I'm a bad Vaporist, how about you?

[eyevape]

I dunno. I feel a little bad because I have relapsed a little lately.

I love my vaporizers, dab rigs, etc. And I've barely ever combusted the last several years or more. However, in the last couple of years I have been doing more outdoor, nature activities (hiking, camping, fishing, kayaking), and for some reason in the last year or so, I just feel more like smoking sometimes when I'm way out in nature. I often take a joint, blunt, or pipe for my hike up/down the mountain, wade through the river fishing, or while paddling my kayak.

I dunno, though I prefer vaporizing 95% of the time, smoking just feels right sometimes when out in nature.

It's stupid, I know. Do I need to repent?

Of course there is no such thing as a bad vaporist. Saying that I felt like one for the past 2.5 years, so I understand you well. But if you are a bad vaporist, I’ve been the fucking worst one of all times.

I started vaping but wasn’t able to quit smoking, so I did vapes, joints and cigarettes all in the mix. Nearly 2 months ago I stopped combustion at all, although I‘m still using nicotine by vaping tobacco sticks. Next big goal is to quit nicotine as no one needs this shit. One step in this direction is to further detach THC from nicotine. As of right now, after vaping weed I feel the urge to vape tobacco. 20+ years of joint smoking has left its marks.

The time I‘m done with nicotine I‘ll feel like a real good vaporist. But I‘m not feeling like a bad one anymore since I stopped combustion. Thing is that I can’t smoke one joint, it’s always binge smoking. And I can’t do it occasionally, because the occasions will spawn everywhere, making the exception the rule in no time.

The way you described your smoking sounds absolutely reasonable to me. This should not make you feel like a bad vaporist at all. Just make sure you’re not in nature every single day in order to allow yourself to smoke

 

[TigoleBitties]

Yeah. I pretty much stopped smoking all together sometime early in 2017, and have only used my vapes since then. And about once every couple years I would be passed a joint or blunt or a pipe when with friends, and I hated the taste of smoke after not inhaling it for so long. I usually threw it away as well when by myself, and remembered the experience as a reminder of why I vape.

But in the last several months to a year, I find myself enjoying smoking when I'm out away from society/people out in nature by myself. Something feeling primal about the experience that I am starting to enjoy occasionally. It's a waste, because it takes 5x the flower to get high...but for some reason it sometimes seems to scratch an itch I can't explain.

It's interesting that smoking outside still scratches some itch. Maybe it's because some of your best memories of getting high from your childhood were outside? Do you still enjoy the taste?

If you want to break the cycle maybe a portable butane vape like a sticky brick would scratch the same itch outdoors?

I'm one of those longtime joint/bong smokers that just never looked back when I started vaping. Vaping tasted so good that I couldn't go back. Couple that with using less flower and the health benefits and it was a no-brainer. Maybe I wasn't a heavy enough smoker at the time, but I never found the vaping high lacking. Even with my OG Solo, I was satisfied enough - also I knew the tech would just get better.

These days I'll take a puff on a joint occasionally if I don't have a vape with me but it's rare and I usually end up regretting it. What's worse though is that I've more often been a cigarette "social smoker". I know, it's terrible but if I'm at a party or a bar and someone lights up beside me, I'll just want that one or two puffs to give me that oxygen starvation head-rush high.

I've never bought my own cigs or even wanted to, but I'm just a whore for that instant head-rush that comes from a drag of a cig when you're a non-smoker. I feel so dirty.

 

[Polarbearboy]

I think I'm nine or ten years since I took up vaping. For the first several years, I would never smoke a j, not once. Now occasionally to be social I'll have a couple of hits off a j. I have a close friend up near my cabin in remote northern Canada who I'll take a couple of tokes with each summer, even as usually I take a pass, even with him. And a week ago I was riding a bike trail near my home and stopped to ask two guys I'd seen on the trail earlier something, and they were just about to smoke a j and so I asked if I could join them. Purely a social thing. For the vast majority of my life I almost always got stoned, smoking and now vaping, before and often also during afternoon outdoor exercise, especially biking or hiking. This is the first year in 50 plus years of imbibing that I've stopped, mostly because even gentle vaping has begun to irritate my lungs, so I've cut back to evenings only. So it was great fun to smoke the j with the two guys, yuck it up, and then continue my now even more enjoyable workout ride on the stunningly beautiful fall day in the White Mountains.

 

[simba]

Maybe I wasn't a heavy enough smoker at the time, but I never found the vaping high lacking.

As a heavy smoker in the past and heavy vaper now I can safely say that no joint has ever hit as hard as my best vapes. It took the right combo of vapes in order to fully convert but once I did there is no way I can waste my weed through combustion anymore.

 

[hillbill]

As a heavy smoker in the past and heavy vaper now I can safely say that no joint has ever hit as hard as my best vapes. It took the right combo of vapes in order to fully convert but once I did there is no way I can waste my weed through combustion anymore.

So what vaporizers finally made your “combo”?

 

[simba]

There have been a fair few over the years, but I think a big thing was discovering manual vapes. Being able to RTL more with a Dynavap helped cut combustion.

These days my main vapes are my Enano XL, Lotus, Tasty Tube, Dreamwood Glow, Vapman, Supreme V3, sometimes a TA and occasionally a VG.

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

I’ve been combusting since 2012, then vaping since 2021.

I was quite lucky to hit the right device first time with the dynavap 2021M - the ritual, the flame, the tastes and effects of the conduction vapour, and the joint like form factor made it a pretty seamless transition. As long as I have at least one heavy conduction vape I have no issue staying with vaping. It gives me everything combustion did and more, whilst having less of the bad aspects.

I’ve since tried convection devices of a few forms and I think if I’d have started with those I’d have probably been more “half in half out” as they’re just a little too different in flavour and effects compared to combustion. A complement rather than a replacement is how I see them. I do see combusters quit with like a tinymight though so there’s obviously some subjectivity at play

That being said I do occasionally combust. Mainly when I’m in situations where I don’t have my vape for whatever reason. It hits me like a nuclear warhead (I’m sure my vape and combusting tolerance are separate) but I think what really strikes me is just how awful it tastes, and the smoke itself has this sort of gritty particulate feel I can’t really describe.