Discontinued herbalAire

[The Shrike]

Vapefiend.co.uk has them. Oops, just checked the site and it's down. I was told they were going to be upgrading the site, so they must be doing that now. Try it in a few days, but they are very good for Herbalaire spares.

 

[*plainlazy*]

ive found that site via my searches for a tong and they didnt have any in stock.
I asked for email when next im notifications but nothing yet.

I might have a look again or ring them see if they can order me one.

does any one know if the elite mouthpiece works with the h2.2 and a glass piece?
I got the d020 from dh gate its the 18mm fitment

thanks

 

[Amoreena]

... does any one know if the elite mouthpiece works with the h2.2 ...

I read at HA's site that it does not but, as mentioned in my post (#1869) on the previous page, an Elite MP is one of three MPs that HA's customer service rep offered to send in hopes one or more will stay in my H2.2 because the original standard MP pops out when heated. So I don't "know" now but will find out after the package arrives. Guess it's possible or they wouldn't be sending one.

 

[*plainlazy*]

thanks for the reply. I think ive read the elite mp does fit if you use the ha as expresso style ( no crucible ) but unsure if it was on this thread or from a google search.

would like to hear your findings after you receive your replacement mp's please and good luck I hope one stays in your ha, its a cracking vape.
cant wait to mate it to my glass piece

 

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Just wanted to know if anyone is selling HA accessories or, better yet, does anyone have the EQ setup for sale? I don't have extras so I don't want to risk breaking shit, and no tools

Thanks

 

[TheDundertaker]

Hey, anyone find a way to use their herbalaire with concentrates? Im considering buying the elite and that's a bit of a deal breaker for me since the cano can do it and the herbalizer as well. I do however enjoy whip and water tool rips so this does seem like the vape for me. Thank you.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations TheDundertaker,

...with concentrates?

In absence of proper visual clues we can only speculate how the Elite is built but if it's still using a heat-exchanger as in v2.1 then that's a sealed assembly not meant for user maintenance at all. Solid concentrates would be OKay, simply make sure no leaking oils ever penetrate deep into this module or you might feel sorry!

 

[TheDundertaker]

Thanks Egzoset! Would you recommend your herbalaire (2.1-.2) right off the bat? Is it economical in terms of conservation of herbs? How is whip mode vs bag mode? Thanks

+ i heard you dont even grind up your nugs in the herbalaire , could i grind out of preference?

 

[Egzoset]

Hi again TheDundertaker,

Thanks Egzoset!

Don't mention it, it's a pleasure.

Would you recommend your herbalaire (2.1-.2) right off the bat?

Not the v2.1 as there was a noticeable, euh... Well, i didn't like how the thermocouple was held in place, but this has been corrected with v2.2 nonetheless.

Is it economical...

It works better with ~ .3 g when aroma/taste is Paramount, though there are more intense ways to experience some good cannabic appreciation: the fire of power, which is something else, e.g. because of the time-compressed session an HA can hardly provide at all (remember, i used to cause my HA v2.1 timer to flash!)...

...in terms of conservation...

Conservation can sound confusing because nothing left unnattend for a while in my HA v2.1 oven was spared the effect of being bombarded by conductive/radiative heat between inhalations (convective)... My spent material wasn't worth reclaiming anyway, unless a guy likes tar and cauldron reminescence!

So you see it's like a locomotive in terms of extraction and hence bag mode is where it shines best i believe; once started it won't stop easily but this is a non-issue with balloons!

There's little cause for concerns if you like to vape relaxed, long & slow. Bag or even some selected whip...

...i heard you dont even grind up your nugs in the herbalaire , could i grind out of preference?

It's all true, everything goes out anyway but you may prefer sooner than later. I often prefered to grind myself...

Using my modded glass wand i could even choose between sucking the shreaded material directly into my glass bowl or just fill the aluminium crucible before i slip i on. When it's not in the bowl from the start it climbs into the bowl during inhalations and gradually collects there, which means there are nuances added into the basic ritual, eventually. One more good reason to add accessories to a versatile platform IMO.

Good day, have fun!

 

[StormyPinkness]

Hey, anyone find a way to use their herbalaire with concentrates? Im considering buying the elite and that's a bit of a deal breaker for me since the cano can do it and the herbalizer as well. I do however enjoy whip and water tool rips so this does seem like the vape for me. Thank you.

Before I started getting wax I used to get concentrates as my free gift when I'd get a 1/4th. I'd just take off tiny pieces and wedge it in the little bud you put in. It would definitely make a difference, I could feel and taste it. So it worked, but I could tell it was not getting fully used and sometimes it would end up on the walls of the crucible and you need to scrape it off. So inefficient and not ideal but it totally worked and I did it for months with no negative affects on my HA that I could see. If it hadn't been a free gift I don't know if I'd ever have bought it, I did enjoy it though.

 

[cybrguy]

I don't do concentrates, mostly because I never see them. But I wanted to say (again) that in terms of efficiency and waste I find that adding a screen to the top of my crucibles allows me to tap them out when I am done with a session and prevent the conduction of a hot oven from continuing to vaporize goods that remain in the crucible. A crucible outside the oven cools quickly. And I find that I nearly always vape nugs in in the HA rather than grinding.

That being said, while I find the HA VERY efficient, nothing (I have tried) beats the Lotus for efficiency.

Edit: sp

 

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So I've been using my h2.2 for a week now, and this thing is crazy efficient. The device looks smaller than I thought, but it didn't have any negative effects on performance. It's built like a tank. I've dropped it already, albeit not that far, and nothing can phase it. I replaced the vinyl tubing with silicone, and ordered crucibles, and a pack of elite slip rings. The oem clamps are a drag, and I think having the elite slip rings will make the bag system less stressful, and more fun to use. I don't have any bad things to say about this unit since I am satisfied on all levels. It's time for a WA to kick it up a notch.

Just wondering, is the current stock pump as weak as others say? This is my first bag system so I'm not sure. I read that @onigiri1692 used a tetra pump with turkey bags, and it looks sweet not having to repeatedly fill bags. Also! Is the jw 500-700 the same? Because I like how you can adjust the power if the fan.

Thanks

 

[Amoreena]

... Now, it's just a matter of waiting for them to arrive...should be here within a few days.

It took 9 days. The stuff came late yesterday. I tried the replacement original MP and could see it lifting slightly during use, though not popping out...yet. During early uses of the first original MP, I wasn't watching for anything. It took about a week to realize something was wrong.

This morning I tried the TONG mouthpiece. Had high hopes because of its shape and snug fit going in cold (didn't use a crucible). Stayed tight-feeling when heated but could see it lifting slightly during use. Left it in place until everything cooled down. Now the TONG MP slides in and out easily as if buttered. WTF?! The replacement MP used once last night does pretty much the same thing and the original MP that needs to be held in with both hands is tighter than either new one. So the problem must be in the vaporizer's ring.

I left a message this morning for someone from HA to call me and will send an email, too. I plan to ask for a replacement unit by overnight mail and for them to allow me to return this one in the outer brown box it comes in with a label they provide. I realize the overnight service is expensive but don't think the request to expedite as much as possible is unreasonable under the circumstances. None of this is my fault and it's my only useful vaporizer, such as it is. Am a licensed MMJ patient.

Someone asked back on Page 74 or 75 if the Elite MP would fit on the H2.2. It won't -- only the tip can be inserted.

Edit: I convinced them to send a replacement using Express mail which probably won't come until at least Wednesday with this being a Friday. Overnight mail would've cost them $65. They'll trust me to return the defective unit when I get the new one, though it's not their usual policy.

 

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It took 9 days. The stuff came late yesterday. I tried the replacement original MP and could see it lifting slightly during use, though not popping out...yet. During early uses of the first original MP, I wasn't watching for anything. It took about a week to realize something was wrong.

This morning I tried the TONG mouthpiece. Had high hopes because of its shape and snug fit going in cold (didn't use a crucible). Stayed tight-feeling when heated but could see it lifting slightly during use. Left it in place until everything cooled down. Now the TONG MP slides in and out easily as if buttered. WTF?! The replacement MP used once last night does pretty much the same thing and the original MP that needs to be held in with both hands is tighter than either new one. So the problem must be in the vaporizer's ring.

I left a message this morning for someone from HA to call me and will send an email, too. I plan to ask for a replacement unit by overnight mail and for them to allow me to return this one in the outer brown box it comes in with a label they provide. I realize the overnight service is expensive but don't think the request to expedite as much as possible is unreasonable under the circumstances. None of this is my fault and it's my only useful vaporizer, such as it is. Am a licensed MMJ patient.

Someone asked back on Page 74 or 75 if the Elite MP would fit on the H2.2. It won't -- only the tip can be inserted.

Edit: I convinced them to send a replacement using Express mail which probably won't come until at least Wednesday with this being a Friday. Overnight mail would've cost them $65. They'll trust me to return the defective unit when I get the new one, though it's not their usual policy.

Is the HA website the only place where you can buy accessories? I know planetvape has a couple but not a lot.

 

[Amoreena]

Is the HA website the only place where you can buy accessories? I know planetvape has a couple but not a lot.

No. But it's the only website that will send me a replacement for my apparently defective H2.2.

 

[cybrguy]

Well, I was hoping it would be the MP, but I guess not. Only upside is all the extra stuff you will now have when they send out the new one. Hope it arrives soonest. At least they let you keep the old one until you have the new one.

BTW, My TonG is very loose when cold but tightens up well when hot.

I know somebody (@MG23 or @RUDE BOY or sombody) said they were using the Elite TonG, but I don't know if they had to modify it.

 

[Amoreena]

Well, I was hoping it would be the MP ...

Me, too! Desperately.

... Only upside is all the extra stuff you will now have when they send out the new one. ...

Yeah, but I don't use whips or bags if they send those.

... At least they let you keep the old one until you have the new one. ...

That took a little bit of talking. I explained it was my only usable vaporizer, such as it is.

... My TonG is very loose when cold but tightens up well when hot. ...

Does it offer any resistance at all when inserting? Mine did, before being used once. This is bizarre.

... said they were using the Elite TonG, but I don't know if they had to modify it.

The one here won't insert more than a tiny bit so am thinking they must've modified.

 

[cybrguy]

Does it offer any resistance at all when inserting? Mine did, before being used once. This is bizarre.

Yeah, it was kinda tight at first but quickly (maybe 2 uses) loosened up when cold (zero resistance now). I can spin it freely cold but it is nice and tight hot.

 

[Amoreena]

... I can spin it freely cold but it is nice and tight hot.

Maybe will experiment when my current buzz wears off a little. Aren't the MPs supposed to fit tight whether cold or hot?

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Ajadbe,

Aren't the MPs supposed to fit tight whether cold or hot?

In v2.1 it used to work but i avoided doing that most of the time.

 

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I haven't had the issue. The MPs just sort of pops on hot or cold

 

[Amoreena]

... it used to work but i avoided doing that most of the time. ...

Avoided doing what, exactly?

... pops on hot or cold

Do you mean pops in (like with some resistance) or something else?

 

[cybrguy]

I don't think it really matters how tight the mp is when cold because you can't use it when cold anyway. If it were loose while hot that might interfere with it's function, of course, and would be a problem.

I don't heat my HA while loaded either, letting it get hot first so as not to lose any goods to conduction. So, I heat it with the MP on, pull the mp and drop in a loaded crucible, replace the mp and invert it in to glass or connect the whip.

I can count the number of bags I've blown on my fingers.

 

[Amoreena]

@cybrguy - I do heat mine with the crucible holding a nugget inside and MP on.

Just did a dry-run: turned the HA up to 375 F with TonG MP inserted and it became tight, as you say. Tried same with the new standard mouthpiece and it got slightly tighter but not much. Depending on how the replacement unit works, may end up cutting down a crucible to use with the TonG yet.

 

[TNT_error]

@ajadbe it literally pops in,as you feel a sensation of popping in. Fortunately, I haven't had my MP pop out. I either put it on in the beginning or the end. Nothing changes, as everything is still effluent