Honey Bucket Carb Caps

BoogerMan

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Awesome. Thanks so much for all the pics. However the videos didn't load...

Might pick up a cap just on spec... Although I might just get the Low Temp Top and let it tide me over till my Joda bucket. If I end up doing anything exciting I'll of course report back.
No problem! Yeah an OFZ style cap that will probably fit most buckets for only $15 is a steal IMO.

But the Low Temp Top is the best dabber I have and I highly recommend it. I honestly think it works better with the bucket than the OFZ knock off caps since the low temp top makes a perfect seal on the Quartz swing (as long as the diagonal cut on the swing is even haha).

Oops forgot to post the vid link in my previous post.

Here is the new version CFAB one:
http://instagram.com/p/yIxsSkmYy5/
 

Monsoon

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Here Is the vid of the new CFAB one:
http://instagram.com/p/yIxsSkmYy5/


Yeah the cap seems fairly universal. I am hoping it fits with my Joda bucket too but if not I'm not too worried about it because I got a cap coming from Joda too :)

The inner diameter of my cap is about 25.5mm and outer diameter is about 32mm (I got one of those cheap digital measuring calipers from Amazon lol).

My bake bros dome opening inner diameter is about 21.75mm and the outter diameter including the "lip" around the top of the dome is about 30mm.

My CFAB dome opening inner diameter is about 21.75mm and the outer diameter including the lip is about 29mm.

So the two really aren't much different. Idk why but the cap definitely works better on the bake bros bucket (maybe the lip on the top of the bake bros dome is more flat and even compared to the CFAB dome so the cap is able to sit more steadily on it bake bros bucket).

Also both ones I have are 14mm male. So I did a weight comparison with the swings removed. The CFAB is 17.7g and the bake bros is 28.25g. Pretty damn big difference for being a similar size dome :/

Here are some pics of the two.

Bake bros on left. CFAB on right:
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You can see the thickness difference in the weld and the tube that holds the swing
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Also check out the swing placement. Bake bros is 90 degrees and well the CFAB one isn't lol
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Oh I also wanted to note that I cannot swap the Quartz swings. The CFAB one is too long and overshoots the Bake Bros dome. So I am not sure which swing is more universal.

I know bake bros sells stuff made in China at a mark up price but if I were to order another one from only these two sellers I would go with the bake bros one anyday (but I would order a Joda one over both of these). Just sucks bake bros doesn't offer a cap.

Well mine was at a 90 degree angle, not sure if that's the "proper" orientation but if it is they at least got that much right. Good comparison between the two, the BakeBros definitely looks nicer and thicker in the photos. The CFAB bowl feels too large especially given how thin the glass is. If you have ever ordered a piece from DHGate that came with an oversized ultra thin oil dome, the CFAB one is the same thing with a slot for the swing. If you have a VapeXNail, it's about the same thickness and just as fragile. Based on the video, version 2 seems to be the same dome so unless you're impatient and have $60 you don't care about, I would stay away from it.

For the ofz style carb caps, you can try contacting him or keep an eye on his Instagram for when he has extras to sell. At $15 it could be worth the gamble and if it doesn't fit one now maybe it will down the road.
 

tennstrong

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Prefer this over a regular banger? I feel like the OFZ isn't an efficient carb would you disagree?
Haven't used a honey bucket v banger, but have used regular quartz enail domeless drip tip v enail banger. I really prefer the banger style, there is a little bit more excess small waste (so not as efficient) compared to the regular quartz domeless (this due to when you cap your banger, there is more surface area and less contact with the heater, so it should be obvious that there is a little bit wasted, also from the bend in the banger it may collect a little claim), but I find I get better flavor from the larger size of the bowl and it's obviously much easier for the crumble compared to regular styles-

my favorite thing is how easy it is to just drop on a bunch of crumble or something that would be more difficult to fully dab on a regular nail, and just toss the carb cap/marble cap dabber I have (it's made for banger enail capping, has a slight area where you can put your dab on the end if you want to use it as a dabber too, and rests on the nail on it's own) and go at my own pace on the piece, as the restriction is so much lower than even a fully cleaned regular enail style it really frees up the function on your piece. So yea, I'm definitely a fan of the banger style vs regular domelesses (I've used plenty of quartz ones, still much prefer quartz to other materials). If I cap long enough though I still extract the dab fully, although it may take a couple small pulls to finish it off. I'd say the most efficient is the classic enail style just due to there being so much contact with the coil, with a runner up being the banger- and at that I find myself using only my bangers since I got them, my poor old quartz drip tip hasn't seen much light :p That being said, I could see myself maybe going back to the regular style once in a while, whether it be based on need or if I get some really high end stuff- and I'm talking stuff like herb resin**. So if you need a nail for budder/crumble/DI (direct inject, as in I can hold my fully heated nail by the joint and it's pretty cool to the touch) then definitely bangers are a good choice imo, even if you don't have enail access, and caps for them are so easy- I've even seen people dabbing off a MS using a silicone jar or the bottom of a small glass dab jar like in this vid, and shit that MS fab-torus he uses his pad with is probably worth more than I'll spend on glass in my life. See :58 & 1:30

**Herb resin- bud is flash frozen as soon as it is picked/cut and then run to make extract, this stuff just landed in B.C. (not sure if cali/oregon had it on lock first, but it's a crazy price as a result, ranging from around 90-120/g), but the smell alone is almost worth paying for, the stuff is so dank its unreal. only one grower for all the dispensaries I've seen is even making the stuff (Heavenly Daze- but they markup their own stuff so much even selling to a dispensary it's hard to get on a budget, although it's always top shelf)
 

Deadshort480

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Haven't used a honey bucket v banger, but have used regular quartz enail domeless drip tip v enail banger. I really prefer the banger style, there is a little bit more excess small waste (so not as efficient) compared to the regular quartz domeless (this due to when you cap your banger, there is more surface area and less contact with the heater, so it should be obvious that there is a little bit wasted, also from the bend in the banger it may collect a little claim), but I find I get better flavor from the larger size of the bowl and it's obviously much easier for the crumble compared to regular styles-

my favorite thing is how easy it is to just drop on a bunch of crumble or something that would be more difficult to fully dab on a regular nail, and just toss the carb cap/marble cap dabber I have (it's made for banger enail capping, has a slight area where you can put your dab on the end if you want to use it as a dabber too, and rests on the nail on it's own) and go at my own pace on the piece, as the restriction is so much lower than even a fully cleaned regular enail style it really frees up the function on your piece. So yea, I'm definitely a fan of the banger style vs regular domelesses (I've used plenty of quartz ones, still much prefer quartz to other materials). If I cap long enough though I still extract the dab fully, although it may take a couple small pulls to finish it off. I'd say the most efficient is the classic enail style just due to there being so much contact with the coil, with a runner up being the banger- and at that I find myself using only my bangers since I got them, my poor old quartz drip tip hasn't seen much light :p That being said, I could see myself maybe going back to the regular style once in a while, whether it be based on need or if I get some really high end stuff- and I'm talking stuff like herb resin**. So if you need a nail for budder/crumble/DI (direct inject, as in I can hold my fully heated nail by the joint and it's pretty cool to the touch) then definitely bangers are a good choice imo, even if you don't have enail access, and caps for them are so easy- I've even seen people dabbing off a MS using a silicone jar or the bottom of a small glass dab jar like in this vid, and shit that MS fab-torus he uses his pad with is probably worth more than I'll spend on glass in my life. See :58 & 1:30

**Herb resin- bud is flash frozen as soon as it is picked/cut and then run to make extract, this stuff just landed in B.C. (not sure if cali/oregon had it on lock first, but it's a crazy price as a result, ranging from around 90-120/g), but the smell alone is almost worth paying for, the stuff is so dank its unreal. only one grower for all the dispensaries I've seen is even making the stuff (Heavenly Daze- but they markup their own stuff so much even selling to a dispensary it's hard to get on a budget, although it's always top shelf)
Live Resin, Fresh Frozen, Herb Resin, etc.. It's nice, but not worth the price as far as I'm concerned. The taste is more of fresh vegetation than anything else.
 

tennstrong

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Live Resin, Fresh Frozen, Herb Resin, etc.. It's nice, but not worth the price as far as I'm concerned. The taste is more of fresh vegetation than anything else.
Exactly, not worth the cost/hassle when non-live resin top strains are still getting near same %s, but something to note for someone who has limited oil access possibly. It does have a distinct difference imo flavor wise though, obviously. (unless you are aiming for a different flavor than the dank the bud you got)
 
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BoogerMan

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CFAB has their "new and improved" honey buckets with caps available... I'm tempted, just to tide me over till my JoDa one gets here. Anyone else considering being test monkeys for the new batch with me? I've written to them and asked what improvements they've made, as I don't want to end up with one like the one @Monsoon got. I'll report back if/when they get back to me...
Hey @Erwin did you ever hear back from CFAB about what new improvements were made? Just curious what they said.
 
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tennstrong

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Hey @Erwin did you ever hear back from CFAB about what new improvements were made? Just curious what they said.
Telling you right now that if those are from china (and they look like the exact buckets I was looking at for our group buy) he is buying them for about 9$ + shipping and pricing them for 60$. That is fuckin disgusting if you ask me, I would at max price my buckets at like 30$ on an online store for non-FCers, thats still a 200% margin and due to me having to take individual time (maybe say an hour or less to label, mail, and communicate also) to mail each.
Edit: honestly if I keep seeing these buckets for 60-150 from china in a month im going to open a shop, people are really taking advantage of others here- and dont doubt there will be a FC code if so haha
 

Erwin

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@BoogerMan Yup, I'd mentioned it as an edit to a post on the last page. Probably should have created a new post for clarity, in retrospect... What they told me is that: "it has been redesigned a little bit stronger repackaged for safer shipping caps made stronger and better seal on cap."

That said, I've decided to just be patient and wait for Joda. If I do end up getting a new carb cap I'll spend a bit more on the Low Temp Top (thanks for the suggestion), but they're working on a version 3 and I'm gonna wait for that. If anyone else decides to give CFAB a try though, I'd be very interested to know about quality and such...

I expect @tennstrong nailed it though, and that we're getting reamed by the markup. Nonetheless I know of nowhere else to get a cheap ofz style carb cap, for a fair price or any other price. Still searching for that alternative...
 

Oglop

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I requested a sample trough alibaba and they replied via email. They were not willing to sell two pieces at first but i managed to convince them somehow.

The quality is just what i expected, nothing spectacular. The glass is a little thin, but i guess they are better than most of the domes that comes with DGgate pieces. The carb caps fit much better then i thought they would. It does not create a perfect seal, but i guess its good enough. The stem the air flows through sits at about the same height as the slit in the quartz swing when the carb cap is on. I guess it would have been better if it were 2-3mm longer.

I have not tried them yet though. I made a small batch of BHO to test them out, but i forgot all about it and dabbed it on my older nails. :(
 

Erwin

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Well that sounds like the best bang for our buck by far, as of yet at least. Any more information on what you did to coax a "sample" order out of them?

@tennstrong Was there ever any progress made on that Hyman group order???
 

Oglop

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I just checked the conversation i had with them. They actually said no at first because they sold samples of 10 pieces at the time, and before i even replied i got another mail saying he talked to his boss who agreed to sell me two pieces for whatever reason. Paid through paypal and got the honey buckets 5 days later delivered at my door in a wooden box i later drilled some holes in to make a slide stand that fits 12 bowls.
 

tennstrong

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I just checked the conversation i had with them. They actually said no at first because they sold samples of 10 pieces at the time, and before i even replied i got another mail saying he talked to his boss who agreed to sell me two pieces for whatever reason. Paid through paypal and got the honey buckets 5 days later delivered at my door in a wooden box i later drilled some holes in to make a slide stand that fits 12 bowls.
Yea not sure but ive coaxed them into a sample buy and they are willing to send me any small orders of units (although there is a 20$ shipping charge which is holding me back from buys atm, damn those new pillars looking so tempting!), and to @Erwin , the buy turned very time constrictive, and as a result I had to kind of pull out at the time. Like I said earlier, if people are still ripping people off with overpriced buckets I'll set up an online shop and have a pre-order special price (pretty much exactly what it would cost me to buy and ship it to you) for FCers who were eager to do the group buy, I don't want those to be excluded. and yea it was 9/pc for the bucket with cap- also the CAD v USD sucks right now so I don't want to do a big buy
 
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Erwin

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Sorry for the back-to-back posts, but there's not too much activity on this thread...

So I've managed to coax a sample order from Hyman, which includes a honey bucket and a banger nail, however they're asking $50 for shipping! I asked if there was a cheaper option and they said no... I'm of course not gonna pay that. @tennstrong They quoted you $20 for shipping? That seems much more reasonable. How long ago was that? Also, do you mind if I tell them that I know you got that rate? They told me $50 before they even asked what country I was in.... seems a bit sketchy to me.
 
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tennstrong

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Sorry for the back-to-back posts, but there's not too much activity on this thread...

So I've managed to coax a sample order from Hyman, which includes a honey bucket and a banger nail, however they're asking $50 for shipping! I asked if there was a cheaper option and they said no... I'm of course not gonna pay that. @tennstrong They quoted you $20 for shipping? That seems much more reasonable. How long ago was that? Also, do you mind if I tell them that I know you got that rate? They told me $50 before they even asked what country I was in.... seems a bit sketchy to me.
Um I'd prefer you didn't quote my rate, but if you are ordering less than 50$ of products, expect their shipping to be huge- I'd advise emailing them back with a larger order size (get some friends together) and they will most likely drop the price. At around 60-80 your shipping should drop a lot. Also hey everyone check the new stevenlmz piece coming out for those searching for the ms mini clones-
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/advance-booking-2015-new-high-quality-glass/218128237.html
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Oglop

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I paid $45 in shipping for my two honey buckets from Hyman, so I would be more than happy to pay $20 in shipping!
I'm also waiting for a MS mini knockoff "sample" from them, i couldn't resist when this thing was $28 even if the shipping is kinda expensive. Damn GAS!!

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Erwin

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If I could just get a couple of more things to make it worth my while, I'd for sure pay the $50 bucks. For a bucket and a banger it seems a bit too much though... @Oglop Do you have a link to those minis? I can't seem to find them on their site.
 
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Oglop

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I'm not really sure if they have them on their site. I just got an email saying they were going to produce a large batch of these minis and asked if i wanted to order 5 pieces, and after a few mails back and forth i talked them into selling me one piece.
 

Deadhead710

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I want one of those minis where can I order just one

How much did they sell you one for?
 
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Erwin

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@Deadhead710 You've made it very, very clear that you want one of the minis. We get it. Regarding where they're from, if you'd take the time to read the thread you're posting back-to-back in you'd see we're actually actively discussing the manufacturer, and have mentioned it several times on this page alone. Regarding the price, again, if you'd read the discussion directly above you you'd find that they're currently not available from their website or for individual sale. I'm in the process of trying to figure out how best to obtain individual units, and will post here with any relevant information when I get it. In the mean time I'd recommend reading back through a few of these threads you're posting in and seeing what information you can collect on your own. You might be surprised. And remember, patience is a virtue.

@Oglop They're not on the site, you're correct, but I found them through a product catalog they sent me at my request. Still trying to figure out if I can make $50 worth of shipping worth my time, and exploring the idea of a group buy with some friends as you recommended... How do you feel about the overall quality and perc on those minis?
 
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