FlowerMate Vapormax V/V5.0/V5.0S/V5 Pro
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archangelz001
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@zorn there was a lot of discussion about this back around page 70 (plus or minus 10)
OF
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As has been said, we've discussed this at length. There are also isolated posts by guys trying. It seems to vary with models, many have to be disassembled and the oven removed to get access to the bottom to push it up......good way to wreck your unit?
I view mine a permanent.
FWIW I think it's sort of a 'fools errand' (no offense meant by the term). Restriction there is small compared to elsewhere, not much to be gained. And 'opening it for more clouds' doesn't work here or similar vapes. The maker surely tried different schemes and decided on restriction so cloud chasers wouldn't overrun the heater. Think about it, if it could make more vapor by so simple a change why didn't the maker do it????
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zorn
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Thanks, i have found it!
I read ths thread once a few weeks ago, i knew there was some discussion about it, but looking it up only on the smartphone was quite annoying, i gave up after 30 pages after my eyes started to cry. :'-(
@OF:
Well, sure you can ask why the makers did not do it, but this question you could ask for everything you could improve on this vape ("why did not they made an solution for the noisy MP falling around in the Airpath/chamber?" etc)
I really can imagine the makers of those units could change the chamber screen on newer models.
And i am not asking for bigger clouds or whatever: it is just annoying when the unit was cleaned a few hits before, and you are on the run, or on a concert or party, vaping in a noce group of people and after some vaping this screen clogs. I dont have q-tips and isopropanol with me all the time, so an better airflow would be surely an solution for this.
And excuse me for typos or doubleposts, or even if i ask something which was in the thread before... As i said, on the smartphone it is not easy to read through
Thanks again, guys!
I read ths thread once a few weeks ago, i knew there was some discussion about it, but looking it up only on the smartphone was quite annoying, i gave up after 30 pages after my eyes started to cry. :'-(
@OF:
Well, sure you can ask why the makers did not do it, but this question you could ask for everything you could improve on this vape ("why did not they made an solution for the noisy MP falling around in the Airpath/chamber?" etc)
I really can imagine the makers of those units could change the chamber screen on newer models.
And i am not asking for bigger clouds or whatever: it is just annoying when the unit was cleaned a few hits before, and you are on the run, or on a concert or party, vaping in a noce group of people and after some vaping this screen clogs. I dont have q-tips and isopropanol with me all the time, so an better airflow would be surely an solution for this.
And excuse me for typos or doubleposts, or even if i ask something which was in the thread before... As i said, on the smartphone it is not easy to read through
Thanks again, guys!
OF
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First off, thanks for clarifying your problem. I hope you see how one might assume your plan was for more airflow (the usual issue) not cleaning (not really an issue normally)?
So if the question is 'why do they make it so hard to clean the lower screen' I think the answer is because it shouldn't need cleaning. Only cool air flows through it (not in the vapor path, only air path). I have many grams through mine and the bottom screen is spotless still. It's surely not fouling after being "cleaned a few hits before". I suspect your herb is poorly cured (excess water)? That's the usual source of abnormal fouling.
You raise a good point, this general design is over a year old, there are what 4 or 5 version under this maker and very similar designs seem to be 'popping up' all over, none of which seems to be rushing to change the design. My assumption (I know.....) is that this is not a common problem? For sure with my personal units (mini and full size V5.0S) and those of friends and posts on this thread I don't see fouling as a problem using way more than a bowl or two of properly cured, ground herb. All my fouling happens higher up where the vapor is.
I'd look elsewhere for solutions, but it's your vape and your call.
If you're bent on larger holes you can always follow the instructions earlier on or even carefully ream the holes over the ceramic vents out with a needle?
Good luck with it, but IMO cleaning is not the solution to fouling that screen. It should not be happening, best to stop it from doing so.
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zorn
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Yeah, i use to use Weed from high grade to really trashy rest-weed, leafes, and so on. If weed is grinded too fine, it also fills the tiny holes in the metal plate and if it gets hot, it goes to be sticky as hell and there you have your blockade.
Sure, the MP clogs faster causee there is the vapor, but after some time also the Screen on the bottom starts to give up.
What i have done so far:
I have drilled the holes in the MP a bit larger, and replaced the original screen-plate in the MP with a steel-screen.
And i also replaced the screenplate on the bottom with 2 steel screens...
The MP is also clogged really fast when weed is grinded too fine, so i made an "ball" out of an steel screen wich i can easily put on top of the weed before i put the MP on.
The round form of the ball makes is easier to remove it, i dont have to pod around with a needle or whatever. Just turn it upside down and the screen-ball rolls out.
To be honest, the original metal plates with the fine holes are nice to look, but they are horribe screens in my opinion.
Tip for removing the original screen in the MINI:
Take a needle with a long nose plier, and turn the mini upside down so you see in the airpath. you will see the 5 or 6 holes in the ceramic element, and some of those holes are accesible (use a light source to shine up in the oven, so you will see it better). Just push out the Screen with the needle til you can reach it with the pliers from the oven side.
Little to no force is needed this way, so you wont crash your ceramic element.
Sure, the MP clogs faster causee there is the vapor, but after some time also the Screen on the bottom starts to give up.
What i have done so far:
I have drilled the holes in the MP a bit larger, and replaced the original screen-plate in the MP with a steel-screen.
And i also replaced the screenplate on the bottom with 2 steel screens...
The MP is also clogged really fast when weed is grinded too fine, so i made an "ball" out of an steel screen wich i can easily put on top of the weed before i put the MP on.
The round form of the ball makes is easier to remove it, i dont have to pod around with a needle or whatever. Just turn it upside down and the screen-ball rolls out.
To be honest, the original metal plates with the fine holes are nice to look, but they are horribe screens in my opinion.
Tip for removing the original screen in the MINI:
Take a needle with a long nose plier, and turn the mini upside down so you see in the airpath. you will see the 5 or 6 holes in the ceramic element, and some of those holes are accesible (use a light source to shine up in the oven, so you will see it better). Just push out the Screen with the needle til you can reach it with the pliers from the oven side.
Little to no force is needed this way, so you wont crash your ceramic element.
I use my FM daily (multiple times) and it's imperative to clean the bottom screen once in a while! Mine has been so clogged that iso just doesn't cut it. When you go from a clogged bottom screen to unclogged it makes a world of difference.
That being said I'd guess it needs cleaning after every ounce or 2, not daily.
That being said I'd guess it needs cleaning after every ounce or 2, not daily.
danthepan124
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You can use Arizer solo screens, puffitup sells 50 for them pretty cheap, they're pretty expendable sooooo go nuts 
danthepan124
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v5.0s is set temps, while Pro you have a huge range or degrees to choose
danthepan124
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not sure, sorry, I dont own the unit, I own the v5.0s and though the vapor isnt as much, it still packs a punch
Episode666
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I happen to own both (well, the mini version of the v5.0s at least)!
The Flowermate packs a punch, especially the mini if you consider its portability and tiny size. You can get very nice clouds if you have good material in it. You have to tweak the mouthpiece grill so it doesn't clog, and if the bottom grill clogs, draw gets restricted a lot.
The Air is in another class altogether. I'd say clouds are twice as big, and require half the effort. It's also a much bigger unit, less discrete, and require a bunch of spare batteries to go along with it, so you must carry it in a large E-Cig case or something like that. It's not as portable, that's why the Mini is our go to unit when we're heading outside.
I don't think it's fair to compare them head to head without considering the autonomy and portability where the Flowermate excels.
sokesleezy
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I lost the mouthpiece screen as well as the housing for the V5.0s many months ago. I quite like using it this way. Slow pulls on purple give me all that I can handle. I imagine using it like this increases the amount of vapor you'd inhale, but I have nothing to compare it to.
So my mini from http://koncare.en.alibaba.com/ arrived via DHL a couple days ago, and it seems to be legit. For the $78 I paid for the vape and shipping, I am extremely happy with it. Got here in less than 2 weeks (and would have probably been less than 1 if customs didn't hold it for so long) and all communications I had with the seller were great.
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As for the vape itself, given its size, I am very impressed with its performance. After a few burn offs, I tried it out, the taste was great, and I got decent clouds even on the blue (lowest) temp setting.
The only thing that bothers me is that the mouthpiece rattles around freely when it is inside the storage compartment. It makes me very nervous that it will chip or break. Has anyone here come up with any ingenious solutions to solve this problem? If so please share!
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As for the vape itself, given its size, I am very impressed with its performance. After a few burn offs, I tried it out, the taste was great, and I got decent clouds even on the blue (lowest) temp setting.
The only thing that bothers me is that the mouthpiece rattles around freely when it is inside the storage compartment. It makes me very nervous that it will chip or break. Has anyone here come up with any ingenious solutions to solve this problem? If so please share!
OF
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I slip a 3/4 inch long piece of 3/8 ID (1/2 OD) Silicone tube over it, solid can be then. I put the stem in (metal down) then slip the tube on flush with the glass (push it with my thumb). Springback pushes the tube back 'just past proud' and all is Jake.
If the goal is to just protect the glass put it in 'upside down' that is glass first. The bottom of the hole (bottom of the over) is Silicone rubber resting against it the rattle is the only problem. Sometimes even the covers rattle some.
OF
sokesleezy
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Anyone had resin of different forms with this vape? Sometimes very sappy other times its not. Is this caused by the quality of herb and/or the temperature setting used?
archangelz001
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Happy with the V5.0
Happier with the V5.0S MINI
Happiest with the V5Pro
Happier with the V5.0S MINI
Happiest with the V5Pro
Episode666
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I don't own a mighty, but my Flowermate is a great secondary to my Air and Rise, and would work well as a main unit also, if you don't mind the maintenance. Yesterday I got tired of the botton screen and pushed it from the bottom with a needle like another user suggested earlier in this thread. I replaced it with a curved Air/Solo screen from eBay.
method_man
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how does the flowermate 5 mini stack up against other small vapes? specifically the mflb. im looking for something decent to carry around in pants pockets.
love the size of the mflb but dislike the learning curve + external battery. on demand vape is great though!
love the solo/air but too big to carry in pockets casually. i dont have the lung capacity that i used to so the draw resistance is a bother sometimes.
wanted to get a pax 2 but too expensive imo. looking at the pax 1 but it seems too big.
i dont really wanna carry anything much bigger than the mflb and the flowermate 5 mini seems to be around the same size. not too much bigger to make much of a difference. also i like how you can conveniently put the stem inside the unit while not in use.
anything i should know before considering this vape? unless i missed something, is there anything smaller/better overall? if i purchase it, it will be a strictly on the go vape. nothing wrong with the mflb but i tried a couple of portable vapes and never really found that special vape niche that i want (small and stealthy, ease of use, decent quality).
love the size of the mflb but dislike the learning curve + external battery. on demand vape is great though!
love the solo/air but too big to carry in pockets casually. i dont have the lung capacity that i used to so the draw resistance is a bother sometimes.
wanted to get a pax 2 but too expensive imo. looking at the pax 1 but it seems too big.
i dont really wanna carry anything much bigger than the mflb and the flowermate 5 mini seems to be around the same size. not too much bigger to make much of a difference. also i like how you can conveniently put the stem inside the unit while not in use.
anything i should know before considering this vape? unless i missed something, is there anything smaller/better overall? if i purchase it, it will be a strictly on the go vape. nothing wrong with the mflb but i tried a couple of portable vapes and never really found that special vape niche that i want (small and stealthy, ease of use, decent quality).