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Recently, in another thread, provoked heated discussion by espousing an "antinatalist" viewpoint. Not an expert (most of the points made were from a 1974 episode of "All in the Family"), but antinatalism appears to be the idea that maybe it's okay to sit out reproduction, because overpopulation exacerbates every existential crisis we face as a species.
Interesting for a number of reasons, perhaps the most important of which being that people with opposing viewpoints were (eventually) able to talk to each other civilly. Clearly a prerequisite if we're ever to solve any of those existential crises.
Another worthwhile outcome was understanding that existential crises are nothing new. In 1974, overpopulation and ozone depletion were among those Norman Lear and his writers addressed. Despite our population doubling, forty-five years later, our species is still here. Life is worse for some, but better for many. For whatever reasons, some of us seem to like to see our existence as threatened, and that's been true for some time - maybe forever.
Mods - please feel free to set ground rules or just toss it on the ABV pile, as desired. And everyone, please keep in mind that humor is a plus - it relieves some of the tension that such discussions are bound to create.
To get the ball rolling, from the morning newspaper - resistant bugs. Who among us would take their side? There may be little hope of eradicating them, but there are still positive steps we could and should take. Personally, Dad picked up the particular bug discussed below on his last hospital visit. He required 56 days of IV antifungals, and he will be on oral antifungals for the rest of his likely-to-be-short life.
Have at it - post your favorite existential crisis!
Deadly germs, Lost cures
A Mysterious Infection, Spanning the Globe in a Climate of Secrecy
The rise of Candida auris embodies a serious and growing public health threat: drug-resistant germs.
By Matt Richtel and Andrew Jacobs
Edit: To celebrate, and in hommage to @TiSteamo's choice of Henry David Thoreau, whose bemusedly judgemental expression gives appropriate pause - a new avatar. Who dis?
Interesting for a number of reasons, perhaps the most important of which being that people with opposing viewpoints were (eventually) able to talk to each other civilly. Clearly a prerequisite if we're ever to solve any of those existential crises.
Another worthwhile outcome was understanding that existential crises are nothing new. In 1974, overpopulation and ozone depletion were among those Norman Lear and his writers addressed. Despite our population doubling, forty-five years later, our species is still here. Life is worse for some, but better for many. For whatever reasons, some of us seem to like to see our existence as threatened, and that's been true for some time - maybe forever.
Mods - please feel free to set ground rules or just toss it on the ABV pile, as desired. And everyone, please keep in mind that humor is a plus - it relieves some of the tension that such discussions are bound to create.
To get the ball rolling, from the morning newspaper - resistant bugs. Who among us would take their side? There may be little hope of eradicating them, but there are still positive steps we could and should take. Personally, Dad picked up the particular bug discussed below on his last hospital visit. He required 56 days of IV antifungals, and he will be on oral antifungals for the rest of his likely-to-be-short life.
Have at it - post your favorite existential crisis!
Deadly germs, Lost cures
A Mysterious Infection, Spanning the Globe in a Climate of Secrecy
The rise of Candida auris embodies a serious and growing public health threat: drug-resistant germs.
By Matt Richtel and Andrew Jacobs
Scientists say that unless more effective new medicines are developed and unnecessary use of antimicrobial drugs is sharply curbed, risk will spread to healthier populations. A study the British government funded projects that if policies are not put in place to slow the rise of drug resistance, 10 million people could die worldwide of all such infections in 2050, eclipsing the eight million expected to die that year from cancer...
“Why the heck are we reading about an outbreak almost a year and a half later — and not have it front-page news the day after it happens?” said Dr. Kevin Kavanagh, a physician in Kentucky and board chairman of Health Watch USA, a nonprofit patient advocacy group. “You wouldn’t tolerate this at a restaurant with a food poisoning outbreak.”...
Last spring, Jasmine Cutler, 29, went to visit her 72-year-old father at a hospital in New York City, where he had been admitted because of complications from a surgery the previous month.
When she arrived at his room, she discovered that he had been sitting for at least an hour in a recliner, in his own feces, because no one had come when he had called for help to use the bathroom. Ms. Cutler said it became clear to her that the staff was afraid to touch him because a test had shown that he was carrying C. auris.
“I saw doctors and nurses looking in the window of his room,” she said. “My father’s not a guinea pig. You’re not going to treat him like a freak at a show.”
Edit: To celebrate, and in hommage to @TiSteamo's choice of Henry David Thoreau, whose bemusedly judgemental expression gives appropriate pause - a new avatar. Who dis?
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