Of course you are right Spiderman, but vapping allows us to extract the active chemicals more efficiently and you don't have the combustion toxins to cloud the 'high'.
Lucky bastard...Of course, i'm referring to a gram of oil
Who said that? I couldn't find it?but the vaporizer doesnt create any more active chemical, and doesnt make the active chemical thats their effect you any stronger....thats just silly.
max said:Smoke provides compounds like carbon monoxide, hydrogen cyanide, benzene, toluene (glue sniffing anyone?), and naphthalene (primary ingredient of mothballs). They're all poisons and the effects you get from them in low doses (sleepiness, dizziness) are usually associated with the 'cannabis high'. The much cleaner high from vapor gives you a more pure THC effect. You retain more energy and ability to function and communicate. The people who feel they're missing something with vapor are really missing the toxins from combustion. The low doses you get may not be cumulative over time like mercury poisoning, etc., but those are some nasty chemicals and I prefer to avoid them entirely.
A gram of bho every day? Damn! You must have a lot of spare trim laying around.Spiderman said:...Of course, i'm referring to a gram of oil...
I guess that makes sense-- less plant matter with the hash and no combustion with the edibles.Spiderman said:I find that similar to smoking hash, eating edibles, etc
Oh mama. I'm pretty darn POed. Not at anything said; I just typed up a very long, engaged response to this post, but as I was editing (compulsive editor--no matter what medium we're talking about :/), my freaking computer screen went black. I looked around and realized I'd somehow pulled the power cable out of my laptop at some point, and for some reason the battery died without warning me. I think I'm abusing this thing far too much... Arrrrgh...at the other forum I post on we have this awesome smiley that's a little smiley-dude beating on an obviously dead horse with a baseball bat. This moment totally calls for a .Acolyte of Zinglon said:actually vaporizing does create a little more thc, the heat decoboxylizes thca (the form that is most abundant in a plant, but has very little effect) into d9-thc... the degree to which this happens is somewhat controversial, some dont think it happens, and it may not happen as much in vaping as it does in baking
you can do the same thing by baking your herb at 350f for a half hour, then let it cool and put it back in your container
or not, you folks can experiment if you like, just putting this out there
That pretty much sums up my argument, I guess. I would not recommend that anyone heat their herbs in the oven at 350 F for half an hour; unless, of course, they're smothered in some brownie mix . I may be wrong, but I would not personally risk it. It's about your perspective on the plant: if you're only talking ?9-THC, then sure, that would probably be safe if heated to 350 F. Maybe, maybe not--an oven isn't guaranteed to be 100% accurate, and there's always environmental circumstances--but the boiling point of THC is listed at 392 F, so it would probably be pretty safe. However...there are so many different actives to be found in Cannabis. We're not only talking about THC anymore; I speculate that we still don't fully understand the subtleties of this plants activity. I went into more detail substantiating why I make this claim, but I am too vaped and tired to write out that argument all over again. I'd gladly come back and talk some more about decarboxylation and the other wonderful properties and abilities of Cannabis in general, if that's a discussion any one wants to be having. Oxidization is a factor with cannabinoids, so there must be some sort of balance between degradation and chemical "maturation" (in this case, decarboxylation...but many bizarre things happen to "stable" chemical constituents given time and varying circumstances)...possibly some connection to why many old Heads (people from my own experience, at least) say that the old, forgotten stash is not necessarily trash...some times it can be the best, most kind stuff. Decarboxylation may be involved here. Who knows? Too bad this is still underfunded, largely ignored (or totally non-existent) research in each of our countries (Canada for me and I think the US of A for you?)When marijuana is harvested, the THC molecule is bound to a carboxyl group, COOH, that is one atom each of carbon and hydrogen and two atoms of oxygen. With a carboxyl group attached, THC is not active.
Heating dried marijuana makes the carboxyl group convert into water (H2O) and carbon dioxide (CO2). When marijuana is smoked, the burning eliminates the carboxyl group. There are several ways to decarboxylate marijuana for use in extracts. A layer of marijuana buds or leaf can be placed in an oven at 150 degrees for 15 minutes. This is far below the boiling point of THC yet warm enough to evaporate the carboxyl group. Another method of releasing the COOH is by placing a bowl of buds in the microwave for 2 minutes. The waves will boil away the water. The boiling point of marijuana's active cannabinoids ranges from 260-392 degrees F.
You freaking know it. I love that horse! I also love the weed poke. What a silly thing...God Bless the Silly!!vtac said:Is this your horse? http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8552/deadhorseaq1.gif
Oh but so was I. I've learned much more from life than school, which seems to aim its focus towards molding and stupefying the young into an ill-fit model of a "person". That vision is not really mine for what makes for quality in the human organism. In the oh-so-subtle words of Frank Zappa:vtac said:It's funny, during most of high school science I was out on the field smoking joints with friends.