Hot Water Hits - Try this and report back your findings.......
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StickyShisha2
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back when i was a smoker, i would use a multi-chamber water pipe with hot tea in the first chamber and ice in the last. This would give thick, moist, cool smoke without the stale yellow smoke you get when hot dry smoke hits ice.lwien said:
My theory about the higher potency of hot water hits is, that the hot water releases more H2O molecules to the air which can trap the active compounds flying by, consequently they are being absorbed in alveoli more effectively .... basically with hot water, we are not wasting herb-clouds by exhaling them, because bigger part is absorbed by lungs. However, I dunno if this assumption is correct.
moonlit knight
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I always like to have long hot shower before toking and get the bathrrom nice and steamy and just chill there with my bong and some music and I've found the hot water in my bong works really well and gives this awesome relaxed feeling of being in a sauna. I still use I ce occasionally as well though cos I ifnd hot water and ice can be equally effective.
abhs
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i got my bong a few days ago. first hit i took through it was hot water. i didn't know beforehand that hot water decreases the amount of visible vapor so i had a wtf moment for a bit.
i read through this thread. doesn't seem like anyone came up with an explanation, although we all agree the hot water helps.
i can think of a couple reasons. not sure which is/are the primary cause. some guesses that i checked up on -
1. response to cold air. to limit heat loss, our bodies may have evolved to limit cold air intake. multiple smaller breaths are easier to warm than fewer big breaths.
2. intermolecular forces in water. the colder a substance is, the stronger the bonds between molecules. it's more difficult for vapor to diffuse through cold water then hot water.
3. moisture. more moisture produced from hot water yields higher total vapor pressure. increased pressure expands lungs, improves their efficiency.
links
http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/81/4/1739
http://archinte.highwire.org/cgi/content/summary/75/4/233
i can't access pubmed right now so maybe i'll look more later. i'm leaning towards it being optimal for our bodies to process air at the same ambient temperature and with some moisture.
i read through this thread. doesn't seem like anyone came up with an explanation, although we all agree the hot water helps.
i can think of a couple reasons. not sure which is/are the primary cause. some guesses that i checked up on -
1. response to cold air. to limit heat loss, our bodies may have evolved to limit cold air intake. multiple smaller breaths are easier to warm than fewer big breaths.
2. intermolecular forces in water. the colder a substance is, the stronger the bonds between molecules. it's more difficult for vapor to diffuse through cold water then hot water.
3. moisture. more moisture produced from hot water yields higher total vapor pressure. increased pressure expands lungs, improves their efficiency.
links
http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/81/4/1739
http://archinte.highwire.org/cgi/content/summary/75/4/233
i can't access pubmed right now so maybe i'll look more later. i'm leaning towards it being optimal for our bodies to process air at the same ambient temperature and with some moisture.
lepstadder
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Why would anyone try this in the summer...
bluntfaced
I'm El Diablo Baby!!!
I tried this a while ago, took a bong rip with pretty hot water, I liked the moistrosity but it was too hot. I'm thinking one chamber hot water, one chamber ice water but that is not friendly on the glass.
lwien
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Guys, you shouldn't be using boiling water. I don't know how hot the water is that is coming out of your faucet, but I've been using it as hot as it can get out of the tap, and I am not experiencing anything like hot vapor. The water is hot, but by the time the vapor enters my mouth, it is lukewarm and moist, but no where near hot or no where even near uncomfortably warm, for that matter.
lepstadder
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hot water leaches toxic metals from plumbing
rabican
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Ultrabreath is a decent device, im not sure how much its helping but i do feel calmer after i used it (since im focusing on my breathing)...sort like meditation.
After doing hot water hits a few times, i dont notice any difference in the high. I do enjoy doing it once and awhile but i think i like ice better. Its def fun to switch it up and try it every once and awhile.
After doing hot water hits a few times, i dont notice any difference in the high. I do enjoy doing it once and awhile but i think i like ice better. Its def fun to switch it up and try it every once and awhile.
lepstadder
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I dont just spout at the mouth for fun
From the EPA'a website
http://www.epa.gov/ogwdw000/lead/lead1.html
So meh lead is awesome!
lepstadder
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word
abhs
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i was going to leave this alone since i'm too busy to get into an internet spat but i don't want anyone reading this thread to get worried.
first, the link to the EPA website is an article from 1993. lead contamination was a more serious problem then due to older piping. lead actually hasn't been used in US piping for most of this century, but the solder would leach adulterates till relatively recently.
secondly, that link suggests lead contamination being a problem mostly to pregnant women and infants. if you are a pregnant woman or an infant i suggest you delay vaping until a later time.
thirdly, lead - if it even is a problem in your house water - is a problem in drinking water. drinking water != gas. please understand that lead in your bong water will not evaporate to enter your lungs.
i do not suggest going through an additional step of heating cold water to put it in your bong. this really won't make any difference other than causing you extra time. but i'm just some guy on the internet so do what you want.
first, the link to the EPA website is an article from 1993. lead contamination was a more serious problem then due to older piping. lead actually hasn't been used in US piping for most of this century, but the solder would leach adulterates till relatively recently.
secondly, that link suggests lead contamination being a problem mostly to pregnant women and infants. if you are a pregnant woman or an infant i suggest you delay vaping until a later time.
thirdly, lead - if it even is a problem in your house water - is a problem in drinking water. drinking water != gas. please understand that lead in your bong water will not evaporate to enter your lungs.
i do not suggest going through an additional step of heating cold water to put it in your bong. this really won't make any difference other than causing you extra time. but i'm just some guy on the internet so do what you want.
hemp;)goofy8cheerio
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abhs i worry about the fluoridealert.org in the h2o so try distilled i guess & b h2o cautious 
bluntfaced
I'm El Diablo Baby!!!
This could be dangerous for glass but I was thinking you could have hot water in the ashcatcher and cold water in the bong and that might be priime
Egzoset
Banned
Nice reading. Is it heat or humidity which helps the lungs to do their work most?
What if someone were to use mist as what's generated in ultrasonic humidifiers?
(In this case that's only the ultrasonic element as seen in gardening applications)
Mist is no vapor, in short Google says it's a cold water droplets suspension floating in air. Should mist prove to cause effects similar to hot water then that would most probably mean humidity is the key.
What if someone were to use mist as what's generated in ultrasonic humidifiers?
(In this case that's only the ultrasonic element as seen in gardening applications)
Mist is no vapor, in short Google says it's a cold water droplets suspension floating in air. Should mist prove to cause effects similar to hot water then that would most probably mean humidity is the key.