Have an Elev8tr now needing a more powerful portable. FW7 or P80 which would be better for me?

Medivapequeen

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Yes, the Mighty is a hybrid vape (a mixture of both convection & conduction). The IQ2 is the more feature-rich vape (over the IQC). I really like the airflow adjustment too. But if you don't care much about the missing features in the IQC, it's very good and has many fans (it still vapes well). USB-C is nice but imo its absence not the end of the world... most of the time it won't be used and the batteries are best charged using a dedicated 18650 wall charger. Works great that way and one can keep, charge and rotate a number of batteries with no cords needed.

See the ICQ2 sounds like it would be food for me. I vape anyway so have a few external chargers and 18650 batteries already so you're right usb c wouldn't matter. I just assumed wrong it was a newer model. I can keep a few batteries at hand in my carry case so it's not an issue but taking my mighty out requires quite a large vape bag and if I can slip the Davinci in my firedog large bag I'd be happy. As long as it doesn't take too long per session and it can give a kick if needed I'd be happy with that. Although I'm assuming there isn't any water options for it?

I've used the Mighty & Crafty quite a bit and enjoy them. What they do, they do really well.

Is that compared to the mighty? I've never tried a crafty so did consider a plenty but since not touching the volcano I haven't bothered.
There are lots of reads discussing and comparing the IQ2 to the IQC. Google, read and see what you think. E.g.
https://vaping360.com/reviews/davinci-iqc-iq2-review/

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I've been looking for the dedicated thread but with no luck but ill keep looking.
I would not bother with the silicone WPA, but there is also a bubbler mouthpiece, though I'm not sure if they have it yet there... I bought mine from there though before the accessories came out, I only just got the accessories directly from Topgreen now... And so who are these people on Instagram saying no then? Did they actually spend enough time with it, what is their experience, etc... If you look in the thread here, there are a few people that didn't get on with it, but most people have a very positive impression!

That's true I didn't see any accessories mentioned just that out of the box it didn't compare to the mighty. But I'll do some reading.
I threw the silicone piece in just in case as it was £3 and I like to get a few spares of things but if it's not needed that's great. I'm still unsure tbh with a few things in baskets but I'm slowly narrowing it down thanks to your help so thank you.
I will say it's not like the stempod in many other ways, but yes there are chamber is glass (or wood) stems, many pros and cons to stem-based vapes, for me and my usage the pros tend to outweigh the cons... However yes the price lol

Are we talking about the 510 mod now. Even though it sounds great I think I'd like to rule out stem based vapes that will knock a few down and butane. Only 18650 lol
Oh, no, that looks like the vivant ambit actually, pretty identical, although I guess with a replaceable battery? I don't know yeah could be in the same league I suppose but smaller...? Xmax also has the fog pro now for a similar looking style session convection btw
Is that the Nebula Fuzion? It looks good but again it's taking a leap on something new.

Oh! Hahaha but this is that next version, it literally just came out for sale now, so pretty sure whoever you spoke to at a local shop was talking about the original, and yes it had problems, but thanks to a member here who tested the original with a lot of different coils and such, the V2 seems like a real winner... So yeah you wouldn't need to load stems with this one! On demand pure convection...
Ah that makes sense then thank you so thats an option again. But with a learning curve.
Yeah there's a lot of cross compatibility, Taroma is the most expensive one I think but a stable beast, still pretty new though all around, there are a lot of options for desktop heavies and you do already have one!

Yes I know I dont need another desktop for now lol so I'll stick with the portable but I can see the taroma and qaroma doing well.
Haha not at all, yeah I don't know, I think it heats up a little faster than the mighty, but it is more pure conduction, cooking the vapor for you in the ceramic, but it has fancy temperature control settings that can automatically raise as you go, airflow dial... yeah it is fine to load with a little scoop and tamp tool, and you will want a little poke tool to empty though it does have that, a full bowl is a lot of herb though, that's why those are zirconia spacers are really great, however they make the unloading quite a bit trickier...

Sorry im getting confused which vape is this the ICQ2? Or the XMAX? I'd like to know the bowl size on the ICQ2. I haven't heard of the spacers.
As long as you are preloaded with a bowl you are good to go, it is just the loading unloading as always may not be ideal but definitely better than a mighty I think in my experience??

Yes so its mainly just brushed aluminium and USB c with less features but the ICQ2 is sounding more promising. I dont mind brushing or scraping the bowl out. I've seen it has a chamber you can pull out to soak which is good for cleaning and also has dosing capsules?
. However another way the IQ2 will not be like these vapes, again it is pure conduction, these other vapes have convection going on, so that's a big difference with the DaVinci stuff.

Yeah I totally agree it's difficult who to trust and who's unbiased etc so I come here! I mainly use dosing caps in the mighty to be honest but mainly for ease of use so I know I've one ready to go so I probably would try them and see. What's the biggest difference in cooking then with the mighty? Would I need to stir the ICQ2 or does it just cook the herb differently? Just trying to get my head around it however I think the xmax v3pro Despite the lower price! If you go for that budget option, yes even more money for the taroma fund lol
I'm so torn. My guts telling me to get the xmax but I'm scared of being dissapointed and wishing I'd gotten the ICQ2 its difficult isn't it. I've had someone flat out tell me there Xmax just sits on the shelf and they use the mighty more but I know everyone is different. Oh decisions!
But also look in the most recent pages of the product threads and skim your way backwards, you will get a sense of how the vape is working for people and hopefully how it could work for you!

Thank you I will do, I've just been searching the site and reading that way hopefully I'll pick up some more info. I inow the people that shout loudest are the most heard I just had such a negative reaction I thought whoa
Yeah you don't want to mess with the used market for that reason either, you need something sooner rather than later..

I've got everything in the basket im just sat deciding lol. I don't have the fury edge dosing caps unfortunately mine are the rogue which are slightly less taller and wider so may not fit. Ok I've got some thinking to do 🤔

@Compassionqueen about the Minivap this is what I can remember reading about it.

edit: have you added glass or ruby balls to your elev8r yet????

Thanks I'd like to hear a bit more about it! And yes I have the ruby pearls In mine like https://ibb.co/wWPmPLW

I love my miniVAPs for full flavor and efficiently..

Yeah thats no good so I can strike that off the list the really
Taffee Bowle is super quick and easy to load/use and it’s genius stem gives you super cool vapor without running thru water. But tiny battery so plug in after every session!

Hmm okay I'm going to have to give the taffee bowle a proper look now.
 
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Minivap also has the ability to be plugged into the wall and used that way as a desktop. @MinnBobber what is the load size of the core??? 🙏

The MiniVAP can hold 0.5 gram according to others as I only load to about 1/4 of capacity.

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Filters catch almost all of those nasty ABV micro dust particles….keeps your bbbler or throat much cleaner
 

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I have a little bit of a hard time recommending the bowle. first the finish can peel off the vape and stem, I've been particularly blessed and never experienced either but there have been several reports in the thread, my saving grace is I never used hot iso to clean the vape (never cleaned the vape aside from the oven chamber) or the stem I only have used room temp. second is reliability I'm on my third unit and I'm not alone with that but there are probably more units that are fine then have had problems. third is the lack of movement on accessories, they have as of yet to upgrade to a glass cup, release a wpa, switch the charging port to usbc from micro usb, all of which they have promised but have yet to deliver. and last is battery life which stinks and I say that as a micro doser. all that said I do love the vape even if its not my number one vape. what you will get is effortless smooth cool vapour that has very good flavour. a very ergonomic experience and comfortable draw. excellent efficiency with the ceramic pots which if you back to back/ finish a pot in a timely session, it gets hot enough to vape everything that touches the walls so no stirring needed and quick swap outs. I did say battery life was poor but it does charge quickly in a hour give or take a little. I actually like the cup though most don't use it, I find it heavenly bowle with cup in one hand, spatula in the other flipping buggers in the back yard channeling my inner sponge bob lol. it would be nice if it had more temp settings but the ones it comes with work very well. its a very good vape and im glad I have mine as I do really enjoy it.

edit their cs is top notch though
 
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@Shit Snacks and others are steering you in the right directions, but here are my quick thoughts based on your list from before and some of the suggestions I’ve seen here:

Flowerpot B1, Teroma/Ceroma/Qaroma, Atlas/Halo are all in a similar vein. If you’re okay with an exposed heater, performance should be some of the best around and the bowl/heater combo fits your desire to stir, etc.

FW7 is wood so people have different experiences with it. Living in a desert with low humidity, the parts slide apart easily enough for me. Plus there is a little notch you can use to force the door open if needed. The parts also tend to loosen up after a bit of use. It may or may not be the best fit for you, but I’m happy to have one.

The DaVinci stuff (IQ2/IQC) is not going to extract as fast as convection devices can, but they’re a more solid choice than Reddit would have you believe. Don’t expect them to put out as much vapor as fast as hybrid or convection heaters though.

The Bowle is an interesting one too. I haven’t tried it, but it’s a newer design by the guy behind the Minivap and a lot of people seem to like it (maybe apart from the cup aspect). I think it would get the job done.

I originally came in to say check out the Herbie V2 since you already have e-cig stuff (as long as your mods are up to powering it). If you have an 18650 or larger battery in yours I think it would be worth asking them about how easy it would be with your specific issues, but it does have a bowl and option for dosing capsules.

You might like the TP80, but it’s stem loading too, so if you don’t want that…

Finally the XMax V3 Pro, I doubt it would hold up against the other convention options in the list so I can see why it would be sitting on some shelves, but from what I’ve heard it’s a step up for budget convection options. I suspect a side by side comparison would put the Herbie v2 ahead though.

Hope that helps, good luck finding the right one!

Edit: Fixed a couple of typos.
 
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Shit Snacks

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See the ICQ2 sounds like it would be good for me... I just assumed wrong it was a newer model.
No IQC is the newer model, its just made to be lower end compared to IQ2, so not as fully featured, despite being newer...

As long as it doesn't take too long per session and it can give a kick if needed I'd be happy with that. Although I'm assuming there isn't any water options for it?
Oh, well its not exactly quick sessions, again depends how much you load and the temp you are using, but it is slower than the mighty (it heats up quicker, but it extracts slower I think, if you're comparing the same temperature settings, DaVinci can actually go higher though) also it has water connection out of the box, DaVinci includes a flat mouthpiece and a straw mouthpiece that is 10mm so you will need adapters to connect to 14mm however...

I've been looking for the dedicated thread but with no luck
IQC thread & IQ2 thread these are all in the portable section, easy to find just skimming through! They're not super active, but they were not that far back, just page three...

That's true I didn't see any accessories mentioned just that out of the box it didn't compare to the mighty.
That's silly, and general, sure it compares to the mighty, I much prefer it, heats up much quicker and has the ability to be on demand with more pure convection than the mighty, also it can hold less more efficient with removable 18650 batteries... Oh yeah it also has the ability to go to a higher temperature, so it can extract darker than the mighty in my experience... Also I think it tastes better than the mighty, the vapor path with the ceramic, small but it does a great job cooling with the stock setup... People are just obsessed with the mighty, if someone loves it, there's a good likelihood they won't like a lot of other really good vapes that I think are much much better than it lol

I threw the silicone piece in just in case as it was £3 and I like to get a few spares of things but if it's not needed that's great.
Yeah I just don't think it makes sense, I would much rather be using the glass WPA, the silicone one is not as good of connection and it's all silicone, you're still using the ceramic cooling pad in the mouthpiece which is unnecessary if you're using a water piece...? I would instead get two of the glass WPA to have a spare maybe lol

Are we talking about the 510 mod now. Even though it sounds great I think I'd like to rule out stem based vapes that will knock a few down and butane. Only 18650 lol
Haha no that was just about the tetra, and stem-based vapes, yeah sounds like you don't like stem-based vapes even though I love them lol no butane for me either really

Is that the Nebula Fuzion?
Have to look again, but think it's just a rebrand with replaceable batteries? They could have changed other things, but I don't think it is going to be much different from a healthy rips vape...

Ah that makes sense then thank you so thats an option again. But with a learning curve.
Yeah HerbieV2 is a good option with your e-cig stuff, and because it has a chamber to load instead of stems, yes there could be a learning curve as with any on-demand vape there typically is, however I think this one could be easier once you get it set up with temp control, which sounds like it should be pretty easy too! Oh and it can fit S&B capsules btw

can see taroma and qaroma doing well.
Yeah I am watching them too, mainly Ceroma for myself, but I really love Cloud Connoisseur!

Sorry im getting confused which vape is this the ICQ2? Or the XMAX? I'd like to know the bowl size on the ICQ2. I haven't heard of the spacers.
Haha yeah we're talking about too much, that blurb was about the IQ C & 2, as I said above, comparing it to the mighty for you a bit... The bowl size is a ceramic tube, it holds upwards of 0.3g max I think? I prefer to use less in a session, so the spacers allow that (you load less and then put the spacer in on top of it to keep it packed tight for pure conduction)

ICQ2 is sounding more promising... I've seen it has a chamber you can pull out to soak which is good for cleaning and also has dosing capsules?
Yeah I know you like the style of IQ stuff, yeah especially when hot it's easy to empty the bowl, no brushing or scraping really even needed if you do it right after you finish, but it's also easy to run a brush through and iso qtip swab when really dirty... So that chamber is actually the vapor path (they used to call it a flavor chamber so you could add stuff in there but no one does), that is removable to take out for cleaning, not really necessary but maybe with heavy heavy use, because you could also clean with a q-tip, the chamber itself, the ceramic herb chamber that is also the oven because it is session conduction, that is not removable at all... Yeah they have these ceramic dosing capsules which do not look like they would work well I have not tried it yet but a couple people in the thread liked them, otherwise they have these newer steel capsules, but I have not tried those either, I'm not really interested, I don't like capsules lol

mainly use dosing caps in the mighty to be honest but mainly for ease of use so I know I've one ready to go so I probably would try them and see.
Yeah they are different, shape of the mighty and its oven, I hate those capsules with their aluminum and the way they fit together, the tediousness of loading and unloading them in advance and afterwards, I just hate it lol

What's the biggest difference in cooking then with the mighty? Would I need to stir the ICQ2 or does it just cook the herb differently?
You should not need to stir with either of these, since they both incorporate session conduction, that means an automatic even extraction (mighty thanks to the chamber walls as you inhale convection through it too) so you just load IQ and pack tight, only open to empty, bc of the pure conduction. I dont stir xmax v3pro either, even though its pure convection, it has good temp control and small enough bowl for even extraction...

My guts telling me to get the xmax but I'm scared of being disappointed wishing I'd gotten the ICQ2... I've had someone flat out tell me there Xmax just sits on the shelf and they use the mighty more but I know everyone is different
Yeah it doesnt matter that someone else sits it on shelf and uses mighty more, you dont know them or their needs, if there is a reason mighty is not doing for you what you need it to, xmax v3pro is going to be a counterpart, quicker heat up, pure convection on demand capable or session style, wider temperature range, smaller size, replaceable 18650, easy water connection and other options...

IQC/2 gives you a larger chamber size, but totally different pure conduction session style, more like a Pax or Flowermate, its basic vaping tech, however they add a lot of bells and whistle to make it the nicest way to enjoy the basic imo... Xmax is more useful and impressive to me, despite its budget status, but IQ2 is quite nice superficially!

Neither of them are my go-to, but my DaVinci sits in the drawer more?

Thank you I will do, just been searching the site and reading that way hopefully I'll pick up some more
Haha yeah just one person or a few, who really love mighty and were really not happy with v3pro for whatever reason, if they dont have a lot of other experience, its likely they did not spend enough time to get to know it and the technique, whenever you get a new vape, especially one that uses completely different design than what youre used to, its important to spend time only using it, so you get to know it properly, get the most out of it for you and your needs...

The search is great, but it can be limiting, its better to go look at a thread, start from the most recent page and skim backwards to get a general sense of the products and owners.

don't have the fury edge dosing caps unfortunately mine are the rogue
Yeah rogue caps won't fit, but edge caps are easy to get!

Hmm okay I'm going to have to give the taffee bowle a proper look now.
Yeah it may work for you better than you think, despite the lack of water connection, but hopefully they come out with that soon too... It has more of the sleek industrial smart design and simplicity that reminds me of IQ and it has more power than xmax though only for temp settings... Chamber can hold more, but still not as big as IQ (so this is one thing, if you were using session conduction like the IQ with a full bowl, its going to be strong effects because you're using so much, so I think efficiency is going to be greater with the pure convection on demand units like xmax herbie tafee, generally!)
 
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See the ICQ2 sounds like it would be food for me. I vape anyway so have a few external chargers and 18650 batteries already so you're right usb c wouldn't matter. I just assumed wrong it was a newer model. I can keep a few batteries at hand in my carry case so it's not an issue but taking my mighty out requires quite a large vape bag and if I can slip the Davinci in my firedog large bag I'd be happy. As long as it doesn't take too long per session and it can give a kick if needed I'd be happy with that. Although I'm assuming there isn't any water options for it?



Is that compared to the mighty? I've never tried a crafty so did consider a plenty but since not touching the volcano I haven't bothered.

I've been looking for the dedicated thread but with no luck but ill keep looking.
The IQ2 / IQC sounds great for you, especially from your feature preference list. The IQ2 heats up fast to vape in ~45 seconds. It can give big clouds with the huge 1+ gram chamber (see the YT videos & conduction vapes like to be packed). Can be very potent. As mentioned by others, there are spacers and chamber options as well for the more micro-dosing oriented with the IQ2/IQC.

I, like many, found the Mighty and Crafty similar to each other for vapor quality and performance... with the Crafty being more compact but having worse battery life. Very comparable overall.

The Davinci IQ2 is also a very flexible premium ultraportable evape and it extracts reasonably quickly with slow stead draws... similar to the Mighty/Crafty for example imo (but with a bigger chamber option holding more cannabis). The flavors in the first few IQ2/IQC draws are impressive as well, like a good convection vape. Water options are infinite for the IQ2/IQC. The IQ2 comes with a 14 mm adapter to use with any 14 mm water bong (there are 14/18 mm adapters too). It's a great setup. The anodized metal body is heavy and oozes quality. A cool dot matrix display, etc. Lots to think about.

I see the IQ2 owners thread was posted already 👍.

No vape is perfect, think about it and see which one suits you best. I've personally found heating method/style less important than form factor and design... those things and how they suit you are where the rubber meets the road for most! Hope the info helps and good luck with the search.

Happy holidays

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Medivapequeen

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The MiniVAP can hold 0.5 gram according to others as I only load to about 1/4 of capacity.

Picture of Flexicone modules: wire basket + round rimmed screen + paper filter made from hemp tea filters + Flexicone silicone lid + Delta3DStudios black silicone wpa.

Filters catch almost all of those nasty ABV micro dust particles….keeps your bbbler or throat much cleaner

Thank you thats very helpful. Are those all accessories you've bought? I have the deltastudios silicone wpa for the mighty but plenty of screens and stuff. Does it need all this to work well? The filters sound like a good idea

I have a little bit of a hard time recommending the bowle. first the finish can peel off the vape and stem, I've been particularly blessed and never experienced either but there have been several reports in the thread, my saving grace is I never used hot iso to clean the vape (never cleaned the vape aside from the oven chamber) or the stem I only have used room temp. second is reliability I'm on my third unit and I'm not alone with that but there are probably more units that are fine then have had problems. third is the lack of movement on accessories, they have as of yet to upgrade to a glass cup, release a wpa, switch the charging port to usbc from micro usb, all of which they have promised but have yet to deliver. and last is battery life which stinks and I say that as a micro doser. all that said I do love the vape even if its not my number one vape. what you will get is effortless smooth cool vapour that has very good flavour. a very ergonomic experience and comfortable draw. excellent efficiency with the ceramic pots which if you back to back/ finish a pot in a timely session, it gets hot enough to vape everything that touches the walls so no stirring needed and quick swap outs. I did say battery life was poor but it does charge quickly in a hour give or take a little. I actually like the cup though most don't use it, I find it heavenly bowle with cup in one hand, spatula in the other flipping buggers in the back yard channeling my inner sponge bob lol. it would be nice if it had more temp settings but the ones it comes with work very well. its a very good vape and im glad I have mine as I do really enjoy it.

edit their cs is top notch though

Thanks for the honesty there. The Taffee bowl or the minivap are sounding like my best options at the moment. How poor of a battery are we talking as in how many bowls per charge and does it have pass through? My main worry is reliability as if something breaks I can't afford to be without a vape. I'm not too bothered about peeling although for the price it shouldn't. So you can't clean with iso just the cup internal parts?

It does sound Intriguing and the cup has always made me go why. What do you put in there and is it just a holder for a drink on the side? It looks like it would sit well in my small area but the battery life and reliability does worry me.

@Shit Snacks and others are steering you in the right directions, but here are my quick thoughts based on your list from before and some of the suggestions I’ve seen here:

Flowerpot B1, Teroma/Ceroma/Qaroma, Atlas/Halo are all in a similar vein. If you’re okay with an exposed heater, performance should be some of the best around and the bowl/heater combo fits your desire to stir, etc.

I've got the Coil version of the Elev8tr so I was thinking of replacing that with the taroma eventually as it looks a lot more stable even the stand etc although I'm really happy with the Elev8tr for now and when the time comes my current PiD will work with it so I just need the bits. As the elev8tr is so fragile especially with the megaglobe it's in the kitchen and the tsroma looks more like one I can put on the side next to my chair and not worry too much.

FW7 is wood so people have different experiences with it. Living in a desert with low humidity, the parts slide apart easily enough for me. Plus there is a little notch you can use to force the door open if needed. The parts also tend to loosen up after a bit of use. It may or may not be the best fit for you, but I’m happy to have one.

I'd love to have one and probably will get one if I ever get the chance but I inow the odds of getting one are quite low
The DaVinci stuff (IQ2/IQC) is not going to extract as fast as convection devices can, but they’re a more solid choice than Reddit would have you believe. Don’t expect them to put out as much vapor as fast as hybrid or convection heaters though.

Yes i just asked In the Davinci reddit and was told not to buy it by themselves so that's thrown me a little as it looked easy to load etc but yes I know its not going to be as powerful.
The Bowle is an interesting one too. I haven’t tried it, but it’s a newer design by the guy behind the Minivap and a lot of people seem to like it (maybe apart from the cup aspect). I think it would get the job done.

Ah I didn't know it was the same person okay ill really check that out now but it's very expensive compared to others. I always wondered who thought of putting a cup there lol
I originally came in to say check out the Herbie V2 since you already have e-cig stuff (as long as your mods are up to powering it). If you have an 18650 or larger battery in yours I think it would be worth asking them about how easy it would be with your specific issues, but it does have a bowl and option for dosing capsules.

Yes I belive Ive got the mod that comes with the P80 flashed with Arctic fox which i use with the stempod. If the herbie works then fab! Mine is single 18650 but I don't mind upgrading. Im just put off by the mesh coils and how well they will heat having used them in rdas but I know you can change the coils I just didn't want to get back into fiddling with small screws etc.

u might like the TP80, but it’s stem loading too, so if you don’t want that…

Yeah no I thought it had a bowl so that's off the list.

Finally the XMax V3 Pro, I doubt it would hold up against the other convention options in the list so I can see why it would be sitting on some shelves, but from what I’ve heard it’s a step up for budget convection options. I suspect a side by side comparison would put the Herbie v2 ahead though.

Hope that helps, good luck finding the right one!

Edit: Fixed a couple of typos.

Thank you for the detailed replies. I didn't go for the Xmax just because with all the accessories it's still £150 ish which is a lot to take a gamble on.

Sorry im having to reply individually well as little as I can due to the character limit.
 
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I've got the Coil version of the Elev8tr

Elev8r btw no extra t because eight had one ;):p

It does sound Intriguing and the cup has always made me go why. What do you put in there and is it just a holder for a drink on the side? It looks like it would sit well in my small area but the battery life and reliability does worry me

Yeah you can really put anything in there, but I think it's because vaping goes well with the glass of water, and the water helps cool the vapor path further! Yeah I think it would fit well for you although if you see in the thread it could be a mix of reliability battery life stuff, some people are very happy still, some bought too... It's not cheap...

How poor of a battery are we talking as in how many bowls per charge and does it have pass through? My main worry is reliability as if something breaks I can't afford to be without a vape. I'm not too bothered about peeling although for the price it shouldn't. So you can't clean with iso just the cup internal parts?

You should be able to get through all four or five chamber pots that it comes with in one charge (I'm actually not sure if it comes with this many or just one now) but it depends on the temperature settings and how many hits, how full of bowls, etc... It does not have true passthrough, which would be running off of the wall power, but you can use it while it's charging, and it does charge quickly at least!

Ah I didn't know it was the same person okay ill really check that out now but it's very expensive compared to others. I always wondered who thought of putting a cup there lol

Yeah he actually teamed up with a dude from store & bickel and that may be the only reason the product was not totally laughed out of the community lol Yeah supposedly they did not design it and then add the cup, they thought of the cup and built it all together!

Yes I belive Ive got the mod that comes with the P80 flashed with Arctic fox which i use with the stempod. If the herbie works then fab! Mine is single 18650 but I don't mind upgrading. Im just put off by the mesh coils and how well they will heat having used them in rdas but I know you can change the coils I just didn't want to get back into fiddling with small screws etc.

You will be fine using that mod with the Herbie, also the mesh heater coil in the Herby, it's not like what you have already used, for one thing it is not actually a coil, for another it is brand new custom made for the Herbie, it is more like what RBT was using in the Splinter and Alan in the iHeat... I also think the deck in the Herbie does not even use screws? If you did want to change coils, but the steel mesh is going to be the best I think, trust me it's not what you're thinking of, I'm fairly certain!

Sorry im having to reply individually well as little as I can due to the character limit

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Medivapequeen

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No IQC is the newer model..
That's what I've figured thanks and it does have the adjustable airflow as I like it quite open.
IQC thread & IQ2 thread

That's silly, and general, sure it compares to the mighty, I much prefer it, heats up much quicker and has the ability to be on demand with more pure convection than the mighty, also it can hold less more efficient with removable 18650 batteries... Oh yeah it also has the ability to go to a higher temperature, so it can extract darker than the mighty in my experience...

Well I was almost set on the IQ2 until I posted in the Davinci subreddit. I read through the posts on here some are hit and miss but it seems like there are lot of broken units and the customer service isn't great. Well the sub itself said don't buy it so that's made me a bit worried lol I inow each to their own but with them being USA if it does break although I've got those ten years I can't afford to be without a vape for so long.

Yeah I just don't think it makes sense, I would much rather be using the glass WPA, the silicone one is not as good of connection and it's all silicone, you're still using the ceramic cooling pad in the mouthpiece which is unnecessary
Yeah with the Xmax that makes more sense. I'm just one of those right ill buy 2 of everything Just in case lol im still on the fence 🙃

Have to look again, but think it's just a rebrand with replaceable batteries? They could have changed other things, but I don't think it is going to be much different from a healthy rips vape...
Yeah thats what I thought so I'll take that one off the list as I think I'll be selling my Rogue when it comes back as it's not been missed unfortunately.
Yeah HerbieV2 is a good option with your e-cig stuff, and because it has a chamber to load instead of stems, yes there could be a learning curve as with any on-demand vape there typically is, however I think this one could be easier once you get it set up with temp control, which sounds like it should be pretty easy too! Oh and it can fit S&B capsules btw

I'm going to have to relook into this now because I was told by a retailer to hold off that it wasn't great but on here people are saying its good so maybe there were changes implemented however he's still not stocking it so it just makes me worry but I can always wait to see what people say now its out. The fact it fits the capsules was a complete winner for me ahs the ruby pearls. So ideally if that works I'd be thrilled and just get a better box mod.
Yeah I am watching them too, mainly Ceroma for myself, but I really love Cloud Connoisseur!

Yeah I think they will do well I'll definitely be getting a taroma or qaroma at some point.
Haha yeah we're talking about too much,

Yes sorry there's too much going on! I've read about the spacers. Tbh i probably wouldn't use it as I use the mighty dosing caps so would probably just fill the bowl. Although alot of people say the little pearl breaks very easily inside. But the bowl size sounds perfect
Yeah I know you like the style of IQ stuff, yeah especially when hot it's easy to empty the bowl, no brushing or scraping really even needed if you do it right after you finish, but it's also easy to run a brush through and iso qtip swab when really dirty... So that chamber is actually the vapor path (they used to call it a flavor chamber so you could add stuff in there but no one does), that is removable to take out for cleaning, not really necessary but maybe with heavy heavy use, because you could also clean with a q-tip, the chamber itself, the ceramic herb chamber that is also the oven because it is session conduction, that is not removable at all... Yeah they have these ceramic dosing capsules which do not look like they would work well I have not tried it yet but a couple people in the thread liked them, otherwise they have these newer steel capsules, but I have not tried those either, I'm not really interested, I don't like capsules lol

I kinda use the capsules for Convenience so im not panicking when I need an urgent dose and can't fill a bowl quick enough. But they aren't super important as I'll keep my mighty. See everything you say makes me want the IQ2 then I go on reddit and go hmmm lol
Yeah they are different, shape of the mighty and its oven, I hate those capsules with their aluminum and the way they fit together, the tediousness of loading and unloading them in advance and afterwards, I just hate it lol
Tell me about it. I have nightmares about filling those caps. The filling aid helps but not with hash sandwiches and the the lid falls off etc

You should not need to stir with either of these, since they both incorporate session conduction, that means an automatic even extraction (mighty thanks to the chamber walls as you inhale convection through it too) so you just load IQ and pack tight, only open to empty, bc of the pure conduction. I dont stir xmax v3pro either, even though its pure convection, it has good temp control and small enough bowl for even extraction...

That's good to know I dont need to stir either thank you.
Yeah it doesnt matter that someone else sits it on shelf and uses mighty more, you dont know them or their needs, if there is a reason mighty is not doing for you what you need it to, xmax v3pro is going to be a counterpart, quicker heat up, pure convection on demand capable or session style, wider temperature range, smaller size, replaceable 18650, easy water connection and other options...

IQC/2 gives you a larger chamber size, but totally different pure conduction session style, more like a Pax or Flowermate, its basic vaping tech, however they add a lot of bells and whistle to make it the nicest way to enjoy the basic imo... Xmax is more useful and impressive to me, despite its budget status, but IQ2 is quite nice superficially!

Neither of them are my go-to, but my DaVinci sits in the drawer more?

I totally get you and I should probably just get the Xmax I'm just waiting to see all my options first. I do know a few people and I asked and they just said it doesn't hit hard but I know that's dependant on person. What is your go to vape? If the ICQ2 is basic then it's best to strike it off the list especially for the price.
Haha yeah just one person or a few, who really love mighty and were really not happy with v3pro for whatever reason, if they dont have a lot of other experience,

Definitely agree. I'm going to have to look at the xmax properly because it's between this and a semi portable like the Taffee or Minivap so I can at least move it around easily.
The search is great, but it can be limiting, its better to go look at a thread, start from the most recent page and skim backwards to get a general sense of the products and owners.

I have been doing now thanks for the tip im still learning this site properly.
Yeah rogue caps won't fit, but edge caps are easy to get!
Sorry which device was this for 😆
Yeah it may work for you better than you think, despite the lack of water
Okay so I think I've narrowed it down to these now

Tafée bowle
Minivap
IQ2 - it would always be a full bowl for a harder hit maybe with hash.
Xmax V3
Herbie V2
 

Medivapequeen

Well-Known Member
The Xmax V3 Pro is slower and can't hit like the Tinymight. I think @oddjobold shared an early update saying the Herbie V2 had a leg up on it as well

This is my main worry with the Xmax although I could never get the tinymight hitting right. I think I'm going to have to look at the herbie again. I had heard there were hotspotting issues and not much vapor have those been solved? I'll go check the thread anyway

The IQ2 / IQC sounds great for you, especially from your feature preference list. The IQ2 heats up fast to vape in ~45 seconds. It can give big clouds with the huge 1+ gram chamber (see the YT videos & conduction vapes like to be packed). Can be very potent. As mentioned by others, there are spacers and chamber options as well for the more micro-dosing oriented with the IQ2/IQC.

I, like many, found the Mighty and Crafty similar to each other for vapor quality and performance... with the Crafty being more compact but having worse battery life. Very comparable overall.

The Davinci IQ2 is also a very flexible premium ultraportable evape and it extracts reasonably quickly with slow stead draws... similar to the Mighty/Crafty for example imo (but with a bigger chamber option holding more cannabis). The flavors in the first few IQ2/IQC draws are impressive as well, like a good convection vape. Water options are infinite for the IQ2/IQC. The IQ2 comes with a 14 mm adapter to use with any 14 mm water bong (there are 14/18 mm adapters too). It's a great setup. The anodized metal body is heavy and oozes quality. A cool dot matrix display, etc. Lots to think about.

I see the IQ2 owners thread was posted already 👍.

No vape is perfect, think about it and see which one suits you best. I've personally found heating method/style less important than form factor and design... those things and how they suit you are where the rubber meets the road for most! Hope the info helps and good luck with the search.

Happy holidays

:peace: :leaf:

It does/ did look great but I put a post in the actual Davinci subreddit asking them for advice and not one owner has said to buy one. I know the loudest are seen as in faults etc its just worried me as I'm in the UK so couldn't afford to be without a vape while it was being fixed in the US. I'm so conflicted because I love the IQ2 but it looks like there are a lot of issues.

I only worry with the herbie and my declining health is that I used to be able to use rdas and mech mods but since being ill I stuggle with small screws and precision so worry about installing coils etc in the herbie.
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
I'm going to have to relook into this now because I was told by a retailer to hold off that it wasn't great but on here people are saying its good so maybe there were changes implemented however he's still not stocking it so it just makes me worry but I can always wait to see what people say now its out. The fact it fits the capsules was a complete winner for me ahs the ruby pearls. So ideally if that works I'd be thrilled and just get a better box mod.

Yeah I mean I am pretty positive that retailer was talking about the V1, I know they changed a lot based off of one person here in particular who tested a lot with the original, so the V2 should be better, but I also don't think it's available really for him to stock yet it literally only just launched yesterday for us to order on their website? So I don't see how he could possibly say he's not stocking it lol like obviously he's not... But yeah we'll all be talking about it in that thread soon enough since a lot of us ordered!

I totally get you and I should probably just get the Xmax I'm just waiting to see all my options first. I do know a few people and I asked and they just said it doesn't hit hard but I know that's dependant on person. What is your go to vape? If the ICQ2 is basic then it's best to strike it off the list especially for the price.

Yeah it's dependent on the person but also their style of use, xmax v3pro absolutely can hit hard if you know how to hit pure convection on demand, which can be tricky for some people... I don't think it's that hard, easy to find tips, but nothing is for everyone? IQ just uses basic session conduction which has been around for a while now and especially at the budget level, like I said they just found a way to make it fancy! Perhaps more of a risk though yeah for you depending where you buy??

I think I said, my go-to is the TM and the FW7, they pretty much always see daily use, haven't left the house in a while to vape though lol also Tetra and RBT (beta testing the original Zion changed the game for me with on demand pure convection desktop power portable, and I really like glass stem-based remember lol) vapes get rotated in along with Tafée, some hopper and the v3pro, Collyland bandits sometimes, but Halo and Atlas more typically now because of all the glass too, for the evenings...

Definitely agree. I'm going to have to look at the xmax properly because it's between this and a semi portable like the Taffee or Minivap so I can at least move it around easily.

Yeah I think that is very fair, and it being the budget option makes it easier to say why not try?

Sorry which device was this for 😆

Haha the fury edge capsules was for the xmax v3pro!

Oh and IQC I really didn't think it had the airflow dial but maybe I was wrong, I got my all my info about it from the thread here that I linked...

That P80 mod works best with Molicell P26A or P28A batteries btw That's the best way to get the most out of the percentage although it could depend on your firmware and of course the vape and its wattage draw... I'm thinking specifically with the tetra, but yeah the extra amps will be good for the single cell regardless!

Yeah I think your top five list is pretty solid narrowing down... Good job, but good luck deciding! It's just a decision for now though, not an end-all be-all...

Edit: this could be a good deal...
 

bossman

Gentleman Of Leisure
It's true that the tight fit of the glass stems makes the TM annoying to check your abv or stir. Apart from that the TM is really the powerful, versatile portable I'd recommend. Since very early on I've used mine without the clog-prone steel cooling unit a fancy j-hook from OregonGlassBlower.com or more recently with a bubbler.

The draw resistance and flavor are greatly improved getting the cooling unit out of the mix. Cleaning is way less frequent and easier this way too.

Granted the j-hook setup requires two-handed operation. I mostly vape at home so only ever fuck with the short stem for travel or the like.

You did say no glass stem vapes; it's just odd to be contemplating a more low-end portable like the V3 when the TM is the more capable. I'm only hoping the Herbie can slot in between the two for flavor and vapor quality: I don't think it'd be fair to expect better hits from a steel chamber and mouthpiece.
 

Bad Dog

Yeah I pissed on the rug...... so what
here's a few more details about the bowle you might find interesting. there was also talk in the thread of them releasing a medical version of the vape but there hasn't been any chatter on that in some time, if that is a important feature to you I would email Tafee and ask if there is any movement on that front, their CS is very good and typically fast.

for me I get 2 very full pots (I run a little bigger than the recommend load size) with 3-4 full 23 second timer hits at each of the 4 temp levels, so a total approximately between 12-16 hits total. but that's just the way I vape it , your results might vary depending on how you use it.

there is also a different stem you can buy separately that does not have the powder coating on it but I feel at the price point of the vape that should be included with the vape now.
 

Medivapequeen

Well-Known Member
Yeah I mean I am pretty positive that retailer was talking about the V1, I know they changed a lot based off of one person here in particular who tested a lot with the original, so the V2 should be better, but I also don't think it's available really for him to stock yet it literally only just launched yesterday for us to order on their website? So I don't see how he could possibly say he's not stocking it lol like obviously he's not... But yeah we'll all be talking about it in that thread soon enough since a lot of us ordered!
Thanks for the link ill be sure to watch the thead and see how it goes. Yeah it probably was the V1 I will speak to him next week and see what the crack is but yes I'm thinking of the old mesh coils that were used in old rdas as the next best thing but were awful. If its something different that's fab and yes your right it looks more like clamps or clips plus it's quite affordable so it's moving up the list.
Yeah it's dependent on the person but also their style of use, xmax v3pro absolutely can hit hard if you know how to hit pure convection on demand, which can be tricky for some people... I don't think it's that hard, easy to find tips, but nothing is for everyone? IQ just uses basic session conduction which has been around for a while now and especially at the budget level, like I said they just found a way to make it fancy! Perhaps more of a risk though yeah for you depending where you buy??

I don't know why I want the IQ2 I just have a strange gut feeling to buy it. That could because it looks good and appears good on paper or vas. I'm really not bothered what it looks like tbh but there just aren't that many options really that ate affordable at least.
I think I said, my go-to is the TM and the FW7, they pretty much always see daily use, haven't left the house in a while to vape though lol also Tetra and RBT (beta testing the original Zion changed the game for me with on demand pure convection desktop power portable, and I really like glass stem-based remember lol) vapes get rotated in along with Tafée, some hopper and the v3pro, Collyland bandits sometimes, but Halo and Atlas more typically now because of all the glass too, for the evenings...
If i can wait I'd probably still just get a FW7 because I know I could sell it if I didn't like it easily but its getting one that's the issue and I was told he doesn't ship to the UK?

If I could afford it I'd definitely buy the taffee after doing some research as it's perfect for what I need but it's too expensive unfortunately at least for now unless I save up. It would he great if companies did discounts for medical users or something as by law we legally have to vape our legal medical cannabis in the UK so I had to buy a vape to go legal.

I wish I liked the glas stems but ive been trying out the solo 2 again and it's the mixed draws. One can he a great session the next not depending on pack. I think I liked how easy the IQ2 is to pack and the herbie esp with the grinder! I was like yep I'm getting it then saw the price and availability here..
Yeah I think that is very fair, and it being the budget option makes it easier to say why not try?
I think I've beeb burnt so many times by budget vapes I'm just a little scared. I've saved up some cash as I don't have a lot I'm not able to work so if I get something and it's no good I fear I'll be stuck with it and stuffed.
Haha the fury edge capsules was for the xmax v3pro!

Thank you!
Oh and IQC I really didn't think it had the airflow dial but maybe I was wrong, I got my all my info about it from the thread here that I linked...

Yes the IQC has no airflow control or I'd just buy that and get the accessories as it looks newer
That P80 mod works best with Molicell P26A or P28A batteries btw That's the best way to get the most out of the percentage although it could depend on your firmware and of course the vape and its wattage draw... I'm thinking specifically with the tetra, but yeah the extra amps will be good for the single cell regardless!

I'll have a look Thanks it's been a while since I've properly bought vape batteries now im using the oxva I tend to stick with 21700s.
Yeah I think your top five list is pretty solid narrowing down... Good job, but good luck deciding! It's just a decision for now though, not an end-all be-all...

No I inow I'm still sat waiting to pull the trigger as I'm not sure and don't want to waste cash but I'll have to buy something eventually. I think secretly I just want the taroma and a cheap xmax 😆
Edit: this could be a good deal...
Thats great that thank you ill decide I still don't think I've permissions to post in the classifieds hit yet.
It's true that the tight fit of the glass stems makes the TM annoying to check your abv or stir. Apart from that the TM is really the powerful, versatile portable I'd recommend. Since very early on I've used mine without the clog-prone steel cooling unit a fancy j-hook from OregonGlassBlower.com or more recently with a bubbler.

The draw resistance and flavor are greatly improved getting the cooling unit out of the mix. Cleaning is way less frequent and easier this way too.

Granted the j-hook setup requires two-handed operation. I mostly vape at home so only ever fuck with the short stem for travel or the like.

You did say no glass stem vapes; it's just odd to be contemplating a more low-end portable like the V3 when the TM is the more capable. I'm only hoping the Herbie can slot in between the two for flavor and vapor quality: I don't think it'd be fair to expect better hits from a steel chamber and mouthpiece.

I know I just think since struggling with the tinymight and not liking it and other stem vaoes they just aren't for me I prefer a bowl but that set up sounds pretty cool.

here's a few more details about the bowle you might find interesting. there was also talk in the thread of them releasing a medical version of the vape but there hasn't been any chatter on that in some time, if that is a important feature to you I would email Tafee and ask if there is any movement on that front, their CS is very good and typically fast.

Is that reduced prices or cheaper models? Id love a Tafée bowle after doing the research but in the UK they are expensive and hard to get so I'd have to save up and wait a while to get one of those.
for me I get 2 very full pots (I run a little bigger than the recommend load size) with 3-4 full 23 second timer hits at each of the 4 temp levels, so a total approximately between 12-16 hits total. but that's just the way I vape it , your results might vary depending on how you use it.

there is also a different stem you can buy separately that does not have the powder coating on it but I feel at the price point of the vape that should be included with the vape now.

Yeah the taffee sounds perfect I may hold off and try to sell My new rogue when it arrives and see if I can get one from somewhere as it looks perfect for what I need tbh medically. I'd even need the water for my tablets etc.

Thank you for all your help youve all been really helpful. Now I need a magic eight ball to decide for me because I can't 😆 my minds saying balls to walls and get a taroma instead lmao
 

Bad Dog

Yeah I pissed on the rug...... so what
Is that reduced prices or cheaper models? Id love a Tafée bowle after doing the research but in the UK they are expensive and hard to get so I'd have to save up and wait a while to get one of those.
my guess, and it is only a guess but I think if tafee does release a medical version of the bowle it will likely be a bit more expensive than the current bowle. likely caused by the expense of the hoops they will have to jump through regulation wise and I can't imagine that it would not ship without the more expensive stem. all I remember is a few reports from users here that said Tafee is working on medical certification and that the same guy that did it for S&B was who they were working with, other than that I don't know anything. I'd have to hope they have learned a few things from the launch of the bowle and that the medical if they release it would have upgrades like a larger capacity battery, different placement of the indicator lights, glass cup, and more durable finish to name a few.
 

SquirrelMaster

Well-Known Member
I would not recommended the FW7 if you have any mobility issues. Mine has loosened up over time but is still tight. Bowl is definitely smaller than the Mighty but I prefer it over the Mighty in every way except dosing caps.

The Herbie V2 sounds like a good route for you. They look durable and will work with your current e-cig gear. I have one on order plus a mod from Aliexpress since they were sold out of bundles when I ordered. As @Shit Snacks was saying, the retailer you spoke with was probably talking about the V1 as the V2 just launched and sold out after a few days. More stock is coming in late January or February.

That's too bad you had issues with the Tinymight, it's the portable I always recommend for a multitude of reasons. You might have had a contact issue if it wasn't blasting vapor (which a properly working unit should).

I'm 100% with @Bad Dog on the Bowle, minus that I had some stem peeling and they sent me a replacement (way back when, I don't know if they do anymore). The battery life is not what it should be for the price they're asking imo. It's a fun device though and they have stellar customer service.

I have no experience with the XMax.
 

Medivapequeen

Well-Known Member
my guess, and it is only a guess but I think if tafee does release a medical version of the bowle it will likely be a bit more expensive than the current bowle. likely caused by the expense of the hoops they will have to jump through regulation wise and I can't imagine that it would not ship without the more expensive stem. all I remember is a few reports from users here that said Tafee is working on medical certification and that the same guy that did it for S&B was who they were working with, other than that I don't know anything. I'd have to hope they have learned a few things from the launch of the bowle and that the medical if they release it would have upgrades like a larger capacity battery, different placement of the indicator lights, glass cup, and more durable finish to name a few.

Yeah I understand the extra costs however S&B are expensive so I hope they don't go that route tbh but if it means a better battery then yay I suppose. Everything just seems to be getting more expensive!


@Compassionqueen I came across this in my travels, https://vaporific.ca they have both the Minivap and bowle both on a boxing week sale right now. not sure its a big enough savings on any import fees you would have to pay since they are located in Canada.
I'll have a look thank you. It depends whether I get stung at customs or not really and it's hit or miss but depending on it I could end up paying a fair chunk on it if i do buy from Canada but thank you.
I would not recommended the FW7 if you have any mobility issues. Mine has loosened up over time but is still tight. Bowl is definitely smaller than the Mighty but I prefer it over the Mighty in every way except dosing caps.
Thanks for being honest okay so I've definitely taken that off the list. Which is a shame as it was one of the more affordable powerful vapes.
The Herbie V2 sounds like a good route for you. They look durable and will work with your current e-cig gear. I have one on order plus a mod from Aliexpress since they were sold out of bundles when I ordered. As @Shit Snacks was saying, the retailer you spoke with was probably talking about the V1 as the V2 just launched and sold out after a few days. More stock is coming in late January or February.

Yes I'm definitely looking further into the herbie V2 as it ticks a few boxes for sure. What mod did you go for with it?
That's too bad you had issues with the Tinymight, it's the portable I always recommend for a multitude of reasons. You might have had a contact issue if it wasn't blasting vapor (which a properly working unit should).
There may well have been issues but the person I sold it too seems happy enough so I think it was more user error. I was hoping the tinymight would be the one but it just wasn't for me.

I'm 100% with @Bad Dog on the Bowle, minus that I had some stem peeling and they sent me a replacement (way back when, I don't know if they do anymore). The battery life is not what it should be for the price they're asking imo. It's a fun device though and they have stellar customer service.
Yeah its definitely top of my list if I can find one in budget I'd buy one now but its difficult to find them in the UK.
 

bossman

Gentleman Of Leisure
I've never used one so I have no first-hand knowledge, but I feel like the Bowle should be taken off the shortlist until they restock, fix the various issues and lower the price ($369usd!). It manages maybe four bowls on a charge, right? The $70 Vleaf Go has a bigger internal battery for goodness sake. That plus the peeling finish, aluminum airpath, and gimmicky acrylic cup design seem like things they could have addressed over the year and a half since its release. Even the FW7 lets you set the preset temps to any 10º increment.

Maybe the V3 Pro with a 14mm inception j-hook? That way you'd have the straightforward heater and controls of the V3 without the tighter draw and more frequent cleaning of the stock mouthpiece
 

Medivapequeen

Well-Known Member
I've never used one so I have no first-hand knowledge, but I feel like the Bowle should be taken off the shortlist until they restock, fix the various issues and lower the price ($369usd!). It manages maybe four bowls on a charge, right? The $70 Vleaf Go has a bigger internal battery for goodness sake. That plus the peeling finish, aluminum airpath, and gimmicky acrylic cup design seem like things they could have addressed over the year and a half since its release. Even the FW7 lets you set the preset temps to any 10º increment.

I agree it's very expensive and puts it out of my price range tbh I could get a taroma for not much more. But thank you I will take that off my list for now. Its getting smaller! Although I feel like im running out of options now so feel like heading back to the IQ2. I literally cannot choose things 😆 least I've got time to think and have a read of the herbie thread.
Maybe the V3 Pro with a 14mm inception j-hook? That way you'd have the straightforward heater and controls of the V3 without the tighter draw and more frequent cleaning of the stock mouthpiece
 
Medivapequeen,

SquirrelMaster

Well-Known Member
@Compassionqueen
I ordered the same mod Vape Engineering has in their bundle, the Mechlyfe Paramour side by side mod. I ordered a 21700 cell from VapeEngineering and bare mod from Aliexpress for about the same cost. There is a couple other sites listed in the Herbie thread that carry the same mod for about the same price. I choose Aliexpress over the others because the shipping time should be the same.

The only other thing I'll mention about the Bowle is that the 16 hits @Bad Dog is talking about works out to 4 pots (bowls) for myself before I need to charge.

@Bad Dog The aluminium in the Tinymight isn't in the vapor path though, just the fresh air path.
 
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