Amoreena
Grown up Flower Child
Where do you put 1/8 oz.?
Discontinued herbalAire
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
no crucible, huh...I missed that point. Thanks! I sure ain't cramming an eighth in there any time soon.
One thing the manufacturer told me is that this vape works well with shitty herbs, which is a new thought! They said the way it pumps the air into the tightly packed herb makes it able to penetrate deeply where others can't. Can anyone confirm? I'm on the lookout for some shitty herb now (ain't that funny!) to play with in it.
@ajadbe - this unit can hold an eighth packed tightly into its chamber. You put some in and pack it down, then repeat as necessary until it is full.
One thing the manufacturer told me is that this vape works well with shitty herbs, which is a new thought! They said the way it pumps the air into the tightly packed herb makes it able to penetrate deeply where others can't. Can anyone confirm? I'm on the lookout for some shitty herb now (ain't that funny!) to play with in it.
@ajadbe - this unit can hold an eighth packed tightly into its chamber. You put some in and pack it down, then repeat as necessary until it is full.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
Where do you put 1/8 oz.?
You Pack it into the chamber. I've seen claims it holds up to a 1/4oz, but can't see that much fitting unless you have some really really dense buds.
Amoreena
Grown up Flower Child
If you guys say so. You do mean the chamber where the crucible goes, right?
If so, I don't think I could do that, even if I ground the stuff.You don't smoke those 1/8ths in one sitting, do you? Am trying to figure out the advantage to loading that much.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
The chamber is huge so if you pull all the big stems out of your buds It'll hold an 1/8 with room to spare, in my experience anyhow.
It's more of a party mode, If you watch the videos of espresso mode on the HA site or youtube you'll see the results are the thickest clouds of vapor I know I've ever seen at least.
I only did it twice when I had mine with around 3.0 grams each time but with 6-8 people doing bags and hitting the whip It did us all up for a few hours.
It's more of a party mode, If you watch the videos of espresso mode on the HA site or youtube you'll see the results are the thickest clouds of vapor I know I've ever seen at least.
I only did it twice when I had mine with around 3.0 grams each time but with 6-8 people doing bags and hitting the whip It did us all up for a few hours.
I only use mine in direct draw mode (no whip) so that would get messy here.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
No not loading in the mouthpiece but In the chamber where the crucible goes.
You don't ever really need to use the crucible in tha HA if you don't want to, they just help keep things cleaner and loading/unloading easier.
Pack that chamber once with the HA off and you'll be amazed how much you can fit into it and remember if your using the pump(which you've got to use to it make espresso mode) you can't ever pack it too tight, it likes it packed solid.
You don't ever really need to use the crucible in tha HA if you don't want to, they just help keep things cleaner and loading/unloading easier.
Pack that chamber once with the HA off and you'll be amazed how much you can fit into it and remember if your using the pump(which you've got to use to it make espresso mode) you can't ever pack it too tight, it likes it packed solid.
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StormyPinkness
Rhymenocerous ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
My way is probably a little gross to some people. I hang my hose up when I'm done and if there is a lot of resin it clogs the very bottom of the hose (it very rarely drips out). I have a little tupperware container with wax paper in it. I check before I use it and if it's clogged I just touch the clogged end to the wax paper and blow on the other end and lift up. It sticks to the wax paper and later I scrape up a little to use on my wax pens with coils. It's pretty runny though so you have to be careful with how much you put in depending on the wax pen. I use the hose and connectors that came with the ha though so that probably wouldn't work with bigger silicone hoses or some of the other stuff people use.
421
Well-Known Member
herbalAire is like a juicer. Sure, it doesn't have the highest throughput of just dumping out raw juice, rather it has a steady medium-low juicing rate. But it does have two features other juicers don't:
-Don't have to chop up your fruits and vegetables before putting em in, the HA has sharp like Blendtec blades, "Will it vape?" Yes it will vape. So that's already much easier and time-saving. Also don't have to worry about losing anything in the chopping process, like all the nice juices that can flow out (yes I know, only chop on a board that can catch the juices to save for later).
-Don't have to stir part way through the juicing process. The HA just keeps juicing, no need for the extra step of stirring up a half-juiced bowl. And the crazy thing is, without stirring, the load is more evenly juiced than other juicers! Other juicers can over juice some parts more than others, and add a bitter, popcorn flavor to your fruits and veggies. To mitigate this, the other juicers need stirring, but it only helps so much. The HA says goodbye to inaccurate and arduous stirring with its penetrating diffused multi-jet design, you'll be amazed when your pulps come out perfectly brown with no specks of green. "And hey, no popcorn flavor!"
So yes, those other juicers can ploop out a bunch of juice in no time, but who wants that gooey, inconsistent, over-juiced popcorny juice? (Red X, audience boo)
Oh and did we forget? It's literally unbreakable! Go ahead Billy, throw it down this flight of stairs. Try doing that with your other juicers!
-Don't have to chop up your fruits and vegetables before putting em in, the HA has sharp like Blendtec blades, "Will it vape?" Yes it will vape. So that's already much easier and time-saving. Also don't have to worry about losing anything in the chopping process, like all the nice juices that can flow out (yes I know, only chop on a board that can catch the juices to save for later).
-Don't have to stir part way through the juicing process. The HA just keeps juicing, no need for the extra step of stirring up a half-juiced bowl. And the crazy thing is, without stirring, the load is more evenly juiced than other juicers! Other juicers can over juice some parts more than others, and add a bitter, popcorn flavor to your fruits and veggies. To mitigate this, the other juicers need stirring, but it only helps so much. The HA says goodbye to inaccurate and arduous stirring with its penetrating diffused multi-jet design, you'll be amazed when your pulps come out perfectly brown with no specks of green. "And hey, no popcorn flavor!"
So yes, those other juicers can ploop out a bunch of juice in no time, but who wants that gooey, inconsistent, over-juiced popcorny juice? (Red X, audience boo)
Oh and did we forget? It's literally unbreakable! Go ahead Billy, throw it down this flight of stairs. Try doing that with your other juicers!
nicelytoasted
Vaked Chemist
I can recall trying to plug the HA, just to see if it was possible, and it wasn't!
I've crammed ~ 5.0g of fairly dense herb into the chamber and proceeded to get 8 willing volunteers (myself included) smashed, at a party a few years back...
@stickstones: I do believe it does work extremely well with lesser quality herb, especially when you pack it down thoroughly, for the exact same reasons that HA themselves gave you, from testings that I have done in the past.
I've crammed ~ 5.0g of fairly dense herb into the chamber and proceeded to get 8 willing volunteers (myself included) smashed, at a party a few years back...
@stickstones: I do believe it does work extremely well with lesser quality herb, especially when you pack it down thoroughly, for the exact same reasons that HA themselves gave you, from testings that I have done in the past.
mrfloopa
Vappy
Can you stick the cotton ball directly in the unit? I'm having trouble seeing why that wouldn't work.
The only downside I've found with this baby is that it is incredibly easy to use a lot, mostly since the unit can hold so much. Self control will come after the novelty phase wears off, right?
Never jammed a whole eighth in there, though.I find that 325-340 is my ideal range for a really heady high. I never blow out clouds, but I'm also never left wondering if it's working after 15 minutes. I think the extraction must be pretty thorough and fairly well controlled, because if I come back later and start with higher temps (e.g. 375), the effect is completely different. Something that makes sense, given the different vaporization points of different compounds, but strange to notice so acutely. Is this what I had been missing out on with a log vape that was (mostly) 1 temp?
@nicelytoasted: In Texas, we end up with a lot of brick--stuff you can't even change the shape of and you need a metal grinder for. I'd love to see the HA tackle that. I have no doubt it could, of course, but it would be nice to see how far a $30/oz goes in this thing.
421
Well-Known Member
Conversely I've found that the HA works very well for more freshly cured weed, the kind of fresher, sticky, smelly weed that can be hard to grind up, or that some folks might recommend to let sit out and dry out so it is more usable for vaping. Thing is with the HA, it's usable as is! All the fresh terps ready for vaping.
Effects wise, I would describe the whole bud high as just a bit more sparkly than a ground high. Don't know how else to describe it, the difference to me feels sparkly. (If comparing drier material the difference is less pronounced.)
Effects wise, I would describe the whole bud high as just a bit more sparkly than a ground high. Don't know how else to describe it, the difference to me feels sparkly. (If comparing drier material the difference is less pronounced.)
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
yup. I just pull out the filter and drop it in the bowl and vape on. huge clouds.
there is definitely something to this pulsating pump air into compressed herb thing. the HA seems to produce vapor better with the pump on than with direct draw. and that pump is fucking strong! I turned it on with a bubbler and vapor started instantly coming out, with water flying everywhere in the can. my lips almost got numb the glass was vibrating so much!
One thing I would like is a longer cord from the pump to the unit. It's only about five inches long and is too short to easily use with a bubbler.
421
Well-Known Member
Here is my current favorite method of "convection" vaping in the HA. I've no idea how much more this is making it convection but it seems to work for me, and I can worry less about cooking the herbs while it sits.
Crucible, with metal screen removed from bottom, instead I use a ceramic disc as a nice flat bottom.
Then add E-Nano basket screen as a spacer, hopefully increasing convection. (A little bit of steel wool could work well as a spacer too.)
Then a curved metal screen to sit on top of the basket. This is where the load will sit. I used to have it sit on a ceramic disc but that seemed to make the loads vape just a wee bit unevenly.
Then finally add load and top with ceramic disc. It works well with whole buds and ground material, and a little or a lot works. It's nice this way too because it's like a half cruc and loading smaller amounts seems better. Also to try and maximize convection and less cooking, I only drop the crucible in after the HA has come to temp. I vape with the stock MP through one foot of silicone tubing (3/8" ID), frequently attaching to a micro recycler with the whip fitting nicely on recycler's 14mm male end.
Crucible, with metal screen removed from bottom, instead I use a ceramic disc as a nice flat bottom.
Then add E-Nano basket screen as a spacer, hopefully increasing convection. (A little bit of steel wool could work well as a spacer too.)
Then a curved metal screen to sit on top of the basket. This is where the load will sit. I used to have it sit on a ceramic disc but that seemed to make the loads vape just a wee bit unevenly.
Then finally add load and top with ceramic disc. It works well with whole buds and ground material, and a little or a lot works. It's nice this way too because it's like a half cruc and loading smaller amounts seems better. Also to try and maximize convection and less cooking, I only drop the crucible in after the HA has come to temp. I vape with the stock MP through one foot of silicone tubing (3/8" ID), frequently attaching to a micro recycler with the whip fitting nicely on recycler's 14mm male end.
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
who is using this thing with a bubbler or some kind of glass or whip with the pump on?
421
Well-Known Member
I used to use it through the FC-187 with pump for a while. It hit HARD! I do find it loud though... I call it Skrillex mode. Gonna order an off switch for the quieter Fusion pump I got and try some more "fan-assist" HA bubbing.
I also replaced the air pump tubing with silicone, IMO it gives a small flavor improvement.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
what do you do for a longer power cord to the pump?
421
Well-Known Member
Hm, is there a power cord from HA elite to the pump? On my pump the power just goes to the wall.
edit: Ah yeah looks like there is. I could see how that could be restricting with HA upside down on a piece. Might be some kind of extension for the plug type on ebay.
edit: Ah yeah looks like there is. I could see how that could be restricting with HA upside down on a piece. Might be some kind of extension for the plug type on ebay.
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nicelytoasted
Vaked Chemist
I've also used it, direct to my glass, with both the low and medium flow pumps, in what I called auto-bubbler mode, with and without water. I definitely agree with 421, it hits very hard, especially with the higher flow pump. In fact, it was too much for me, but I generally prefer to sip my vapour anyways.
I also agree with @stickstones, there is definitely something to this pulsating pump air into compressed herb thing, whether using the pump, or by simulating the pump by pulsing your finger over the air inlet when using it in direct draw mode.
Either way, it's nice to have a vapourizer that is so versatile, which does so many modes so very well, at such a bargain price, imo.
I also agree with @stickstones, there is definitely something to this pulsating pump air into compressed herb thing, whether using the pump, or by simulating the pump by pulsing your finger over the air inlet when using it in direct draw mode.
Either way, it's nice to have a vapourizer that is so versatile, which does so many modes so very well, at such a bargain price, imo.
Amoreena
Grown up Flower Child
I enjoyed results of pulsing my finger over the air intake hole last night and again, this morning.
(don't want to mess with a pump 
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
I've hooked the elite up to a full size ht and it worked fine.
VJJJV
No clue what I did yesterday
the planetvape gong attachment has been breaking pretty easily for me. So after the 2end one broke I just gave up on the gong stuff since they're $40 a piece. Silicone tube to whip attachment has worked much better for me. I also fill balloons and then attach those to the whip attachment.
This guy does some great glass work and whip attachments. Freaking love the quality, if only he made a gong for the herbalaire.
http://oregonglassblower.com/VAPORIZER-ADAPTERS_c5.htm
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
@bobo305 The standard mouthpiece should work with most glass, you just have to hold either the F-bomb kinda tube on the mouthpiece while you hit or the HA if it's inverted on a bong or bubbler the whole time. The mouthpiece is rounded() so it makes a seal, I used a pinnacle style tube that's like the f-bomb and it worked well.
) so it makes a seal, I used a pinnacle style tube that's like the f-bomb and it worked well.