I'm looking for a discrete and classy session oriented portable for snowboarding, mountain biking, and nights out. I've had my eye on this vape since it first came out. 
I'm currently leaning towards the Goboof Alpha or the Indica as a boarding/out and about vape.
My daily driver (and only remaining vape) is a Lotus. Amazing vape but not the most discrete! I'm a fan of quality, discreteness (smell, transporting, storage), tastey vapor, simplicity, easy cleaning, and reliability in my vapes.
From what I gather:
Win Alpha:
- I prefer the look. Smaller, less conspicuous looking, and more discrete in use and probably easier to use with a downhill/motorcycle helmet that covers one's chin without the clasp lid. Both seem high quality.
- The Alpha's warm up time is ~30 seconds while the Indica is ~80 seconds. This is pretty big for me.
- The Alpha has better controls then the Indica imo. It seems like the Alpha's dial would be easier to use with gloves on. AT and AP sound cool and three temp settings seems like plenty.
- Indica has lots of gaps above the bowl for stuff to get trapped. Someone mentioned that the Alpha has a narrow gap near the bottom of the bowl but I cant see one? I saw that 3d printed filler on here. Maybe I would be disciplined enough to use it. Advantage Alpha.
- The Indica has that cheap looking plastic base when you open the lid (they should have frosted it esp on the matte black model).
- Alpha is US made and few/no reports of off gassing. I've been seeing a lot of reports of off taste initially, off gassing, and other QC issues here. Furthermore, with a vape with a non user replaceable battery quality is extra important. :/
Win Indica:
- The pin in the Alpha bowl looks annoying. I get why they added it. I can just see myself getting burnt on it and dreading emptying the bowl because i can't find a toothpick or i'm out and about. I guess i could just keep a pick in my abv container and wait until i get home and it's cool to empty it. But then i'm carrying around a potentially smelly unit. The indica on the other hand wants you to carry around a full unit and seems to take smell into account with it's design/lid. I suppose the indica has a deep bowl which is going to be a pain to empty as well.
- The indica seems like it has a nicer bowl lid (which probably contributes to that area getting dirty). I dig that it sticks to the side of the unit. The Alpha's looks weak but there haven't been issues with it yet. Perhaps this doesn't matter.
- Indica uses a usb changer which is preferred as i could connect it to a usb power bank (living with my parents). Alpha use a DC barrel connector which imo is more durable. I guess i could make/buy a usb to dc cable.
- The Indica's box looks soo nice!
Tied/Wash:
- Sounds like smell isn't a major issue when not in use for either? Intuitively I would assume the indica would be less smelly when in storage.
- I have mixed feelings on the bigger bowl of the indica. As a session travel vape a big bowl seems nice and from what i've read here the taste doesn't get worse over the coarse of the bowl or when you come back to an old bowl. I assume the effects would change however. The Alpha's I'm typically a small bowl vape sorta guy because i'm cheap.
- From what I gather vapor quality is similar, customer service is similar, and price is similar.
- The black indica and this both have silicon mouthpieces/mouthpiece covers. This will be important when out in the cold. Slightly prefer the Alpha's all silicon mouthpiece as i could see the silicon sleeve getting lost, stretched, or ripped with time. But there are replacements so it isn't a deal breaker.
- Indica is rated 6-8 uses or 1.5 hrs. Alpha is rated at 2 hours and sounds like it lasts 1-2. Both have plenty of charge for me.
- Neither have replaceable batteries. I guess I just need to accept it will only last 200 charges.
That is ~400 uses...
Big differences that are standing out to me currently.
Does anyone have both? Which do you prefer and why?
Questions:
- How does vapor quality compare?
- How does efficiency compare?
- How does smell, particularly ambient smell when warming up, after vapeing, and in storage compare? It sees like the Indica would have an edge.
- It sounds like I can pack a bowl, go snowboarding and hit it with my friend, come home, and use it later that night or the next time we go out without any major change in herb flavor or effect? Would i get better flavor and more 'well rounded' effects from packing a bowl each time with the alpha?
- Are quality issues with the Indica as common as they seem?
Thanks for the input!
Ps. I posted a very similar post in the Alpha thread to get options on both sides. Hope that doesn't break any rules.
I'm currently leaning towards the Goboof Alpha or the Indica as a boarding/out and about vape.My daily driver (and only remaining vape) is a Lotus. Amazing vape but not the most discrete! I'm a fan of quality, discreteness (smell, transporting, storage), tastey vapor, simplicity, easy cleaning, and reliability in my vapes.
From what I gather:
Win Alpha:
- I prefer the look. Smaller, less conspicuous looking, and more discrete in use and probably easier to use with a downhill/motorcycle helmet that covers one's chin without the clasp lid. Both seem high quality.
- The Alpha's warm up time is ~30 seconds while the Indica is ~80 seconds. This is pretty big for me.
- The Alpha has better controls then the Indica imo. It seems like the Alpha's dial would be easier to use with gloves on. AT and AP sound cool and three temp settings seems like plenty.
- Indica has lots of gaps above the bowl for stuff to get trapped. Someone mentioned that the Alpha has a narrow gap near the bottom of the bowl but I cant see one? I saw that 3d printed filler on here. Maybe I would be disciplined enough to use it. Advantage Alpha.
- The Indica has that cheap looking plastic base when you open the lid (they should have frosted it esp on the matte black model).
- Alpha is US made and few/no reports of off gassing. I've been seeing a lot of reports of off taste initially, off gassing, and other QC issues here. Furthermore, with a vape with a non user replaceable battery quality is extra important. :/
Win Indica:
- The pin in the Alpha bowl looks annoying. I get why they added it. I can just see myself getting burnt on it and dreading emptying the bowl because i can't find a toothpick or i'm out and about. I guess i could just keep a pick in my abv container and wait until i get home and it's cool to empty it. But then i'm carrying around a potentially smelly unit. The indica on the other hand wants you to carry around a full unit and seems to take smell into account with it's design/lid. I suppose the indica has a deep bowl which is going to be a pain to empty as well.
- The indica seems like it has a nicer bowl lid (which probably contributes to that area getting dirty). I dig that it sticks to the side of the unit. The Alpha's looks weak but there haven't been issues with it yet. Perhaps this doesn't matter.
- Indica uses a usb changer which is preferred as i could connect it to a usb power bank (living with my parents). Alpha use a DC barrel connector which imo is more durable. I guess i could make/buy a usb to dc cable.
- The Indica's box looks soo nice!
Tied/Wash:
- Sounds like smell isn't a major issue when not in use for either? Intuitively I would assume the indica would be less smelly when in storage.
- I have mixed feelings on the bigger bowl of the indica. As a session travel vape a big bowl seems nice and from what i've read here the taste doesn't get worse over the coarse of the bowl or when you come back to an old bowl. I assume the effects would change however. The Alpha's I'm typically a small bowl vape sorta guy because i'm cheap.
- From what I gather vapor quality is similar, customer service is similar, and price is similar.
- The black indica and this both have silicon mouthpieces/mouthpiece covers.
This will be important when out in the cold. Slightly prefer the Alpha's all silicon mouthpiece as i could see the silicon sleeve getting lost, stretched, or ripped with time. But there are replacements so it isn't a deal breaker. - Indica is rated 6-8 uses or 1.5 hrs. Alpha is rated at 2 hours and sounds like it lasts 1-2. Both have plenty of charge for me.
- Neither have replaceable batteries. I guess I just need to accept it will only last 200 charges.
That is ~400 uses...Big differences that are standing out to me currently.
Does anyone have both? Which do you prefer and why?
Questions:
- How does vapor quality compare?
- How does efficiency compare?
- How does smell, particularly ambient smell when warming up, after vapeing, and in storage compare? It sees like the Indica would have an edge.
- It sounds like I can pack a bowl, go snowboarding and hit it with my friend, come home, and use it later that night or the next time we go out without any major change in herb flavor or effect? Would i get better flavor and more 'well rounded' effects from packing a bowl each time with the alpha?
- Are quality issues with the Indica as common as they seem?
Thanks for the input!
Ps. I posted a very similar post in the Alpha thread to get options on both sides. Hope that doesn't break any rules.
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