Discontinued Indica Vaporizer

[Gardenerjeff]

Dan, I appreciate the kind words you have posted historically regarding the Indica and It's performance when working as it should. The corrections that we just completed, have eliminated this back and forth and I have discussed measures for compensation in PMs with you as recent as yesterday. There' is no way that I want my customers stuck with carrying the cost due to any mistakes in my company. If you feel I have not addressed these points in our PMs, please openly state them here and let's determine what is needed to keep you satisfied.

For the newbie lurking....this response, plus the fantastic job the Indica2 does vapeing, is why you won't regret getting one. The service is top notch. So is the form factor and the vapor.

Teaming,

Gardenerjeff

 

[CarolKing]

I've had my Indica for about 8 months. I used the unit a lot when I first got it and still use it a couple of times a week.

I haven't had any problems with it. Really like the idea of a spacer, that is a real plus. It's a very easy portable to clean and it smells less than all my other portables. When the lid is closed there is no smell that I'm aware of.

The battery still seems to be going strong. I get a little less than an hour, the last time I checked. It holds a charge for over a week to 2 weeks.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Is the Black version any different from the chrome finish one besides the silicone cover for the mp and the color? Do you guys all grind to near dust?

My black version was vastly better than my SS Indica. The vapor path was larger, which meant I rarely had to unclog/clean the vapor path on my new noir (All the scoobie-snacks now get stuck in the mouthpiece instead of the vapor path). The *ONLY* cleaning I had to do on my Noir was dropping the mouthpiece into a cup of ISO every few weeks. Sometimes I would run a pipe cleaner through the path, but that wasn't really necessary.

Overall, I liked my Noir much more than my SS Indica.

I was very pleased with the low maintenance requirements of the Indica, I always recommend it over the Pax1 to my friends looking for a stealth vaporizer because this vape is so low maintenance (compared to any other vape I own). Heck there's not even a screen to worry about replacing, major props for that!

For what it's worth, I don't grind my herbs fine, I leave them a standard medium grind

 

[Shit Snacks]

My black version was vastly better than my SS Indica. The vapor path was larger, which meant I rarely had to unclog/clean the vapor path on my new noir (All the scoobie-snacks now get stuck in the mouthpiece instead of the vapor path). The *ONLY* cleaning I had to do on my Noir was dropping the mouthpiece into a cup of ISO every few weeks. Sometimes I would run a pipe cleaner through the path, but that wasn't really necessary.

Overall, I liked my Noir much more than my SS Indica.

I was very pleased with the low maintenance requirements of the Indica, I always recommend it over the Pax1 to my friends looking for a stealth vaporizer because this vape is so low maintenance (compared to any other vape I own). Heck there's not even a screen to worry about replacing, major props for that!

For what it's worth, I don't grind my herbs fine, I leave them a standard medium grind

My original stainless unit from the initial production run back in April 2014 was still my best. A shame it and all the others have long been gone/dead...

But least there are new updated ones coming! Still expect Indica to handle all of my conduction needs

 

[vaporlee]

I first had my SS Indica in 2014, had minor charging problem (holds 30~40 min max), but Mike sent me Black Noir replacement in sometime, without sending back my SS unit so I could avoid paying shipping cost to US. It was one of the best CS that I experienced so far.
I am very pleased with Indica's performance, visual, material, price and it's extreme solidity as brick. I haven't tried Pax 2, but Indica definitely outperforms OG Pax, and many other convection vaporizers. Even its conduction vaporizer it surprisingly produce good tasty vapor. Indica still remains strong in my arsenals next to Alfa, and Haze 2.5.

 

[snorcan]

I wish my indica worked like yours! It is by far my fave form factor, but unfortunately the close to 230 spent (CDN exchange/shipping) has left a bitter taste. My only hope at this point is that mike offers me up a stellar deal on this phantom new, even smaller unit... Otherwise pax 2 is looking mighty tempting!

 

[dantheman420]

Thank you vaporlee for giving a quick comparison of the OG PAX to the Indica. I, same as you, have had battery issues also. None of the 4 Indica Noirs I have had lasted for a full hour, maybe 50 minutes on low temps and 30 minutes on high temps. I solved this problem by getting a 10,000 mAh portable charger with a 2 amp and one amp output for $20 and charging the Indica after every two sessions. The 2 amp charges the Indica quickly, the 1 amp wouldn't charge it at all. But none of that matters if the heating chambers keep dying. I'm glad this issue has been fixed, but it has certainly been a hassle.

I agree their customer service has been outstanding, up until they failed to receive my return; causing it to get shipped back to me as "unclaimed". It is already frustrating when a product breaks once, even more frustrating when 3 different replacements break, and super frustrating when you take the time to thoroughly clean out two units bubble wrap them drive over 5 miles to the nearest post office wait in line and end up having the return center leave it unclaimed so it gets shipped back to you and then you're expected to reship it again.

I feel the exact same as you snorcan. Mike asks what he can do to make me happy at this point. Well picking up the two Noirs I shipped to the return center so I didn't have to ship them twice would have been nice, but all I ever wanted is an Indica Noir that works and doesn't die after a month or so. I love the form factor, ease of cleaning, taste of vapor; but the battery life leaves something to be desired and the faulty heating chamber issue is really unexcusable. I feel like a beta tester.

Now do I give Indica another try and hope the faulty heating chamber problem is truly resolved or do I move on and start researching a replacement vaporizer? It's a tough choice and this entire ordeal has turned me off the Indica, but damn does it produce some tasty vapor (when it's working properly).

It's pretty obvious that the members of this forum ignore me. Sorry I said something negative about your precious Indicas, but it is a well known issue. So go ahead and ignore me because you don't want to hear the truth, which is Indica released a product before it was ready for market, which caused many people a great deal of hassle including Indica themselves.

 

[pakalolo]

It's pretty obvious that the members of this forum ignore me. Sorry I said something negative about your precious Indicas, but it is a well known issue. So go ahead and ignore me because you don't want to hear the truth, which is Indica released a product before it was ready for market, which caused many people a great deal of hassle including Indica themselves.

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Yes, we hate you so much your likes:message ratio is only about 1.8:1. Sucks to be you.

 

[CarolKing]

@dantheman420 It sounds like you're really unhappy about this vaporizer. Sometimes you just need to move on. It's not worth all the worry and stress.

I understand having a problem with something you've bought and feel like you haven't gotten what you paid for. I think most of us have gone through that.

I know I have felt that way with a vaporizer I had bought some time ago. I ended up buying three because I liked it so well. I gave one to a friend. All three vaporizers weren't what I had expected after just a few short months. The company didn't stand behind their product. It looks like Indica has at least tried to hold up their side of the bargain, but it didn't turn out right it looks like.

There are some that are quite happy with their product, so not all of the vaporizers are faulty. My vaporizer is 8 months old and I've had no problems. I know that doesn't make you feel any better. There are a lot of vaporizers out there, new ones every day.

Sorry for your troubles but sometimes it is time to look for greener pastures.
Good luck.

EDIT
Talk with Mike give him a PM. Maybe he can help. Believe it or not it seems like a well made unit, the one that I have has served me well and is stilling buzzing along.

 

[vaporlee]

Thank you vaporlee for giving a quick comparison of the OG PAX to the Indica. I, same as you, have had battery issues also. None of the 4 Indica Noirs I have had lasted for a full hour, maybe 50 minutes on low temps and 30 minutes on high temps. I solved this problem by getting a 10,000 mAh portable charger with a 2 amp and one amp output for $20 and charging the Indica after every two sessions. The 2 amp charges the Indica quickly, the 1 amp wouldn't charge it at all. But none of that matters if the heating chambers keep dying. I'm glad this issue has been fixed, but it has certainly been a hassle.

I agree their customer service has been outstanding, up until they failed to receive my return; causing it to get shipped back to me as "unclaimed". It is already frustrating when a product breaks once, even more frustrating when 3 different replacements break, and super frustrating when you take the time to thoroughly clean out two units bubble wrap them drive over 5 miles to the nearest post office wait in line and end up having the return center leave it unclaimed so it gets shipped back to you and then you're expected to reship it again.

I feel the exact same as you snorcan. Mike asks what he can do to make me happy at this point. Well picking up the two Noirs I shipped to the return center so I didn't have to ship them twice would have been nice, but all I ever wanted is an Indica Noir that works and doesn't die after a month or so. I love the form factor, ease of cleaning, taste of vapor; but the battery life leaves something to be desired and the faulty heating chamber issue is really unexcusable. I feel like a beta tester.

Now do I give Indica another try and hope the faulty heating chamber problem is truly resolved or do I move on and start researching a replacement vaporizer? It's a tough choice and this entire ordeal has turned me off the Indica, but damn does it produce some tasty vapor (when it's working properly).

It's pretty obvious that the members of this forum ignore me. Sorry I said something negative about your precious Indicas, but it is a well known issue. So go ahead and ignore me because you don't want to hear the truth, which is Indica released a product before it was ready for market, which caused many people a great deal of hassle including Indica themselves.

No one is ignoring you here, not getting any likes doesn't meant that they are ignoring you.
I believe that every individual has free will to speak what they want, but I bet Mike will sort this out for you if you PM him. As you mentioned earlier even though they have failed, you already have receive 4 replacements unit so far.. That is outstanding..
I had fuming Phantom, took video and reported 3 times, and I am still getting ignored by Cloud V Enterprise.
Moreover I sent my 400 pounds Minivap back to Hermes and they took 2 months to send back to me..
Your complaint might not complaint to many others.. But I really hope you can get sorted.

 

[SpaceCoyote]

Indica released a product before it was ready for market, which caused many people a great deal of hassle including Indica themselves.

But the older versions were fine, right? My secondhand (maybe even third hand) silver one works great. I think they just got a bad batch of heating units for the last production run. Definitely sucks for those affected, tho...

mod note: Edited to fix QUOTE tags

 

[dantheman420]

You have:

Messages: 36 Likes Received: 64

Yes, we hate you so much your likes:message ratio is only about 1.8:1. Sucks to be you.

Well I was referring to a post I made a few days ago that got zero likes, yet Shit Snacks posted almost the exact same thing just 8 minutes after me and got 4 likes. Obviously Shit Snacks has been around longer and is a more respected member, but it certainly feels like you are being ignored when you say something and no one notices, yet someone else says the same thing and the 'likes' flow in like a river. I was also referring to the fact I asked how the flavor of the PAX compares to the Indica and got zero responses. Surely there are people on here that have tried both.

But the older versions were fine, right? My secondhand (maybe even third hand) silver one works great. I think they just got a bad batch of heating units for the last production run. Definitely sucks for those affected, tho...

mod note: Edited to fix QUOTE tags

I have heard of the older units having issues, although they are few and far between and usually over 8 months old. The Noir on the other hand has this problem on a major scale. Four units dead in 5 months and I'm not the only person on this thread with this issue. It is so bad that Mike has had to source a different heating chamber and is starting a new production run, just because of this issue.

So sure it happened to a small percentage of the old version Indicas, but with the current Noirs it seems to be a problem with nearly every unit. I'm 4 for 4, what are the odds that would happen if it wasn't a wide spread issue?

@CarolKing I'm not unhappy with the Indica in any way, just the heating chamber death issues. That is what is making this so hard. I love the flavor the Indica produces, but have been jaded by these issues the Noirs are having. I'm at a loss, do I get a different vape that might not produce such a nice flavor or do I keep playing the get a Noir use it for a month, have it die, get a replacement, use it for a month, have it die, get a replacement game.

@vaporlee About being ignored see my response to pakalolo above. About Mike taking care of me yes for the most part he has. After my 4th Noir died he refunded me and told me to wait for the problem to be fixed. So do I keep on waiting because I truly do love the Indica or do I move on and start researching a replacement vaporizer because this is just becoming too much of a hassle?

I, unlike many members on here, do not own 2 or 4 or 10 different portable vaporizers, nor could I afford to. So when my Indica dies it is vaporize at home or go back to combusting, which I don't want to do. I guess I just answered my own question, I'm getting a PAX 2 and if at some point in the future Indica comes out with a reliable Noir or the new smaller unit they are working on then try and save up to get that also. Apparently owning just one portable vape isn't going to work if I want to fuck combustion completely.

Thanks for everyone's responses. Now I'm off to get a PAX 2, until Indica fixes the issues with the Noir or comes out with a new, and reliable, vape. ✌

 

[nigel]

How's the PAX flavor compare to the Indica?

What anyone wants out of a vape (outside of the vapor itself ) varies from person to person. If flavor is your thing, as it is mine, I would NOT look at the (original) Pax.

I have *NOT* tried the Pax 2 yet, but as it has the original Pax DNA in it, I can't imagine it being that stellar. I'll note over in the Pax 2 thread, that there is talk of an improvement in flavor degradation over the original, but that doesn't address the fact that the flavor isn't as great... only that it doesn't get worse over the time of a load. Even the initial draw on the original wasn't as tasty as other vapes.

If flavor is a requirement I'd look at the Indica (if you feel comfortable with the new changes), an Ascent, or a Solo.




EDIT:

Your post came in after I submitted mine (or more specifically, I didn't see it until after I posted), so adding an edit here.

I, unlike many members on here, do not own 2 or 4 or 10 different portable vaporizers,

While I think 10 might be excessive I think it is common wisdom here that one should own at least two, in part for this very reason. Always have a backup.

If you do go the Pax2 route, perhaps later you can go back to the Indica and get your second device.


PS: you say no one replied to your question. I tried, but was just catching up on this thread this morning. Sorry it wasn't timely, but... all good things in time?

 

[paintthemoon]

I'd also like to thank all zero members that answered my question about how the PAX flavor compares to the Indicas.

Well let me give you a comparison of the Pax 2 and the Indica 2. (Keep in mind this is all just my personal experiences/preferences)

Size: obvious win for the Pax 2. I personally hate the form factor of the Indica, and I think its fairly bulky (or at least bulkier than it needs to be), so I greatly prefer the Pax 2.

Efficiency: It depends on how you load it. With the Indica, the includes spacers make it a lot easier to to get a tight pack. But again, I prefer the Pax 2 because it is just easier to load (plus the screen trick works well enough IMO).

Battery life: In all honesty, it's a tie. The Indica's battery life leaves somewhat to be desired, but I feel like I got as much vape time as with the Pax 2 (the Pax 2 has a slightly better battery, but it's close).

Vapor quality: While the Pax 2 improved over the OG Pax, both of these are conduction vapes so the flavor isn't amazing. Still great for a conduction vape, but far from perfect IMO.

Price: the Pax 2 will cost you about $80 more (before shipping)

Overall, they're both great vapes. It just boils down to which works better for you. If you vape in public, in a group setting, or having a cigarette-pack-sized zippo doesn't sound that great to you, I think the Pax 2 is worth the extra $80.

If you mostly vape alone and like the novelty of a cigarette-pack-sized zippo, than go indica. As stated, I persaonally hate the form factor of the indica, but some people like that novelty aspect. If it were a choice between the two, I would always go Pax. Hope this helps your decision

 

[dantheman420]

Thank you nigel and paintthemoon for your perspectives on the PAX vs Indica.

Sorry if I have upset anyone, sorry if I was impatient in waiting for a response, but based on getting two great responses after complaining about being ignored; I guess the old adage the squeeky wheel gets the grease holds true.

Thanks again. I'm going to read more about the ascent, solo, and PAX 2; and will be saving up for an Indica later, after I hear that the heating chamber issue is resolved.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Thank you nigel and paintthemoon for your perspectives on the PAX vs Indica.

Sorry if I have upset anyone, sorry if I was impatient in waiting for a response, but based on getting two great responses after complaining about being ignored; I guess the old adage the squeeky wheel gets the grease holds true.

Thanks again. I'm going to read more about the ascent, solo, and PAX 2; and will be saving up for an Indica later, after I hear that the heating chamber issue is resolved.

Yeah, also there are some Pax-Indica comparisons earlier in this thread, Vape Dr did a head to head review even.

Try not to get too hung up on the like things, it's like facebook who the hell knows how people think and work in social media. Sometimes they see em at the same time, and like the most recent one...

And to add into your search, dont forget about Arizer Air (more portable than Solo), and cheap Chinese options like the new Imag+ ceramic and xmax v2/Storm would actually be really great price-concious ways to get a back up and something to tide you over til new Indica (and I say Grasshopper...) come out. Also maybe new FlowerMate Pro

 

[dantheman420]

Yeah, also there are some Pax-Indica comparisons earlier in this thread, Vape Dr did a head to head review even.

Try not to get too hung up on the like things, it's like facebook who the hell knows how people think and work in social media. Sometimes they see em at the same time, and like the most recent one...

And to add into your search, dont forget about Arizer Air (more portable than Solo), and cheap Chinese options like the new Imag+ ceramic and xmax v2/Storm would actually be really great price-concious ways to get a back up and something to tide you over til new Indica (and I say Grasshopper...) come out. Also maybe new FlowerMate Pro

Thanks I'm not sure how I missed Vape Drs review, I will have to go back and find it. Geez so many choices. It has made me think there needs to be stores (obviously only in places MJ is legal) that carry and sell these vapes and keep tester units on hand so you can try each one and figure out which one you want. Not sure how this would play out legally though, even in states that have gone legal recreational. Other problems too, like who supplys the flowers to test, people using the store to test units but then buying it somewhere else that is cheaper (kinda like how people go to Best Buy to see which tv they want and then buy from Amazon cause it's cheaper). Sure would be amazing if this ever did happen though, a person can dream.

EDIT: To respond to this part, "Try not to get too hung up on the like things, it's like facebook who the hell knows how people think and work in social media. Sometimes they see em at the same time, and like the most recent one..."

Yeah I was a bit childish about that, probably why I'm not on Facebook. Sorry to have made such a big deal of it.

 

[c76man]

Thanks again. I'm going to read more about the ascent, solo, and PAX 2; and will be saving up for an Indica later, after I hear that the heating chamber issue is resolved.

If you can live with a bigger form factor, the Solo is a great choice for reliability, ease of use, and cleaning. The flavor starts great, but does degrade during the session. Some people do not like the restricted draw, though. The Arizer Air uses the same technology and is a bit smaller, but it has not been out long enough to guarantee it will have the reliability of the Solo. The Haze is worth considering, a bit new to the market, but I would add it to your list of consideration. Haven't tried the ascent or Pax, but I haven't seen anything that convinced me they are worth considering.

My Indica is still going strong, but I would be frustrated if I had to go through multiple units.

 

[ColdSmoke]

Been away from this forum in an attempt to fight VAS.

Bought an Indica last Spring and the heater died by June. Replacement worked great until January or February when the heater died. The black plastic also cracked and the lid "clicker" came off. I wasn't too concerned because the unit still vaped.

Just got around to contacting Indica about warranty and have been catching up on this thread. Let's hope the new production run is more stout.

 

[CyanCowboy]

My heater recently crapped out too. I contacted customer service and was pleasantly surprised when told a new one would be shipped right away using 2 day shipping. 4 days later and nothing in the mail I called back and was told that someone in shipping would call me right away. 24 hours later, after no return call, I called back and was again told someone in shipping would return my call. Again no one returned my call. Ultimately, I received an email with tracking information letting me know my replacement wouldn't arrive for almost a week. A+ on the warranty, C- on the execution. I'm hopeful the next model lasts longer because I like this vaporizer and don't think it gets the respect it deserves.

 

[dantheman420]

Decided on the PAX 2 until an improved, reliable Indica is released. I went to my local smoke shop for screens for my Silver Surfer. Turns out the had a 4/20 sale, buy 4 items and get 20% off everything. I got screens, pipe cleaners, isopropyl, and a PAX 2. With the discount my PAX 2 was $223.99 total, no sales tax here in Oregon. With the sale I walked out of the store for $227.58 for everything, funny thing is I had no idea there was a sale I just needed screens.

I'm still going to keep watching for upgraded Indicas as I have learnt that anyone that wants to fuck combustion completely will need backup vaporizers.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

I'm still going to keep watching for upgraded Indicas as I have learnt that anyone that wants to fuck combustion completely will need backup vaporizers.

This is wise advice. Sadly, a lesson most of us learn the hard way. I myself fucked combustion after one week without even really trying, 3 weeks later my 1 month old Davinci Ascent died completely. I had to buy another vape with overnight shipping to ensure I didn't go back to combusting! (bought the Lotus vape since it's a beast and will outlive me with proper care!)

I'm looking forward to the improved Indica design, can't wait to try it out, I miss my Indica!

 

[Spinuch]

Any update on the new production run? I can't wait to have an actual portable again.

 

[Gardenerjeff]

I have started to simply pack flowers into the oven without grinding. No muss, no fuss and the AVB is exactly the same as when I was grinding. Same taste and medication.

Teaming,

Jeff

Love this little Indica2

 

[Shit Snacks]

Damnit I miss having working ones so much... Any day now we'll find out about the new versions/replacements though I'm sure...