Discontinued Inhalater XP

[hiphiphooray]

Thanks for the positive post.
I too love my unit, which functions very well indeed.
I do not mind hearing about bad experiences, but it gets old when the same members keep popping in every few posts to remind us that they did not like their unit. We get the idea. Some did not like their unit. Post your disdain once and move on.
@vaplen nice post.

I know it can be frustrating hearing the same people complain about their unit, but I think there is some important information there. The majority of people complaining are old users, who saw the XP lose its power and performance to fix quality control issues. Anyone who has used a Q2 Inh XP feels like the company sold out, taking an easy fix out to make their product no longer break, but function less. I would argue its more frustrating for them to hear new users praising an obviously inferior unit. :/

Slowing watching your amazing XP break and then return inferior makes people feel cheated. But new users don't see that because they never saw the true potential of the XP.

While these types of posts may get 'old,' I think they are necessary for the betterment of the Inhalater. So ignore users if you will, but I for one would like to see the Inh 05 with vapor quality equal to the Q2 XP. No harsh hot temps with ghetto aerocapsules as a solution, and no whispy conduction vapor.

Hopefully Inhalater will hear the concerns and won't dismiss they as simply getting 'old.'

 

[Old School]

Well, I came here because I finally had a chunk of money to burn and an itch for a new vape but aftert that last post I think I'll keep moving, again.

I always wanted this vape to be awesome but warranty problems and hearing that units are still being temperamental keep driving me away.

If the price was a little better (~ 149.99) I think I would be more willing to jump in no matter the issues simply because this vape does everything I want. Maybe a price drop will happen soon?

Edit: this thing has been on my wish list for a long time, I really would like to see it happen soon.

This company is in a much better place these days.. IMO they went through your typical start up pains... I have noticed and experienced improvements all the way around communications, production quality and an eagerness to interact with their consumers to improve there product..... on a good path.....
I can tell you as a consumer that although I will still say it does not quite equal the performance of my Q2 AKA the "Beast" it is a very close runner up {Yes I'm one of those Q2 fans HipHip has referred to} {and yes I too want them to try to get back that performance level} but that all aside in response to your concerns.... I just purchased 2 new Q1 2014 INH XP's and their build quality was solid...by far the best I've seen and I have owned and operated Q2 2013, Q3 2013, and Q4 2013 and now I have a 3 month old Q4 2013 with the slanted ever so slightly switch knob, which has me concerned about the pressure felt by the USB port but so far it has been rock solid....and it was heavily used before I got my Q1 spare.....and now these Q1's we just got almost a month ago.... no more slant switch knob feels really good and smooth and best of all I can't see the USB port moving from side to side like my Q4 clearly does......
Soooooo..... if you have been waiting and really want one of these now is a very good time as it would appear as though they have addressed many of their production issues {tweaks}.....now even though I tell you all of these wonderful things and feel very strongly that you will receive a very good product extremely worthy of it's price tag and my Q1's feel very much like they will have no problem lasting the year and then some......even though I'm clearly giving the thumbs up on whats left of the XP's.......
You just might want to wait just a little bit longer to see how well the INH05's turn out..... issue there is obviously the time in waiting which could possibly be an additional quarter......
For me the choice was clear I went with cover all my bets.....I have a Q4 a spare Q1 both XP's and I'm happily going to be beta testing at least 1 INH05 and should that turn out to reclaim or succeed the performance of my beloved Q2.......you can bet your last dollar I will find a way to get another spare INH05...

I know it can be frustrating hearing the same people complain about their unit, but I think there is some important information there. The majority of people complaining are old users, who saw the XP lose its power and performance to fix quality control issues.

Spot on it was extremely frustrating especially when they seemed to be blaming it on a Max Heat setting.....and also whats with the "old users" bit.....I prefer previous users.....

Anyone who has used a Q2 Inh XP feels like the company sold out, taking an easy fix out to make their product no longer break, but function less. I would argue its more frustrating for them to hear new users praising an obviously inferior unit. :/

I'm not so sure I'd view it as a sell out..... I felt more as if the change control process was a bit loose back then and they really don't know what was changed.....

Slowing watching your amazing XP break and then return inferior makes people feel cheated. But new users don't see that because they never saw the true potential of the XP.

While these types of posts may get 'old,' I think they are necessary for the betterment of the Inhalater. So ignore users if you will, but I for one would like to see the Inh 05 with vapor quality equal to the Q2 XP. No harsh hot temps with ghetto aerocapsules as a solution, and no whispy conduction vapor.

Hopefully Inhalater will hear the concerns and won't dismiss they as simply getting 'old.'

AMEN spot on .... What he said......oh Yea I liked the way you brought the old back into play.....very smooth

 

[Vitolo]

Mine is still a joy to use!

 

[HerbalHealing]

Even IF the current XP's are not as good as the Q2, they are still better than most (if not all) portables out there IMO. Personally I prefer the newer models and see them as the best overall units yet. This is just my opinion and many here disagree, which I'm ok with as I can respect their opinions as long as I'm entitled to express mine.

I don't think the difference between the 2 would change its ranking amongst other vapes as the q2 might be ranked higher for some, but no other vape should fit in between them IMO.

Maybe I got lucky with my units....I don't know, but I absolutely love my xp's. I don't think new buyers would be disappointed. Best portable extraction I've seen.

Really looking forward to the inh005.

 

[Old School]

I'm in 100% agreement with everything you said....Q2 has become that really big fish story that got away. The build quality of the newer models are the best yet...these units have profoundly altered my lifestyle and all of it has been GOOD... I too LOVE these things.....good clean extraction is what it is all about for me as well.....

Looking to make this my shortest post yet.....

So looking forward to the INH05....also...

 

[Sonics420]

Looking forward to the inh005 also, I was one of the first to have the XP so it has been rough getting replacements over and over. But I am still a fan of this company and their vape.

I still feel like Q1, Q2 and now on to Q3 XP is the best vaporizer when it comes to portability, battery life and extraction.

I have an ascent now that I love and use daily, but I dont think the extraction and portability is up to par with the XP. With the ascent it takes a little longer to load and unload the bowl, the XP is just so easy and fast I can be done loading in more than half the time it takes to load my Ascent..

I really cant wait to get the new replacement from Gregg, been missing my XP for the last month or so and my portability has taken a hit..

 

[2clicker]

i have returned my Q2 xp for store credit. i will be keeping my eyes on the 005 tho.

for portability i just use concentrates and ejmix now.

 

[vaplen]

i have returned my Q2 xp for store credit. i will be keeping my eyes on the 005 tho.

for portability i just use concentrates and ejmix now.

Really glad you did this. Hopefully they will find what was lost.

 

[2clicker]

Really glad you did this. Hopefully they will find what was lost.

just out of curiosity... why is that?

and yeah. i hope they can build it again for sure. i miss my xp, but i dont wanna chance getting a lesser version back in its place.

 

[vaplen]

just out of curiosity... why is that?

and yeah. i hope they can build it again for sure. i miss my xp, but i dont wanna chance getting a lesser version back in its place.

I answered your question in my response, guess it wasn't clear. "Hopefully they will find what was lost". I have only used the Q4 which satisfies me very much . I just hear people talking of the Q2 all the time. Which I would obviously want if it was better. Why settle when a good situation could be better?

 

[Old School]

Looking forward to the inh005 also, I was one of the first to have the XP so it has been rough getting replacements over and over. But I am still a fan of this company and their vape.

I still feel like Q1, Q2 and now on to Q3 XP is the best vaporizer when it comes to portability, battery life and extraction.

I have an ascent now that I love and use daily, but I dont think the extraction and portability is up to par with the XP. With the ascent it takes a little longer to load and unload the bowl, the XP is just so easy and fast I can be done loading in more than half the time it takes to load my Ascent..

I really cant wait to get the new replacement from Gregg, been missing my XP for the last month or so and my portability has taken a hit..

I'm so glad you posted .... I have been lurking in the Ascent thread as so many folks rave about the taste identifying the all glass path as the primary reason for the long last flavor.......I think you and I are very close in experience requirements.....so when your replacement does arrive and to be fair wait until you have had it a week maybe......please sign back on and tell us if the Ascent is still getting "air time" or has the return of the XP resulted in a vacation extension for the Ascent...?
I want to pull the trigger but if it can't extract as well as the XP does....I won't see the point really..... I'm quickly becoming a huge fan of the new addition of tasting my herb but I often remind myself that even the not so great tasting 4th run on #9....can be a bit yucky however it is nothing like that nasty tasting smoke I used to enjoy...... what the Hell was I thinking.....
For me it is all about replacing the smoking experience.....and the XP delivers an even better experience than smoking can...and the really huge kicker is that I use less....and I mean much less....in fact it is almost half.....at that point I was really wondering why the hell I was smoking for all of these years {40+}..... interesting side note though..... when my XP died and I had to fall back to my VB 2.0 it was both the lesser experience and the sensation that I was having to use more herb .....lead me back to smoking again until my replacement finally arrived.....
I'm once again very happy to report that I haven't smoked since....so nasty tasting and inefficient but was able to give me something the VB 2.0 was falling short on... I guess I shouldn't be so rough on the VB 2.0... If I worked at it I could get there, so at that point smoking became much quicker and easier....

 

[vaplen]

@Old School Can you explain your technique to use the xp? You said you use it up to 4 runs. I usually just do 2 runs back to back with temps ranging 5.5-8

 

[bubbha ho-tep]

Ive been portable vape shoppin for a while now, watching this thread and many others.
I really think the xp would be the best for me in terms of vapor production, ease of use and stealth. Honestly the only reason i keep second guessing myself is because 250$ is alot to spend on a unit with a "sticker" finish. I really wish the numbers were engraved in the product. I feel like this would make a big difference in many peoples first impression of the device. I hope we see this improvement with the inh005.

 

[Old School]

@Old School Can you explain your technique to use the xp? You said you use it up to 4 runs. I usually just do 2 runs back to back with temps ranging 5.5-8

I typically start out on 5 or 5.5....the strain plays a huge part in this for example I have 1 that I have to start down at 4.5.....anyway my 1st run will almost always stay on the level I started with....if I'm in a group I may need to jump up .5 before starting the next run a whole number from where I started and again if by myself it will usually stay at that number for the entire run..... the 3rd run is were I dial her up to ensure the cap has been fully extracted....I will often start this run at #7 and be ready to step it up a bit quicker....8 then 9 if need be.... but since I got my replacement I have found that I needed to begin yet a 4th run in some cases......I rarely need to use the entire 8.5 minutes but with me it is all about getting as much extraction as possible.....
When my 1st XP {Q2} arrived April 22 2013 I had read about it being a good idea to have a burn off...and inhalater didn't feel it was necessary but if we felt we would like to we should not do it empty..... so he suggested using some ABV.... well I did this and I was getting a ton of vapor from my VB 2.0 ABV..... and I worked very hard to get my technique down and thought I was doing a good job extracting using my VB 2.0 ..... well sadly I wasn't.... but my XP was.....effortlessly in fact......the only learning curve I had to get down was to not hit it so fast.....and the flashing light helped with that so..... the rest was history...

If I work at it {don't wait too long between draws} by dialing it up high to start out then drop it down.... a method recommended by Inhalater to get closer to the Q2 performance....I can get it back down to 3 runs.....or if I have help....meaning less time in-between draws again....

 

[vaplen]

I typically start out on 5 or 5.5....the strain plays a huge part in this for example I have 1 that I have to start down at 4.5.....anyway my 1st run will almost always stay on the level I started with....if I'm in a group I may need to jump up .5 before starting the next run a whole number from where I started and again if by myself it will usually stay at that number for the entire run..... the 3rd run is were I dial her up to ensure the cap has been fully extracted....I will often start this run at #7 and be ready to step it up a bit quicker....8 then 9 if need be.... but since I got my replacement I have found that I needed to begin yet a 4th run in some cases......I rarely need to use the entire 8.5 minutes but with me it is all about getting as much extraction as possible.....
When my 1st XP {Q2} arrived April 22 2013 I had read about it being a good idea to have a burn off...and inhalater didn't feel it was necessary but if we felt we would like to we should not do it empty..... so he suggested using some ABV.... well I did this and I was getting a ton of vapor from my VB 2.0 ABV..... and I worked very hard to get my technique down and thought I was doing a good job extracting using my VB 2.0 ..... well sadly I wasn't.... but my XP was.....effortlessly in fact......the only learning curve I had to get down was to not hit it so fast.....and the flashing light helped with that so..... the rest was history...

If I work at it {don't wait too long between draws} by dialing it up high to start out then drop it down.... a method recommended by Inhalater to get closer to the Q2 performance....I can get it back down to 3 runs.....or if I have help....meaning less time in-between draws again....

Thanks for your reply, I'll be sure to give that a try. The only concern I have with that is that yes it does extract more but at the same time kills the xp battery for other sessions. I guess I will just have to figure out what is the most effective for me. Although my routine sounds like yours just shorter (2 cycles) How many full sessions do you get with a full charge using your technique?

 

[Old School]

Absolutely....your concern is "spot on" it does tend to do just that....which is why I've gone ahead and purchased spares....not just one but 2 because I will as often as I can and for as long as I can go to the beach were I have many friends that I am slowly converting away from combustion {the dark side} into the light......
Like I said if I stay focused and work at it {less time between draws} I can get a vacuum loaded capsule completely extracted {as best I can anyway} in 3 runs....another interesting note about my old Q2 I would like to let her cool for a few minutes between runs but with my replacements I find it works better if I jump straight into another run {these newer units need the heat build up} so if you don't let her cool down between runs it also cuts down on possibly needing that 4th run....remember I don't usually need that 4th run.....something I used to say about the Q2's 3rd run......
Ah the number of sessions question.....the how is so important on this one.....but I think we might be close enough in that area I will go ahead and try to answer......my replacements do in fact seem to get more actual sessions {runs} I will tell you that I religiously keep both of my units plugged it if I'm ever near a power source.....but I do as I mentioned go to the beach and the 1st unit up to bat will always run out {something I don't like to do as it worries me a bit} anyway I almost get 7 runs but others with different "hows" have report as many as 9 runs....so you are rewarded for staying away from the higher temps.....BUT..... it becomes a personal preference....now you might think I do it to get that last little bit of medicine out of my herb.....but that's not why....{well maybe partially} the main reason is the higher temps are when the CBN's are vaporized which I have learned to associate with the body buzz {pain relief} so IMHO this Inhalater design is one of the very few out there especially in the portable arena that can successfully vaporize the CBN's....which has been able to keep me from smoking....

GEEZ I sure am a long winded bastard......

I'm hearing rumblings that I might be able to write a review on the new INH05....possibly as early as next week sometime......Beta of course.....but this should mean production is write around the corner maybe late Q2 early Q3...... I'm so looking forward to it....... there are pictures btw.... maybe Greg might post a couple....... REALLY good news was......I spotted an all black unit....VERY NICE....

 

[Snake Plissken]

I have never heard anyone associate cbn w/ pain relief. The only 'positive' attribute I've ever heard is that it makes you sleepy. It is not even a true cannabinoid imo, rather a waste byproduct of thc. While everyone's goals are different, mine are to never let my stash degrade and get old enough to have much cbn. As cbn's boiling point is 365 degrees, I would assume all portable vaporizers would extract it?

Quick q: is everyone's newer unit extracting evenly? No matter what I do, the abv always looks like chocolate milk at either end - and completely burnt/black in the middle.

 

[Old School]

Yea.... I don't like commenting on the science side of things as I by NO means any kind of expert.... I likely tied body buzz and pain relief together in my mind as I was reading and learning about all this vapor business....ha ha my bad..... you made it sound as though the CBN percentage would increase with age.? I wasn't aware of that.... I've learned that each strain has differing percentages of THC verses CBN and that grows pay very close attention to these 2 percentages....
What I do know for sure is..... that by the time I've had my way with a vacuum filled cap..... I'm definitely feeling NO pain...

Yes I often notice some herb that doesn't looked to be completely spent.....and yes it is now at both ends whereas the Q2 I only noticed that on the one end {the opening of the cap}... I figured they may have adjusted the heater position....as a few members were posting that they were trying to use spacers to prevent that from happening....

I have found again if I stay focused on the mission at hand...it is also more evenly cooked....its when I get to careless and talk too much {or we all do} thats when I see any of my typical complaints....ex; it gets the over toasted taste, it isn't cooked evenly, it takes more runs to finish it off......
It was one of the many things I noticed about my replacement that my beloved Q2 didn't seem to fall victim too if I was a bit complacent..... too complacent and she over cooked things too but not near as quick too..... so I have found it pays to be more on top of these newer units when using them....

 

[Snake Plissken]

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but maybe you are thinking of cbd's? That is the cannabinoid most often referred to as a pain reliever.

Cbn's are a product of degradation. Thc degrades to cbns - usually through age, exposure to the elements, etc. You do want your thca to convert to thc through a proper cure, this is considered a 'conversion' as opposed to a degradation.

 

[HerbalHealing]

For me it is all about replacing the smoking experience.....and the XP delivers an even better experience than smoking can...and the really huge kicker is that I use less....and I mean much less....in fact it is almost half.....at that point I was really wondering why the hell I was smoking for all of these years {40+}.....

Yes! It still amazes me that so little goes such a long way. Especially after the tolerances I've built up over the years.
I actually tried an experiment (using same herb and grind). Usually, one fresh load of this particular bud gives me 3 good sessions before I empty and refill. I figure I'm emptying prematurely and thought that If I refill, I'm getting more medicine for the battery power I'm using up. I wondered if power was not an issue just how far could I take it? Well I went 6 sessions back to back starting from 4 moving up 1 each session until I was at max for the 6th. Although the taste was reduced the vapor was still VERY dense and definitely contained medicine. It was actually denser as I moved up. Even after 5 runs. After the 6th I just couldn't continue the experiment due to reaching my limit (man do I love experiments lol), and ended it.
The buzz was different for sure since I don't typically extract some of the elements that are released at 7+ but it was night and I was not concerned over being too sedated. Usually I could go through 3 loads over 9 sessions at a max of 6 during a typical evening for my norm. After this series of sessions with one load I was pretty much done and didn't need any more for the night.
Now I have to re-think my refill frequency strategy as I now know I was still wasting much medicine after almost halving my consumption from my combusting days.
If I keep it at my usual max of 6, I get less vapor after the 4th run so turning it up can really extract a lot more if that's what one wants.
Not all strains I use behave exactly the same as this was using my best grade. I've tried with weaker bud which still works great but perhaps a few sessions less before fully extracted (term fully used loosely).

I now go through the least bud that I ever have in my entire herbal life, but am more medicated than ever at the same time. Something I never imagined could be possible.

 

[Old School]

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but maybe you are thinking of cbd's? That is the cannabinoid most often referred to as a pain reliever.

Cbn's are a product of degradation. Thc degrades to cbns - usually through age, exposure to the elements, etc. You do want your thca to convert to thc through a proper cure, this is considered a 'conversion' as opposed to a degradation.

Nice..... I do believe you are correct..... on all counts.....oops.... Guess I could use a refreshers course......

HH thank you for the post.....I have also re-examined how I have been consuming.....6 runs....thats taking it really slow.....I thought I was taking it too slow but I do so enjoy the taste....my friends and I have come up with names for the runs so we now what to expect when its being passed to you....
1st run is - fruity or piney
2nd run is - chicken noodle
3rd run is called popcorn
and of course as we near the end it is referred to burnt popcorn...which I've heard used here by others...

It really does come down to a balance of battery life, lust for flavor, and drive for full extraction....

Not all strains I use behave exactly the same as this was using my best grade. I've tried with weaker bud which still works great but perhaps a few sessions less before fully extracted (term fully used loosely).

I now go through the least bud that I ever have in my entire herbal life, but am more medicated than ever at the same time. Something I never imagined could be possible.

Totally agree with your observation of differing strains..."spot on".... and I too am just amazed at how much less I use now that I have purchased an Inhalater XP.......what an idiot I have been for all of these years.....but then again this design wasn't around back in the day....I've tried a few over the years but nothing like the XP..... so happy to have gambled one more time and have this happen to me.

Complete LIFE changer........the INH05 has some mighty big shoes to try and fill......and I'm hoping for a home run......I'm hopeful it may just be in the configuration....we'll see....

 

[vaplen]

@Old School Thanks for the replies. I realized that maybe I was rushing it a bit but I am enjoying bowls much more when I do at least 3 runs (still haven't tried 4 yet lol). So if I'm in a rush I can do a smaller bowl and turn the temp up but if I wanna get more out of it I can do more runs which will def help me conserve product in the future.

I also wanted to ask you why you keep quoting "spot on" is it a pun referring to the units light? Every time I turn mine on I think I'm "cracking the flare" lol.

Is it bad to have the unit on the charger often after a couple of runs? I always am worried about battery life and preferably would like to have a full charge when I am out and about.

No other portable currently on the market can compare IMO. Definitely enjoy reading everyone's experience I learn a lot about this unit from the forums.

 

[Old School]

Too funny....I used black nail polish....just dabbed a tiny bit on the inside of the LED cover....however it is now really hard to see in the daylight.....just right after the sun goes down.....

I have my unit on the charger as often as I can....this unit is able to accept the helping hand from the charger.....it will still need to draw from the battery but it will be less of a draw......
Now I do take some precautions....for example I don't like to plug in while it is currently in the middle of a run....as I worry this would be the best opportunity to cause problems with the charging circuitry..... for a while there I wouldn't even take it off the charger without turning it off first....but I do that on a regular basis and it seems to handle it just fine......
I'm pretty sure I notice a difference in performance when the battery is nearing the end.....so I too prefer to have them topped off at all times.....
I also don't feel it is a good idea to NOT let these batteries weaken to the point the XP won't come on... so now I tend to count my runs and after 6 I run back to the car and put it on the charger and take the fully charged XP off the charger....repeat as necessary.....

I too have enjoyed and learned from the forum......I really enjoy having the manufacturers being a aprt of it all......both very interesting as well as valuable for both/all parties

 

[vaplen]

I wish I had 2 xp's, better yet that they let us easily access the battery so we could swap out with charged ones. THAT would be life-changing and a very big perk over other vapes currently on the market. Doesn't seem like a very hard idea to implement but I am not to familiar with how these units are put together. Is this plausible or am I just dreaming? lol

@Inhalater have you ever thought of this?

Lastly, I am a bit concerned with the area under the heating chamber screen. How often should one clean there and what could I use to get it out? I use my xp a couple times a day and can imagine oils getting stuck up there.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I wish I had 2 xp's, better yet that they let us easily access the battery so we could swap out with charged ones. THAT would be life-changing and a very big perk over other vapes currently on the market. Doesn't seem like a very hard idea to implement but I am not to familiar with how these units are put together. Is this plausible or am I just dreaming? lol

@Inhalater have you ever thought of this?

Lastly, I am a bit concerned with the area under the heating chamber screen. How often should one clean there and what could I use to get it out? I use my xp a couple times a day and can imagine oils getting stuck up there.

I've used a dental pick to pull the chamber screen and clean it. Never seems to get bad - even w/ kief and hash loads. The screen in the capsules need cleaned much more often (also removed w/ dental pick). It's hard to even tell how restrictive the draw is getting until you change the screen in the cap and notice the difference.