FlowerMate Vapormax V/V5.0/V5.0S/V5 Pro
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AlexisSmith67
Member
If you pack your VM in a belt case, there are some with several compartments.
One case I use is a Nitetize which fits the portable smartly, with several separate pockets for bits, and pieces. Brush. & stash. There is a flap, for closure.
What is "Nitetize" - could deff use a case like that!!!
i carefully removed the slider on my flowermate it was snug... I did this by dropping from a counter top, on it's first day in its new home. 
The slider popped right off. Not one thing broken and unit still works perfect, for my application....aroma therapy. My flowermate is very dependable.
I took the slide part and used a nail file. barely used the file... it was only the "paint" that made it too wide. I then took the side and popped it right back into the groove it sets in. It just needed a tiny, tiny, tiny adjustment.
my flowermate built well and extremely dependable. good price point.
The slider popped right off. Not one thing broken and unit still works perfect, for my application....aroma therapy. My flowermate is very dependable.I took the slide part and used a nail file. barely used the file... it was only the "paint" that made it too wide. I then took the side and popped it right back into the groove it sets in. It just needed a tiny, tiny, tiny adjustment.
my flowermate built well and extremely dependable. good price point.
GoSFGiants
New Member
I contacted Arigato_books about the preorder listing, and they said they should receive it in the beginning of November. They also sent me a picture of the manual
EDIT: It looks like it's too big to post
EDIT: It looks like it's too big to post
Wahiker
Well-Known Member
Another idea for a case is a little camera case. I have something like this: https://www.caselogic.com/en-us/us/products/camera/cases/point-and-shoot-camera-case-_-tbc_-_402_-_black
which holds the Vapormax just right, plus there's a little zipper pouch for extra stuff. The pounch isn't big enough for a film cannister (aka stash jar), but it holds most everything else. If you go to a big store, they'll usually have quite a few to choose from.
which holds the Vapormax just right, plus there's a little zipper pouch for extra stuff. The pounch isn't big enough for a film cannister (aka stash jar), but it holds most everything else. If you go to a big store, they'll usually have quite a few to choose from.
AlexisSmith67
Member
PRO TIP FOR THE FLOWERMATE V5.0S
- Leave the mouth piece screwed in, and keep the tamper tool in the bottom compartment for when you want to reload (It fits!)
- Want the device to heat faster? Put your thumb over the top of the mouth piece as to not let any hot air escape.
My personal observations ^^
I absolutely adore this device, beats the hell out of the PAX that was driving me nuts by the end... soooo finicky
Thanks for the camera case idea
- Leave the mouth piece screwed in, and keep the tamper tool in the bottom compartment for when you want to reload (It fits!)
- Want the device to heat faster? Put your thumb over the top of the mouth piece as to not let any hot air escape.
My personal observations ^^
I absolutely adore this device, beats the hell out of the PAX that was driving me nuts by the end... soooo finicky
Thanks for the camera case idea
max
Out to lunch
Glad you got it fixed. With this slider design, an accident that slightly alters the housing, one way or the other, can result in a slider that doesn't slide, or slides clear off the vape.
With a little bending, the brush will fit as well, and IMO is much more useful. The mp screen requires frequent cleaning, and brushing it off after a bowl is spent helps a lot.
stark1
Lonesome Planet
↑ "Leave the mouth piece screwed in, and keep the tamper tool in the bottom compartment for when you want to reload (It fits!)"
Have been using the MP storage well to keep a stash on the go myself; with a bit less, you could carry both kind & tool in storage.
"Attendant, please, where's my baggage?"
Have been using the MP storage well to keep a stash on the go myself; with a bit less, you could carry both kind & tool in storage.
"Attendant, please, where's my baggage?"
max
Out to lunch
What was the temp setting you last used? If it was the highest setting that may be why it flashed red instead of violet or blue.
cityslang
A taste on the tongue
max
Out to lunch
Impressive battery performance. And I was told the fixed temp V will last about twice as long, since they both use the same battery management.
virtualpurple
Well-Known Member
That sounds about right. I think think it too depends on what setting you're using on the variable temp model. At the lower setting I imagine the battery life is pretty comparable.
One thing I really don't care for between the two models is that the variable temp model has a much faster auto shut-off timer. I find that to be quite a hassle.
One thing I really don't care for between the two models is that the variable temp model has a much faster auto shut-off timer. I find that to be quite a hassle.
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
Ok it's the week-end I took some time to answer all the past posts. But first a little update from Smiss to clear things up: "The V5 fixed temperature is 205-210°C" and I suggested them new settings for the 3 temp version (as per the quick poll in this thread) to which they said they would adjust them if it is possible.
I think we should start another thread to discuss the FM8, as it is really a different product. Apparently it's not ready yet, we'll have to wait a little bit...
Onto the catching up now!
It's not that bad because it extracts bloody fast and has a "punch in your face" aspect that appeals to joint smokers much more than delicate low temperature vapor. In a sense the fixed temp version is really good to convert someone progressively to vaporization. The person will get really dense hits (but ok the session is quite short) and will also get the high temp sedative effects.
Many of my smoking friends enjoyed the V5-fixed more than my Ascent and their initial reaction was "ha you see, with this one there is something!" Only later on will they be able to enjoy the incredible taste of low temp sesssions... but they need to quit that fixation on visible exhale and it's hard for some!
That being said, starting that high is inefficient in the sense that the hits are so dense that you end up exhaling most of the load, and well, it's wasted! Also the load is cashed in no time, it can give the impression you're not getting enough for your money....
I think you are refering to that foul Polymide yellow tape taste. Smiss said they would do their best to improve that aspect. But I can tell you that you should insist and do a lot more empty runs while *blowing* inside the mouthpiece, as to force as much hot air over that material as possible. I didn't count but I did a lot with mine before it came down to acceptable levels, and yet it was still faintly there (it completely disappeared since, I can assure you)
The key is really air flow. When I was not blowing, I put the device in a room that had a lot of forced ventilation (fans or extractors would do), with the bowl set to max temp. I must have emptied at least two full charges this way.
They said they would, but it takes time and money to assign a person for the job. I'm not sure that the previous users that came claiming to be from the company were really from Smiss, could have been resellers. At least I gave Smiss the instruction and who to contact, now the ball is in their camp.
Again from Smiss, I was told that the G3 is officially on hold for now, after the horrific reviews it had in its FC thread. They do listen to our feedback and the G3 was not ready for prime-time. There were also suspicions that it could have been stopped after Pharmacor took offense, but that's speculation only...
Having both and with the above clarification about the fixed temperature setting, I don't think it's true. Actually it's the inverse, if you use the V5-3temps (ahem, it was easier to call it the 5S, even if inaccurate...) on blue then the batteries last even longer.
They sure do, and if they don't read here directly, I make sure to forward our remarks on a regular basis.
Right I agree with that, with the variable on red or with the fixed on "between purple and red" heh, extraction is too fast and efficiency suffers.
Yes but it's really not that bad either. I don't know why @Egzoset made a fixation on it (because he's the most anal of us all?
) but I think most of the outside air comes from the exterior directly through the venting holes and there are so many of them that only a tiny fraction can be drawn from the internals. Pressure is not building up.
In the Ascent on the other hand, we discovered that the air-path is much tighter and that indeed it allows a considerable amount of air to be drawn from the electronics and batteries compartment. The various fixes proposed attest to that and visibly improve the vapor/air ratio (ie denser vapor) But there again, it doesn't really bother most people...
The worst is when it auto shuts-off at the end of your session, and you put it aside because the bowl is cashed... only to discover later that you forgot to turn it off... the next time you open the bowl and see that bloody light still on! I once completely drained my battery this way and was met with the flashing red light as soon as I tried to restart the heater...
I found that by storing the mouthpiece the other way down (turn it around) solves or at least eases the problem. But as with everything made of glass it's hard to have very small tolerances. It is less a problem with the silicone mouthpiece as it flexes.
In the V5 the bowl is ceramic. In the V8 we don't know yet.
As I tried to express in my previous post, you need to tamp the load. Make a compact puck out of it, you'll get much less flying particules and the vapor will be denser.
Don't pack, compact! See above!
As I said I'm of the puck school and never had to use any glass flowers in my Ascent nor have I felt the need to have the heat distributed. The ABV is uniform, the heater has plenty of power. Just compact the load and make a flat puck!
No this is not true with Lithium batteries, they hate being fully discharged! A rule of thumb is to never deplete them more than 80% of their capacity, in order to increase their life. In all cases, whether you discharged it fully or not, it's imperative to charge them up as soon as possible and never ever let them sit fully discharged for a long time. If you can't afford a full charge immediatly because you are short of time, do a quick charge for 10-20 minutes at least to top them up, and complete the charge later on.
I think we should start another thread to discuss the FM8, as it is really a different product. Apparently it's not ready yet, we'll have to wait a little bit...
Onto the catching up now!
It's not that bad because it extracts bloody fast and has a "punch in your face" aspect that appeals to joint smokers much more than delicate low temperature vapor. In a sense the fixed temp version is really good to convert someone progressively to vaporization. The person will get really dense hits (but ok the session is quite short) and will also get the high temp sedative effects.
Many of my smoking friends enjoyed the V5-fixed more than my Ascent and their initial reaction was "ha you see, with this one there is something!" Only later on will they be able to enjoy the incredible taste of low temp sesssions... but they need to quit that fixation on visible exhale and it's hard for some!
That being said, starting that high is inefficient in the sense that the hits are so dense that you end up exhaling most of the load, and well, it's wasted! Also the load is cashed in no time, it can give the impression you're not getting enough for your money....
I think you are refering to that foul Polymide yellow tape taste. Smiss said they would do their best to improve that aspect. But I can tell you that you should insist and do a lot more empty runs while *blowing* inside the mouthpiece, as to force as much hot air over that material as possible. I didn't count but I did a lot with mine before it came down to acceptable levels, and yet it was still faintly there (it completely disappeared since, I can assure you)
The key is really air flow. When I was not blowing, I put the device in a room that had a lot of forced ventilation (fans or extractors would do), with the bowl set to max temp. I must have emptied at least two full charges this way.
They said they would, but it takes time and money to assign a person for the job. I'm not sure that the previous users that came claiming to be from the company were really from Smiss, could have been resellers. At least I gave Smiss the instruction and who to contact, now the ball is in their camp.
Again from Smiss, I was told that the G3 is officially on hold for now, after the horrific reviews it had in its FC thread. They do listen to our feedback and the G3 was not ready for prime-time. There were also suspicions that it could have been stopped after Pharmacor took offense, but that's speculation only...
Having both and with the above clarification about the fixed temperature setting, I don't think it's true. Actually it's the inverse, if you use the V5-3temps (ahem, it was easier to call it the 5S, even if inaccurate...) on blue then the batteries last even longer.
They sure do, and if they don't read here directly, I make sure to forward our remarks on a regular basis.
Right I agree with that, with the variable on red or with the fixed on "between purple and red" heh, extraction is too fast and efficiency suffers.
Yes but it's really not that bad either. I don't know why @Egzoset made a fixation on it (because he's the most anal of us all?
) but I think most of the outside air comes from the exterior directly through the venting holes and there are so many of them that only a tiny fraction can be drawn from the internals. Pressure is not building up.In the Ascent on the other hand, we discovered that the air-path is much tighter and that indeed it allows a considerable amount of air to be drawn from the electronics and batteries compartment. The various fixes proposed attest to that and visibly improve the vapor/air ratio (ie denser vapor) But there again, it doesn't really bother most people...
The worst is when it auto shuts-off at the end of your session, and you put it aside because the bowl is cashed... only to discover later that you forgot to turn it off... the next time you open the bowl and see that bloody light still on! I once completely drained my battery this way and was met with the flashing red light as soon as I tried to restart the heater...
I found that by storing the mouthpiece the other way down (turn it around) solves or at least eases the problem. But as with everything made of glass it's hard to have very small tolerances. It is less a problem with the silicone mouthpiece as it flexes.
In the V5 the bowl is ceramic. In the V8 we don't know yet.
As I tried to express in my previous post, you need to tamp the load. Make a compact puck out of it, you'll get much less flying particules and the vapor will be denser.
Don't pack, compact! See above!
As I said I'm of the puck school and never had to use any glass flowers in my Ascent nor have I felt the need to have the heat distributed. The ABV is uniform, the heater has plenty of power. Just compact the load and make a flat puck!
No this is not true with Lithium batteries, they hate being fully discharged! A rule of thumb is to never deplete them more than 80% of their capacity, in order to increase their life. In all cases, whether you discharged it fully or not, it's imperative to charge them up as soon as possible and never ever let them sit fully discharged for a long time. If you can't afford a full charge immediatly because you are short of time, do a quick charge for 10-20 minutes at least to top them up, and complete the charge later on.
Wahiker
Well-Known Member
KeroZen wrote: "No this is not true with Lithium batteries, they hate being fully discharged...
Thanks for clarifying this. After reading your post, I did some reading and it appears you nicely summarized most of what I read. Apparently one of the worst things you can do is to put a fully charged unit in a place (like the dashboard of a car) where they heat up way past 90 degrees. I also know that it's best to to not charge Li-Ion batteries 100%. Most smart chargers deal with this by monitoring voltage pressure and/or charging currents (the best ones monitor both) and then shut off before reaching 100% (so for instance, when your phone says it's 100% charged, it's probably closer to 95%). Although I like Smiss, I doubt their charger is very "smart", so it's probably best to unplug it from the charger before it quite reaches the full charge status.
Thanks for clarifying this. After reading your post, I did some reading and it appears you nicely summarized most of what I read. Apparently one of the worst things you can do is to put a fully charged unit in a place (like the dashboard of a car) where they heat up way past 90 degrees. I also know that it's best to to not charge Li-Ion batteries 100%. Most smart chargers deal with this by monitoring voltage pressure and/or charging currents (the best ones monitor both) and then shut off before reaching 100% (so for instance, when your phone says it's 100% charged, it's probably closer to 95%). Although I like Smiss, I doubt their charger is very "smart", so it's probably best to unplug it from the charger before it quite reaches the full charge status.
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
It's nearly impossible to know what parameters they selected (we just know it's limited to 1A) but it's safe to assume most charging ICs are "smart" these days, it's tried an proved technology. By the way, the charging logic is implemented by the IC inside the FM and not by the charger (the latter being just a power source which you can swap with any equivalent, like an external power pack or the Ascent charger for instance, you just need to match voltage and polarity)
But as always it's just a matter of trade-offs. They can select parameters that will maximize apparent battery capacity (by allowing to charge up to 100% and sometimes even slightly above, and discharging below 20% left) at the cost of longevity, or they can maximize battery life (by being "smart" like you said) but then users will say they don't get all the mAh's they paid for!
One thing is sure, the FM is currently amongst the best, if not the best, when it comes to batteries capacity. Well, unless you swap your Solo batteries with the high performance offer found on this forum, but that's not stock.
Interestingly doubling the battery capacity in a vaporizer does not necessarily translate to doubling the total vaping time per charge. As once again, there is a trade-off possibility here: you could keep the same maximum heater power and double the run time, or you could use the opportunity to increase the watts delivered by the heater, making the device stronger hitting and resistant to users drawing very hard and long (like water tools enthusiasts)
But as always it's just a matter of trade-offs. They can select parameters that will maximize apparent battery capacity (by allowing to charge up to 100% and sometimes even slightly above, and discharging below 20% left) at the cost of longevity, or they can maximize battery life (by being "smart" like you said) but then users will say they don't get all the mAh's they paid for!
One thing is sure, the FM is currently amongst the best, if not the best, when it comes to batteries capacity. Well, unless you swap your Solo batteries with the high performance offer found on this forum, but that's not stock.
Interestingly doubling the battery capacity in a vaporizer does not necessarily translate to doubling the total vaping time per charge. As once again, there is a trade-off possibility here: you could keep the same maximum heater power and double the run time, or you could use the opportunity to increase the watts delivered by the heater, making the device stronger hitting and resistant to users drawing very hard and long (like water tools enthusiasts)
slipiddydipdip
New Member
Great thread. Was almost decided on purchasing the Flowermate (fixed temp version, local seller), but many people have commented saying the Arizer Solo is superior. My deluxe vape daddy broke and I'm convinced its cursed so I'm looking for a new vape to purchase this weekend.....Go for the Solo, eh?
kahlilhc
Vaped Crusader/Serial Vapist
Welcome to FC slipiddydipdip
It depends if your looking for portability or quality.....
I've tried the FM fixed temp, its nice and stealth and gives good tasting respectable hits, and great battery life, not sure how it would last being passed around though, more of a personal vape IMO.....NOW the solo on the other hand, definitely portable (took mine everywhere when I was starting out), and can be made even more in-use stealthy than the FM (stealth adapter+cup), I'd say even better battery life, bigger temp range, flavor low temps, lung-busting cloud high temps, built like a tank(with wood stem) and can hold its own in a group.....but dont take my word for it, 1220 pages don't lie
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stark1
Lonesome Planet
( Hint. Check out Solo, with Massdrop. Good for next 6 (5,4,3,2,1)daze ( days ) )
Flowermate V (NOT 5s), also, for a mere $70+.
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max
Out to lunch
The FM is a pocket portable. I can put it in my shirt pocket and hit it without taking it out. Can't do that with the Solo. So it all depends on how you want to use it. If you don't need stealth the Solo is hard to beat for the money.
ClemsonVaper
New Member
I personally would. I like my ABV very dark and I tend not to make edibles with it so I use the red setting frequently. If you enjoy the blue setting then no I would not advise the upgrade. All you would be getting is a shorter battery life.
I have a question though. I'm not sure if I should post it here or somewhere else, but here it is anyway. I have the three temp flowermate. I use the ceramic honeycomb screens, one at the bottom, then pack down the herb tight, and another ceramic screen on top. I think I saw the method suggested on here. After 10 or so sessions I took of the mouthpiece to clean it and it was covered in a sticky waxy residue. Is this normal? The waxy substance was blocking most of the air holes. I had taken out the ceramic screen that was originally in place. I had been adding a nicotine free e-juice on top of my herb to add flavor and produce more vapor clouds. Would that have anything to do with the waxy residue?
I have a question though. I'm not sure if I should post it here or somewhere else, but here it is anyway. I have the three temp flowermate. I use the ceramic honeycomb screens, one at the bottom, then pack down the herb tight, and another ceramic screen on top. I think I saw the method suggested on here. After 10 or so sessions I took of the mouthpiece to clean it and it was covered in a sticky waxy residue. Is this normal? The waxy substance was blocking most of the air holes. I had taken out the ceramic screen that was originally in place. I had been adding a nicotine free e-juice on top of my herb to add flavor and produce more vapor clouds. Would that have anything to do with the waxy residue?