Ghost MV-1 Speculation and Shipping Thread

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YungLeaner

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chillersnov8p said:
Have u guys been following on insta or Twitter? They are spending quite a bit of $ on the rollout. Sponsoring the slightly stupid concert tour, massive bus with ghost logo on side, sending someone to Amsterdam in August. This thing has a massive budget it seems.
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To be quite honest this is more disconcerting to me than anything else.

I do not think the Vape Critic would put his name behind a bad product on purpose. But he has a financial stake in the success of the vaporizer and that gives me pause, in addition to the massive marketing rollout...

There are a lot of vapes that sell every day in headshops despite being crap. The Titan II has sold thousands and thousands of units...

This Ghost vape has too many proprietary pets for me to pre order and I'm uncomfortable with the amount being spent on promotional materials as opposed to vaporizer production. It's also very expensive for a China produced vape.

I could be wrong...I have been before and will be again. If this vape is what it says it is, I will likely buy one. But it is saying some very loud, confident things...
 
Marihuana

Marihuana

Iso Tensei
The thing that bothers me the most about the debacle is that he is reviewing his own vape, more or less. Don't get me wrong, I understand the hype, but personally, I like to wait on purchasing gear until I've gotten a sense of how my fellow end users are enjoying the product. I just don't want to end up with something I might want to ditch. My collection's for life! (or at least as long as they last)
 
MonsterWithoutBorders

MonsterWithoutBorders

Philosophim
Marihuana said:
The thing that bothers me the most about the debacle is that he is reviewing his own vape, more or less. Don't get me wrong, I understand the hype, but personally, I like to wait on purchasing gear until I've gotten a sense of how my fellow end users are enjoying the product. I just don't want to end up with something I might want to ditch. My collection's for life! (or at least as long as they last)
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It seems that with his 3 day guarantee he is making this very safe to buy.
 
KeroZen

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
Don't know... It took me way more than 3 days to realize that the Ascent had an air leak opening the electronics section to the vapor path and diluting the vapor... And it was not the first product of some unknown company. I can see me again raving about the advertised "all-glass vapor path" and the deception when I realized how strong the silicone smell was and how much they used it everywhere.

For other made in China vapes, it took me more than 3 days to do the burn-offs and hope that the robot fart smell would go away. Sometimes it did, sometimes it did not.

Reminds me the Elo, this one was good on paper with a 3S battery, full convection and an innovative capsule system to swap bowls on the go...

Until you have it in your hands, it's all marketing bullshit. You guys should rather support independent domestic vape makers, as we have the tremendous chance to have quite a few of them participating in our community (and producing killer products) rather than some hype company with the pockets full of money.

:2c:
 
Diggy Smalls

Diggy Smalls

Notorious
Yeah, big marketing usually means big hype. I don't care about hype. Which is all there is right now.
I watch the vape critic videos, and I've learned some things about Vapes I chose not to buy, but I've also been confused by his reviews when they are Vapes I own, at times. I don't always agree with him, but I enjoy his videos and his demoing of Vapes. That said, he's basically a rep for this new vape so his review on it doesn't mean anything more to me than a sales pitch.
 
mucsusn

mucsusn

60 going on 20
KeroZen said:
Don't know... It took me way more than 3 days to realize that the Ascent had an air leak opening the electronics section to the vapor path and diluting the vapor... And it was not the first product of some unknown company. I can see me again raving about the advertised "all-glass vapor path" and the deception when I realized how strong the silicone smell was and how much they used it everywhere.

For other made in China vapes, it took me more than 3 days to do the burn-offs and hope that the robot fart smell would go away. Sometimes it did, sometimes it did not.

Reminds me the Elo, this one was good on paper with a 3S battery, full convection and an innovative capsule system to swap bowls on the go...

Until you have it in your hands, it's all marketing bullshit. You guys should rather support independent domestic vape makers, as we have the tremendous chance to have quite a few of them participating in our community (and producing killer products) rather than some hype company with the pockets full of money.

:2c:
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Nailed it......
 
Hjalmark

Hjalmark

Oldest boy alive
So glad the Davinci ascent at least produced thick vapor (with a fully stuffed bowl) so it least got me stoned and helped me make the transformation

Even it died within 6 months (2x)

But damn that was a piece of shit design with a more then questionable insides then Trump

Reason I got the Enano afterwards because it's the Bernie sanders of vapes
 
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YungLeaner

Well-Known Member
StormyPinkness said:
This thread has a weird negativity to it... is this vape critic guy not popular on fc? The company? I feel like I'm missing something...
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If I supplied any "weird negativity" I apologize but I echo @KeroZen here, although I would fall short of telling people not to buy my project.

The vape critic is fine, he does a good job and really promotes the important benefits of vaporizing.

On the other hand, it is obviously difficult to take his comments at face value when he undoubtedly has a significant financial and professional stake in the sales numbers.

I'm not hating on him in the slightest. The man runs a business and he is trying to expand. However the fact that I like his videos doesn't erase the blatant conflict of interest.

I have yet to see a flashy marketing vaporizer succeed. I guess you could maybe count Boundless? But it took them some time...and they built their customer base through attentive CS and live stream giveaways, not banners and digital media onslaughts.

What all that marketing says to me is that the Ghost is being marketed to head shops and not just end consumers. As I said before--more power to them.

But I don't think too negative to make these points and temper my expectations for a $275 vaporizer with a panoply of moving plastic parts and a complicated airflow system. If this is a convection vape with removable bowl and good battery life it will sell. I'd likely go with CFV2 due to the godly CS i receuves from Boundless over the last few years...Confirmation of stateside repairs or a strong warranty replacement will be necessary for such a complicated piece of electronics.

I just feel like we have seen this story so many times. You know what I would love to see? A Chinese vape that's on demand, uncomplicated, has safe electronics and high temp plastics and a similar convective model to the torch vapes / the new wood portables. I would buy the shit out of a CFV with a fat battery pack and a serious heat sink designed for 1-2 hit bowls and a WPA mouthpiece.

I'm really fucking stoned. I love everything and everyone and I truly am rooting for everyone to succeed. Can't have enough awesome vapes on the market, and Vape critic is awesome.
 
florduh

florduh

Well-Known Member
I'd love to support a US produced vaporizer and usually do. Are there any that feature on-demand convection, temperature controlled, no draw resistance with cool vapor?

That's why I'm looking forward to getting this particular vaporizer. I haven't heard of anything that checks all of those boxes. It seems like there is a slight lack of innovation in the dry herb vaporizer industry. This product represents something new. It might be a bust, but their promises... to me at least, are worthy of a little "hype".

KeroZen said:
Until you have it in your hands, it's all marketing bullshit. You guys should rather support independent domestic vape makers, as we have the tremendous chance to have quite a few of them participating in our community (and producing killer products) rather than some hype company with the pockets full of money.

:2c:
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KeroZen

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
The mod inside the Tubo is designed and made in China and the rest of the device made in Switzerland, but it ticks all the other boxes. :p

But you made a point @florduh, nothing really ticks all the boxes. The Zion would be the closest but it's voltage regulated, not temperature controlled. Note that it doesn't make much of a difference with all these glass stem on-demand vapes, the temperature rises gently over time and you can extract everything without touching the power setting once.
 
florduh

florduh

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Yeah I guess I should've said "not mass produced" over made in the USA. The tubo does look interesting and I didn't realize it ticked the necessary boxes.

The other consideration is "ease of use". Not for me necessarily, but so I can hand it off to friends without having to put together a PowerPoint deck first.

I also really like 18650 batteries as I already have a ton from nicotine vaping. When companies like Ghost utilize proprietary battery packs, it just seems like a money grab.

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The mod inside the Tubo is designed and made in China and the rest of the device made in Switzerland, but it ticks all the other boxes. :p

But you made a point @florduh, nothing really ticks all the boxes. The Zion would be the closest but it's voltage regulated, not temperature controlled. Note that it doesn't make much of a difference with all these glass stem on-demand vapes, the temperature rises gently over time and you can extract everything without touching the power setting once.
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mucsusn

mucsusn

60 going on 20
florduh said:
Yeah I guess I should've said "not mass produced" over made in the USA. The tubo does look interesting and I didn't realize it ticked the necessary boxes.

The other consideration is "ease of use". Not for me necessarily, but so I can hand it off to friends without having to put together a PowerPoint deck first.

I also really like 18650 batteries as I already have a ton from nicotine vaping. When companies like Ghost utilize proprietary battery packs, it just seems like a money grab.
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To be fair, proprietary battery packs are much safer than individual Li-ions in the hands of the careless. That being said, manufacturers do stick you for replacement packs.
 
Baron23

Baron23

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KeroZen said:
as we have the tremendous chance to have quite a few of them participating in our community (and producing killer products) rather than some hype company with the pockets full of money.
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So...what is the basis of basically calling them money changers in Solomon's temple compared to our somehow more ethical domestic companies (vice them being a UK company)?
 
florduh

florduh

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mucsusn said:
To be fair, proprietary battery packs are much safer than individual Li-ions in the hands of the careless. That being said, manufacturers do stick you for replacement packs.
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That makes a lot of sense. And it sort of shows the difference between a "community" vaporizer, where the maker trusts the end user not to be a complete fucktard, versus a more mass market company that can't take that risk. From a liability perspective I can see companies not wanting potential litigants handling unprotected 18650s.

Baron23 said:
So...what is the basis of basically calling them money changers in Solomon's temple compared to our somehow more ethical domestic companies (vice them being a UK company)?
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Because everyone knows America produces the most honest and trustworthy business people...
 
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needalift

needalift

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duff said:
That is one seriously ugly and cheap looking vape.

I will of course lower my standards if it is a beast.
:)
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I just looked at this thread for the first time and these are my thoughts exactly . It reminds me at first glance of something I would see on eBay exclusively with a month long estimated shipping from Hong Kong . I am definitely not a fan of the aesthetics . Plus it looks a little too big to feel comfortable in a pocket . Kinda looks like you are sticking a child's toy rocket / space ship in your mouth . But as it's been said many times before , looks aren't everything . I'm interested to hear some more reviews on how this thing performs .
 
florduh

florduh

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needalift said:
I just looked at this thread for the first time and these are my thoughts exactly . It reminds me at first glance of something I would see on eBay exclusively with a month long estimated shipping from Hong Kong . I am definitely not a fan of the aesthetics . Plus it looks a little too big to feel comfortable in a pocket . Kinda looks like you are sticking a child's toy rocket / space ship in your mouth . But as it's been said many times before , looks aren't everything . I'm interested to hear some more reviews on how this thing performs .
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I largely agree on the aesthetics, but no one consider the Mighty to be a beauty either.
 
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