governing official that remain silent and inactive in front of these events does not deserve any kind of consideration apart being charged for complicity.
The things happening in Gaza now are indeed horrific and the media spotlight is there, but it really sucks that there are any number of major atrocities happening all over the world and most aren't on our radar.

North Korea has committed unspeakable crimes against their population and there are some North Korean families that have up to three generations in prison, for example. This has been going on for decades. The news ebbs and flows and for me, it's depressing to know that the headline of the day is one amongst many. ☹️
 

florduh

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the media spotlight is there, but it really sucks that there are any number of major atrocities happening all over the world and most aren't on our radar.

There's a reason many Americans are focused on Gaza. Our government is paying for every 2,000 pound bomb that gets dropped on a tent. Tens of billions of dollars worth of bombs being dropped on a territory the size of Manhattan. All while crying poverty every time anyone suggests spending money to solve problems at home.

There's also the absurdity aspect. The media tells me I have to pretend all those children in Palestine deserve to die screaming. I'm not expected to pretend for the atrocities America's enemies commit.

North Korea has committed unspeakable crimes against their population

This is true. But the people outside of prisons in North Korea aren't exactly having a good time either. In no small part because our country has been conducting siege warfare on them for decades.

No good reason for it either. There are political prisoners wasting away in Saudi and Qatari prisons as well. Pretty sure if we can allow the 9/11 Guys to participate in global trade, we can do the same for North Korea.

I also imagine that if a much more powerful nation killed a third of the people living in America back when my grandparents were grown adults, we probably wouldn't be enjoying all of the freedumbs we have today :shrug:
 

florduh

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I met Jimmy Carter once. And after he left office, he was an absolute mensch. But there's a lot of mythology surrounding his Presidency.


Both Libs and Conservatives have this insane belief that he was some sort of far Left Winger. In reality, on economic policy, he was to the Right of Richard Nixon.

Deregulation, privatization, union busting, cutting social services. All of the Neoliberal bullshit that has led to America having worse income inequality than pre-revolutionary France began under Carter, not Reagan.

The biggest difference between him and Reagan was that Ronnie, a lifelong liar, told America tax cuts are MAGIC and would make everyone rich.

Carter also gets credit for never firing a shot as President. I don't want to speak too ill of the dead, but it might be worth looking into exactly why the Manhattan skyline looks very different today than it did during the 70's....😬😬😬

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chillAtGVC

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The things happening in Gaza now are indeed horrific and the media spotlight is there, but it really sucks that there are any number of major atrocities happening all over the world and most aren't on our radar.

North Korea has committed unspeakable crimes against their population and there are some North Korean families that have up to three generations in prison, for example. This has been going on for decades. The news ebbs and flows and for me, it's depressing to know that the headline of the day is one amongst many. ☹️
We hear more about Gaza as there’s so much anti-Israel sentiment in the world. You hear almost nothing about what’s going on in Sudan and surrounding areas, which is often more horrific. Our news is very very selective in reporting the atrocities around the world to us.
 

florduh

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We hear more about Gaza as there’s so much anti-Israel sentiment in the world. You hear almost nothing about what’s going on in Sudan and surrounding areas, which is often more horrific. Our news is very very selective in reporting the atrocities around the world to us.

“Why are you talking about this atrocity, and not that other one”- Guy who almost certainly doesn’t give a shit about either atrocity.
 
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TigoleBitties

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We hear more about Gaza as there’s so much anti-Israel sentiment in the world. You hear almost nothing about what’s going on in Sudan and surrounding areas, which is often more horrific. Our news is very very selective in reporting the atrocities around the world to us.
I agree. News is a business. No one seems to want to hear about good news apparently. Atrocities sell and there's no shortage of them. It just depends which one is the sexiest and most current. If they continue for too long then it just gets boring. On to the next.

I really dislike the format of the news these days as it's all bad or mostly bad. A lot of doom and gloom with a dash of fearmongering and hyperbole for good measure. Not everything happening in the world is all bad all the time. Most news formats are 98% bad news and then maybe a fluff piece about a squirrel that can waterski or something inane at the close. There's a huge bias towards news that will "sell" and that's determined to be virtually all bad news for most networks.

There's a reason many Americans are focused on Gaza. Our government is paying for every 2,000 pound bomb that gets dropped on a tent. Tens of billions of dollars worth of bombs being dropped on a territory the size of Manhattan. All while crying poverty every time anyone suggests spending money to solve problems at home.

There's also the absurdity aspect. The media tells me I have to pretend all those children in Palestine deserve to die screaming. I'm not expected to pretend for the atrocities America's enemies commit.
What I'm saying is that Gaza is the flavor of the month. It seems disingenuous to be incensed right at this moment in time when this has been happening for so long. America and other superpowers have financed terrorism for decades all over the globe and continue to. It's how things work. Don't like a government in a developing nation? Fund the insurgency. Is the existing government corrupt but with a Western slant? Prop them up.

What's happening in Gaza is legit terrible but it doesn't seem that even the outsized attention it's receiving in world news will make America rise up and change course. Is everyone desensitized?

I remember watching school shooting after school shooting happen in America with awe and wonder when the "enough is enough" moment would come. Still hasn't.
 
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florduh

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I remember watching school shooting after school shooting happen in America with awe and wonder when the "enough is enough" moment would come. Still hasn't

The biggest news network in America, along with the entire Right Wing media landscape, contextualizes and makes excuses every mass shooting,

The same thing is happening with Israel's mass murder campaign in Palestine. Except it isn't just the Right Wing media. It's the entire mainstream media. CNN loves inviting IDF spokespeople on to explain why burning children alive by the thousands is good and cool.

This idea that American media is doing "Israel hatred" is, frankly, delusional. Look at my posts in the Fake News thread over the past 14 months. I don't know what news that dude's watching. Al-Jazeera? Speaking of which, here's a list of confirmed dead in Gaza:


It takes a full minute to get through the victims under 1 year old. Keep in mind, these are just the bodies that have been identified. Can't imagine what it's gonna look like once the rubble is cleared.

And unlike the genocide in Sudan, American taxpayers paid for every one of those dead bodies. Billions of dollars. Fully supported by both political parties.
 

TigoleBitties

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The biggest news network in America, along with the entire Right Wing media landscape, contextualizes and makes excuses every mass shooting,

The same thing is happening with Israel's mass murder campaign in Palestine. Except it isn't just the Right Wing media. It's the entire mainstream media. CNN loves inviting IDF spokespeople on to explain why burning children alive by the thousands is good and cool.

This idea that American media is doing "Israel hatred" is, frankly, delusional. Look at my posts in the Fake News thread over the past 14 months. I don't know what news that dude's watching. Al-Jazeera? Speaking of which, here's a list of confirmed dead in Gaza:


It takes a full minute to get through the victims under 1 year old. Keep in mind, these are just the bodies that have been identified. Can't imagine what it's gonna look like once the rubble is cleared.

And unlike the genocide in Sudan, American taxpayers paid for every one of those dead bodies. Billions of dollars. Fully supported by both political parties.
I think we have our answer. If the media is powerful enough to whitewash the killing of American children by Americans on American soil in schools, where's the hope that they're going to suddenly get informed and care more about Palestinian children dying halfway across the world?

If you can't even clean up the mess in your backyard, you're usually not concerned about someone else's mess, even though you may have caused it.
 

florduh

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If you can't even clean up the mess in your backyard, you're usually not concerned about someone else's mess, even though you may have caused it.

Yeah. We're a nation of Little Hitlers only concerned with our treats. Treatlers, if you will. COVID proved that conclusively. The Treatlers will start caring if Netanyahu draws America into a war with Iran, because that will mean $8/gallon gas.

That having been said, a few years ago it was inconceivable to see Pro-Palestinian sentiment being uttered in public. Now, it's fairly common. Especially in younger generations. They don't watch CNN. They don't have Jake Tapper explaining why the mangled toddler bodies they see on their phone every day are good and cool.

So, there is some hope for the future. Not a lot. But some.
 

florduh

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Cali raised the minimum wage for fast food workers to $20 per hour. Conservative media said it would cost jobs. It didn't. Employment in these jobs went UP. But it doesn't matter. The paid Right Wing liars have successfully convinced a majority of people otherwise.

 
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