Herb Grinders

[LesPlenty]

I got a short, to the point reply from Ozbongs in regards to the SLX V2.5;

All of our items are real we do not sell knock offs. This is the latest SLX version.

That was it, they have been around for quite a while now so I would like to say they are legit, but not being available elsewhere is a bit.

 

[Summer]

^ You can always message SLX directly through their IG profile page to confirm legitimacy.

https://instagram.com/slxgrinders?igshid=zp6402b47rz3

 

[LesPlenty]

If I was the sort of person that frequented social media I would, but I don't, so I won't.
Maybe I could send them a Fax

 

[MoltenTiger]

I got a short, to the point reply from Ozbongs in regards to the SLX V2.5;

All of our items are real we do not sell knock offs. This is the latest SLX version.

That was it, they have been around for quite a while now so I would like to say they are legit, but not being available elsewhere is a bit.

I expected as much, they are a good store, I never had any doubt that it's real.

Further reading showed that SLX have changed their application method - I posted a screencap showing someone asking about the coating from 3 weeks ago, to which it was said the basic material is the same but the way they apply it has changed. This probably results in the smoother finish, which would be a welcome change.

Notably the ceramic material is really ideal for handling kief, so the new trays that will launch soon will also be a great item. My SLX feels rough, but it still works well after all these years.

 

[Copacetic]

The comments here re' the SLX 2.0 feeling "rough" make me think they must be different to my 1st gen SLX 303 as it doesn't feel rough at all when clean (super smooth in this state).
I'm aware that the Cerakote finish is only applied to the grinding chamber of my 303, as opposed to the entire exterior surface of the 2.0 model.

I often thought of replacing my 303 with the newer 2.0 model, as the non stick coating in the grinding chamber really works well, as I've never had to clean the grinding chamber or teeth in the entire time I've owned the grinder (4+ years I think)!
Not even a brush out, and the coated parts of the grinder look exactly as they did when new.

My 303 does however collect a plaque-like deposit round the uncoated inside surface of the grinding lid, and the outside of the other, lower half of the grinding chamber.
This eventually makes the lid very tough to turn if left completely unattended for long periods.

Is this what's happening to your 2.0's?, or are you finding them "rough" even when clean?

I really like the design of the 2.0, and have often considered getting one, but some of the descriptions in this thread recently are putting me off.
Can the 2.0 really be that much rougher than the older model I have?

FYI, I should say that I only get the 'plaque' buildup when I grind upside down, to get a slightly finer grind than the medium grind that the 303 gives when rightside-up.

I'm stone-cold broke ATM, so my GRAS is just window shopping/future planning anyway, but I am interested to know, as if I eventually find myself with any money to get a new grinder I'll be looking at the SLX 2.5, or the Herb Ripper.
If BCG produce the rumored stainless grinder then that would also be very high on my list (depending on cost).

Sorry, that's a very long way to ask about this roughness folk are experiencing in their grinders !

 

[MoltenTiger]

The comments here re' the SLX 2.0 feeling "rough" make me think they must be different to my 1st gen SLX 303 as it doesn't feel rough at all when clean (super smooth in this state).
I'm aware that the Cerakote finish is only applied to the grinding chamber of my 303, as opposed to the entire exterior surface of the 2.0 model.

I often thought of replacing my 303 with the newer 2.0 model, as the non stick coating in the grinding chamber really works well, as I've never had to clean the grinding chamber or teeth in the entire time I've owned the grinder (4+ years I think)!
Not even a brush out, and the coated parts of the grinder look exactly as they did when new.

My 303 does however collect a plaque-like deposit round the uncoated inside surface of the grinding lid, and the outside of the other, lower half of the grinding chamber.
This eventually makes the lid very tough to turn if left completely unattended for long periods.

Is this what's happening to your 2.0's?, or are you finding them "rough" even when clean?

I really like the design of the 2.0, and have often considered getting one, but some of the descriptions in this thread recently are putting me off.
Can the 2.0 really be that much rougher than the older model I have?

FYI, I should say that I only get the 'plaque' buildup when I grind upside down, to get a slightly finer grind than the medium grind that the 303 gives when rightside-up.

I'm stone-cold broke ATM, so my GRAS is just window shopping/future planning anyway, but I am interested to know, as if I eventually find myself with any money to get a new grinder I'll be looking at the SLX 2.5, or the Herb Ripper.
If BCG produce the rumored stainless grinder then that would also be very high on my list (depending on cost).

Sorry, that's a very long way to ask about this roughness folk are experiencing in their grinders !

Admittedly I was very happy with my SLX 2.0 until my BCG came along..
It's like going from a low refresh-rate monitor to a high one (which I haven't done, but it's like that), it's not really missed but the experience is plenty smoother.

If I pick up the SLX, hold the base and swipe the lid with my thumb nothing happens. Doing this with the BCG, the lid spins easily.
When I crank the SLX you can hear the friction and it does sound and feel like using high-grit sand-paper.
When I crank the BCG it hardly offers any resistance.

Once the SLX has some build up it is much worse. If I use my dealers, it's very noticeable how much extra use his has received.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/herb-grinders.15/page-355#post-1189371

That post might be of interest. I mention that the grinder looked as it did in the pic since about 6 months of use, and 2 years from that post, it still looks very similar.

 

[MAbud]

@Ramahs which grind plate do you most use on the BCG?

 

[started@52]

@Ramahs which grind plate do you most use on the BCG?

Currently, the fine for my Flowerpot and coarse for my FF2+. Do not have a use for the medium plate at the moment, if I did I think the bcg plate looks like a more medium grind, the hr looks to be medium fine and also what I have read.

 

[MAbud]

Currently, the fine for my Flowerpot and coarse for my FF2+. Do not have a use for the medium plate at the moment, if I did I think the bcg plate looks like a more medium grind, the hr looks to be medium fine and also what I have read.

any thoughts on HR vs. BCG?

 

[started@52]

any thoughts on HR vs. BCG?

No, I have learned to live with a new vape or major accessory to wait till the newness to wear off before I post something that may direct someone’s hard earned coin one way or the other. I haven’t even used it yet. I can tell you that it is lighter then I expected it to be. For some reason I assumed it would be heavier then my NV grinders but it feels lighter then them. I think the HR XL is advertised as weighing just under a pound but maybe that includes the weight of all three plates. I’ll have to weight it later myself.

 

[Copacetic]

Admittedly I was very happy with my SLX 2.0 until my BCG came along..
It's like going from a low refresh-rate monitor to a high one (which I haven't done, but it's like that), it's not really missed but the experience is plenty smoother.

If I pick up the SLX, hold the base and swipe the lid with my thumb nothing happens. Doing this with the BCG, the lid spins easily.
When I crank the SLX you can hear the friction and it does sound and feel like using high-grit sand-paper.
When I crank the BCG it hardly offers any resistance.

Once the SLX has some build up it is much worse. If I use my dealers, it's very noticeable how much extra use his has received.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/herb-grinders.15/page-355#post-1189371

That post might be of interest. I mention that the grinder looked as it did in the pic since about 6 months of use, and 2 years from that post, it still looks very similar.

Some food for thought there for sure, thanks man.
I'm certain I saw a grinder design where the inner part of the surfaces which concern us here was made a couple of mm thicker to allow a wide groove to be machined into the surface to make most of the gap between the upper and lower grinder lips a bit greater to avoid the narrow trap where kief builds up causing the type of wear you pictured.
I wish I could remember who the manuf' was, I never saw any reviews.

Skunkport bought one of the Verdampftnochmal Steely Dan stainless grinders a while back and posted his assessment here:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/black-leaf-steely-dan-ss-grinder.33002/

Sounds OK apart from the 2.5 rotations to unscrew.
I wonder how the two-piece is?

 

[Ramahs]

@Ramahs which grind plate do you most use on the BCG?

I use the medium grind plate 98% of the time these days.

 

[babaganush]

Why cant someone create a larger, metallic version of the Magic Flight finishing grinder already? And one that doesnt have so much extra surface area under the sifting disc for kief/plant matter to stick to. Does anyone else have this problem?

I feel like im losing some potency whenever I grind on this thing, and I have to take a fine brush to try and clean under there often. At the same time the grind itself does a great job at grinding to a consistent, almost powdery grind. I know this was made specifically for the MFLB, but I cant seem to find another more user-friendly finishing grinder that can provide the same kind of fine grind. I feel like theres a demand that needs to be filled here (hint-hint, grinder manufacturers!)

 

[LesPlenty]

Why cant someone create a larger, metallic version of the Magic Flight finishing grinder

About the closest thing available would be a Lift with its shaving type action...but I am just guessing as I own neither. (I would love a S/S Lift, who wouldn't, even an aluminium job would be nice?))

 

[babaganush]

About the closest thing available would be a Lift with its shaving type action...but I am just guessing as I own neither. (I would love a S/S Lift, who wouldn't, even an aluminium job would be nice?))

Nope, I own the Lift, and I use it as my daily grinder, but its definitely not a finishing grinder. Im talking powder-like consistency.

 

[LesPlenty]

Im talking powder-like consistency.

OK, that is a fine grind, do you have the 'fine' plate in the Lift and is it not being fine enough the only drawback? (I am still trying to decide on a Lift or SLX V2.5)

Edit, What about the NewVape fine grinder?

 

[babaganush]

OK, that is a fine grind, do you have the 'fine' plate in the Lift and is it not being fine enough the only drawback? (I am still trying to decide on a Lift or SLX V2.5)

Edit, What about the NewVape fine grinder?

I do have the "fine sifting disc" but I wouldnt call the Lift not grinding fine enough as a drawback, considering its not a finishing/fine grinder in the first place. I would still recommend the Lift for those looking for a regular grinder, I truly feel I never need another regular style grinder again.

When it comes to fine grinding, the NewVape one looks good but from what Ive seen it doesnt grind as fine as the Magic Flight finishing grinder, which is what I use after grinding with the Lift.

 

[Hogni]

Use the NV Fine grinder upside down and you get it as fine as you want.

 

[Verax]

The Kannistor Gr8r fine plate is the finest grind I have found in the ones I own, but still not as fine as the MFLB.

 

[TommyDee]

Made 2 discoveries today regarding my grind. 1st please mind that I am a newbie to herb vapes but not the herb itself and its myriad tentacles into other disciplines. Having dove in the deep end with the Magic-Flight Launch Box, I find the little finish grinder they make a cool little accessory. It is part of the 'fidget of things' with the ritual. About 2/3 full below the nub is a trench, basically. But we don't always have time for the ritual. Therefore a little finished grind ready for consumption is a good thing.

I got into a habit a while back of 'finish grinding' (now that I understand the term) my herb by literally grinding it through a small mesh strainer after the first grind through a general grinder. Eventually everything goes through the standard mesh of the strainer except the little round logs of stem. Seems every manufacturer has a different mesh spec but one will fit your desired coarseness. I think I got mine at the Dollar Store. Obviously this is a painstaking process with all the sticky resins. With the Launch Box I learned to let the first grind dry overnight... maybe 24 hours. Now I can 'grind' the pre-ground herb through the small strainer screen into a trusted container using my fingers without the 'clumping'. The grind that makes it through the mesh should be ready not only for the herb vape of choice but the ABV refuse matter is already cleared of the worst of the worst solid matter for kitchen use.

And I learned another thing today with what I was tossing before... those tiny little logs that remained in the finishing screen? They vape up really nice in a Launch Box. Nothing there to clump together, nothing harsh, and easily shaken for evenly 'baking' the herb.
...Remember before you post "D'uh!" ... Vape-Newbie here! I get it.
Love my Launch Box

 

[LesPlenty]

That seems like a lot of work @TommyDee, I an glad all the vapes I own don't care too much for that fine of a grind, the MFLB is an outdated dinosaur that is way too finicky for my liking but if it floats your boat who am I to criticize? For some, the ritual is almost as important as the ingestion.
If the MFLB is your only vape and you are happy...well done, more money for extra strains to try.
My cheap as chips Dynavap M can be fed chunks of bud and still work...very well (if you ever want to try a different vape with a lot of punch for your dollar, the M is great value)

 

[TommyDee]

Labor of love Seriously, I took to the LB in a heartbeat. Restrictions certainly curb my available options. I give it points for simplicity. I also have an affinity to uphold the classics. But as to grinding... I was doing this with combustion not long ago too. I just never gave it time to dry a bit before the finish grind.

 

[LesPlenty]

Restrictions certainly curb my available options

How so? I buy online and stuff always comes plain wrapped (Australia is still in the Dark Ages too).

 

[TommyDee]

...domestic. ...complicated.

 

[started@52]

Herb Ripper fine plate vs BCG fine plate. Durban Poison purchased a couple hours before grinding. One gram in each, held as horizontally as I could, no vertical or upside down grinding. I think you can fit about as much in each to grind, but the HR has a larger catch bowl so you can grind more before emptying. BCG felt slightly smoother and better in hand. HR is SS and can be put in a dishwasher.