First vaporizer ever. Should I pick up a Dynavap M7 XL or a Dani Fusion 2.0?

[bobby]

I recently started smoking, been rolling joints and packing bowls up until now. Reddit has really sold me on trying out dry-herb-vaping, but I'm unsure what device will best fit my wants.

- I like going through the motions of rolling my joint, taking the 30 minutes outside to smoke it, be by myself for a little.
- I'm not looking for an instant fix at the moment, I smoke maybe ~3 nights of the week.
- I'll typically just smoke between 0.6g-1g of bud when I do smoke, from a joint or a bowl.
- I have no physical or dexterity issues.
- I believe in you get what you pay for. I rather buy something great and not have to upgrade later on.

I don't think a battery-powered vape will match my wants the best. So from some research, I've stuck debating between Dynavap M7 XL and the Dani Fusion 2.0. Any thoughts or recommendations?

 

[fede98]

if you only vape at home you might think about buying a ball vape to use on a bong I think it's the best solution.
by ball vape I mean desktop devices composed of an electronic pid for temperature control, a resistor connected to a housing which is generally made of titanium or other similar materials with rubies or other types of spheres inside through which the air passes which, when heated, vaporizes the weed in this way and with these materials you certainly have a power and flavor that many other devices do not have... they allow you to choose to take bigger shots by extracting more quickly (even in 1 or 2 shots at high temperatures) but you can also enjoy a slow session starting from low temperatures get it if you are sure you want to continue using it, it will remain as a definitive device you won't need anything else at home... while if your aim is to get a vape to try if you like them and maybe later buy something better, the Dynavap are still excellent for what they cost and will certainly satisfy you to start with

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Hey Bobby, welcome on FC !

I think you'll learn soon enough that smoking is a waste of material (beside other drawbacks) and that the 1g you put in a joint could last you 5 to 10 bowls/sessions depending on the device you use.

Even though the ballvape hype is at its peak these times, I don't think it will suit you...

I don't own any of the vape you mentioned (dynavap and Dani fusion), but I think you narrowed down your desire pretty well. What you want is the ritual and peace of mind that comes with it.

From what I understand the dynavap tends to be more session oriented (even though mods exist to make it a one hitter) and the Dani could potentially extract faster and hit harder... but actual users might correct me if I'm wrong.

However, if you're after a strong ritual I also encourage you to consider the vapman (and its new iteration : the vapman click). Perfect for outside use, mind-setting ritual and strong signature. (The signature is how a device alter / enhance the taste and effects of your material.)

If you haven't, you might want to look at the Thermal Accumulator and its derivates (tempest, stunner, verdavap...) that are dynavap shaped ball vapes. They can either mimic a joint session or a bong rip depending on how you use them and what thermal matrix material you use.

One last thing :

I rather buy something great and not have to upgrade later on.

There's a lot of great vapes out there and hanging with us you take the risk of buying a lot of them in the end...

 

[coolbreeze]

I recently started smoking, been rolling joints and packing bowls up until now. Reddit has really sold me on trying out dry-herb-vaping, but I'm unsure what device will best fit my wants.

- I like going through the motions of rolling my joint, taking the 30 minutes outside to smoke it, be by myself for a little.
- I'm not looking for an instant fix at the moment, I smoke maybe ~3 nights of the week.
- I'll typically just smoke between 0.6g-1g of bud when I do smoke, from a joint or a bowl.
- I have no physical or dexterity issues.
- I believe in you get what you pay for. I rather buy something great and not have to upgrade later on.

I don't think a battery-powered vape will match my wants the best. So from some research, I've stuck debating between Dynavap M7 XL and the Dani Fusion 2.0. Any thoughts or recommendations?

Both are excellent. The M7XL is probably a little more flexible and all-purpose. It can do big, foggy hits or flavor sips. It gives several hits per heat-up, so it's reasonably joint-like. The Dani, for me, is more a one-heat-and-done vape, it's very powerful and the flavor and effects are as fantastic as any of these type vapes. It also makes several hits per heat, but I feel it's less able to dial back, though. I would say both if you want. The M7 for routine use, the Dani for a kick in the head. Other considerations: the M7 will can be stashed hot (in a Futo stash) and cools quickly; the Dani takes a bit longer to cool so it's not stashable in the same way. The M7 heats with a pocket torch, the Dani likes something more powerful.

I second the Vapman Click and the Thermal Accumulators. Both are top choices and amazing vapes.

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

I would say both if you want. The M7 for routine use, the Dani for a kick in the head. Other considerations: the M7 will can be stashed hot (in a Futo stash) and cools quickly; the Dani takes a bit longer to cool so it's not stashable in the same way. The M7 heats with a pocket torch, the Dani likes something more powerful.

This is a great response. But I'd add that the Dani Fusion can handle smaller loads pretty well, down to 0.05g and can run nicely using a standard 2 or 3 flame pocket torch. The heat retention of the cap makes it hard to stash away in a hurry when out and about which is why, although I prefer the Fusion, it's the Dynavap or Vapman that I take on the road.

 

[Texus]

Yeah, as much as I like ball vapes, those are major heavy hitters.

I agree with other folks on the Vapman Click. Just a beautiful device and lovely ritual.

For a battery powered experience, the XMax v3 Pro is tough to beat around the $100 price point. Or the slightly nicer Roffu by same manufacturer can sometimes be found for sale around the same price.

And and at a higher price point still, and a great complement to the vapman or one-hitter style vapes, Angus Enhanced is great at $200. A session vape so great to pass around with others. Swappable batteries (unlike the Mighty for example). And the superb flavor of halogen heaters.

Good luck on your journey in this fun vape world.

 

[eyevape]

I've stuck debating between Dynavap M7 XL and the Dani Fusion 2.0. Any thoughts or recommendations?

Dynavaps are overpriced imo. The Dani is superior to Dyna, but I recommend checking the Vestratto Anvil instead. Built like a tank and hits you like one for sure. Although I have some excellent devices around, the Anvil is still one of my daily drivers.

 

[fede98]

Dynavaps are overpriced imo. The Dani is superior to Dyna, but I recommend checking the Vestratto Anvil instead. Built like a tank and hits you like one for sure. Although I have some excellent devices around, the Anvil is still one of my daily drivers.

the anvil vestratto is more overpriced than the dynavap in my opinion... but I agree it's an excellent vape I often use it especially with Hash

 

[bobby]

Just picked up the Dani Fusion 2.0 y'all, thank you! Looking forward to trying vaping out.

 

[fede98]

Just picked up the Dani Fusion 2.0 y'all, thank you! Looking forward to trying vaping out.

well I'm sure you like it, even if you may not appreciate the first period because there is a learning curve on how to heat correctly and recognize the right color of the abv
and since it's your first vape, remember to do a burn off, heat it empty 3 times should be enough, then you can use it normally, otherwise wash it well first (usually isopropyl alcohol is used)

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

Just picked up the Dani Fusion 2.0 y'all, thank you! Looking forward to trying vaping out.

Don't forget that the Fusion can work in a 14mm bong without a water piece adapter (WPA). You'll be pleasantly surprised, with or without water. Merry Christmas. You made a fantastic choice

 

[maremaresing]

Just picked up the Dani Fusion 2.0 y'all, thank you! Looking forward to trying vaping out.

Hands down the right choice, even considering the ecosystem of vapes outside the Dyna or Fusion. The Dyna is a neat device that I still enjoy, but has been outclassed by the Anvil and Dani for years.

The sleeve that comes with the Fusion is great for putting a hot cap into to unscrew/reload, or just to store. As mentioned, it works natively with 14mm bongs, and the tip itself fits nicely into a 10/14 glass adapter with a few extra orings. You absolutely should try it through a piece with or without water. It milks like crazy.

It doesn't need a big torch unlike the Dani or Anvil. I find a pinpoint dual flame on the bottom ring, heated 3 seconds past the click, gets fantastic extraction. Or, for more joint like rips, you can stop heating at the click and enjoy the quick heatup/cooldown all the way through the load. ABV should come out between looking like latte brown to coffee grounds (if you push it hard like me).

since it's your first vape, remember to do a burn off, heat it empty 3 times should be enough, then you can use it normally, otherwise wash it well first (usually isopropyl alcohol is used)

To add/clarify this:
Burn off is good for parts that can't be cleaned, like electronic vapes, but anything that can be cleaned with ISO before first use should be. Don't dunk the cap of the Fusion in ISO. Just wipe off the inside and outside with ISO. This is enough and will keep the heat disk from harm.

The cap rarely needs cleaning and everything else can be dunked/soaked in ISO just fine.

 

[Flotsam]

LOL i do know one thing you will got a LOT different response on here than if you go off on your own and start researching like i did.
In retrospect with what i have learned now i think some of those online reviews make you wonder if they even used some of those vapes that they are recommending!

I think the thing that is not taken into consideration is what people's use case. It seems one of those decision tree charts would be good. For me i knew i wanted Stealth since i was going to be using it out and about while some people will only use at home. Others want to blow giant clouds . Need to consider what you want to vape ; flower or concentrates. Seems like the dedicated solution performs better for each option but a lot of people don't want to spend the extra money for a second device.

There is also a hassle factor, like how much work do you want to put into it? Like dragging out a torch to get rolling. There's probably a bunch of these trade off questions that need to be made and sometimes a beginner doesn't even know which questions to ask.

There's a world of information on here and at least people are civil unlike some of the BS you see on Reddit.

 

[Flotsam]

I guess this is as good a place as any to post my question and I know new threads seem frowned upon.

I am thinking about adding a Dynavap or something similar. a battery-less cannabis device. I know very little of the Dynavap product line and alternatives like this Dani Fusion.

What should my very first purchase be? eg. something like a Dynavap M? Anyone want to give me a run down?

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

What should my very first purchase be? eg. something like a Dynavap M? Anyone want to give me a run down?

How's your tolerance ?

My humble suggestion : the Vaponic.
Costs only 40 bucks, taste is pristine and full, function is on point. Can be heated with a jet lighter or an alcohol burner at home.
Drawbacks : it has a small bowl and is made out of glass.

At this price point it really worth a shot.

 

[hotmeals]

I guess this is as good a place as any to post my question and I know new threads seem frowned upon.

I am thinking about adding a Dynavap or something similar. a battery-less cannabis device. I know very little of the Dynavap product line and alternatives like this Dani Fusion.

What should my very first purchase be? eg. something like a Dynavap M? Anyone want to give me a run down?

I can highly recommend Dynavap's B model as a first torch vape. It's a little less expensive than the M, and the silicone stem is really good. The big triangle shaped airport is probably my favorite out of all Dynavap stems I've tried, and you can adjust the condenser depth similarly to the M7XL and Hyperdyn. I like to partially choke the airflow down if I don't have the condenser adjusted, so the triangle shape makes it super easy to do that consistently. I wanted to love the lightning bolt on the M7 stem, but I find it more difficult to consistently obstruct it the exact amount I want to. With the XL version you can adjust the condenser and probably find a spot where you can ignore the airport. The M7 tip is superior to the B tip IMO, but not by any crazy amount. The B tip is also half capacity if that matters to you (~0.05 vs ~0.1). A lot of people say the Dynavaps have been surpassed by Anvil/Dani/Tornado/Tempest/etc. As an owner of an Anvil, Tornado, P3 ZX, I strongly disagree. They are different vapes that I use for different things. These vapes may be better than Dyna for big, quick extractions, but I'm choosing Dynavap over them every time if I want more of a slow session style bowl. The lower but not too low mass of Dynavaps makes them very easy to intuitively temp step without having to count seconds IMO. To me the flavor is amazing if I take it slow and start off below the click.

My humble suggestion : the Vaponic.

Yup, I was going to mention the 'Ponic also. Might be my favorite vape. There's no temperature indication though, so it may be harder to find the technique that works for you with it, especially for someone who is new to torch vapes. Not a problem if you know you are the type of person to not get discouraged and continuously refine the nuances of your technique.

 

[im not a robot]

i have been meaning to try the vaponic, and eventually i will. i also agree with the endorsement of the dyanvap above. it doesnt have such good taste, but it totally has its place, i use mine regularly.
another excellent value vape is the vaphit x at a similar price point as the vaponic (45$ / 40€). it is fully compatible with any dynavap stem you would like to use, and you could even use it exactly like a dynavap if you were to purchase a spare dynavap-cap (+45$) at some point - effectively giving you the conduction dynavap option on top of the native convection of the vaphit.

dynvap is an excellent entry into torch vaporisers as it is so easy to use and pretty much indestructible, the perfect campfire vape. the vaphit has more of a learning curve, but it is really not too complicated either, and it truly has excellent taste. it is my most used vape by now.

 

[coolbreeze]

I guess this is as good a place as any to post my question and I know new threads seem frowned upon.

I am thinking about adding a Dynavap or something similar. a battery-less cannabis device. I know very little of the Dynavap product line and alternatives like this Dani Fusion.

What should my very first purchase be? eg. something like a Dynavap M? Anyone want to give me a run down?

I'd get the M7XL. It's one of the best ones they've made. It's kind of joint-like as you can get several hits per heating, it just keeps going. It's also forgiving in terms of overheating so the flavor stays decent. The extra length makes it easy to spin and allows you to adjust the amount of air in the vapor mix. I think the Ms have gotten better and better, and this one's the best. Works great in other setups, too--the new neck design sheds much less heat to the stem, making it less likely to crack your wood, etc.

As far as other conduction vapes, there's the Dreamwood Roasty and the TRWW nameless conduction vape. Both are awesome glass vapes that are very much like Dynavaps. The Roasty's glass slides into the wooden body so they're pocketable.

A lot of people say the Dynavaps have been surpassed by Anvil/Dani/Tornado/Tempest/etc. As an owner of an Anvil, Tornado, P3 ZX, I strongly disagree. They are different vapes that I use for different things. These vapes may be better than Dyna for big, quick extractions, but I'm choosing Dynavap over them every time if I want more of a slow session style bowl.

Couldn't agree more! Well said.

 

[Flotsam]

I'd get the M7XL. It's one of the best ones they've made. It's kind of joint-like as you can get several hits per heating, it just keeps going. It's also forgiving in terms of overheating so the flavor stays decent. The extra length makes it easy to spin and allows you to adjust the amount of air in the vapor mix. I think the Ms have gotten better and better, and this one's the best. Works great in other setups, too.

As far as other conduction vapes, there's the Dreamwood Roasty and the TRWW nameless conduction vape. Both are awesome glass vapes that are very much like Dynavaps. The Roasty's glass slides into the wooden body so they're pocketable.

Couldn't agree more! Well said.

Thanks for posting that. That being said your photos are not the "vanilla" product. Aren't those somewhat enhanced? lol

Meanwhile i did do my due diligence on both Vaponic & Vaphit. Vaphit I found this really nice setup with quartz balls for only like $25, but i am concerned about a potential for getting lost in this Fake Tariff thing as it is shipping from China. Unless the rapist-in-chief manages to call this trade war before a monstrous trade sht storm erupts. Maybe these prices are low because they know of this potential which may impact future sales.

anyway here is the listing on ebay for $25 :

Vaphit X Stem with quartz balls | eBay

Vaphit X stem. Vaphit X stem has an "X" carbhole and has a mouthpiece which has 10/14mm M/male joint using for bubbler,also it allow loading quartz balls to cool down the steam. 1 X ss stem. 1 X ruby star for steam going through stem better.

www.ebay.com

 

[im not a robot]

Thanks for posting that. That being said your photos are not the "vanilla" product. Aren't those somewhat enhanced? lol

Meanwhile i did do my due diligence on both Vaponic & Vaphit. Vaphit I found this really nice setup with quartz balls for only like $25, but i am concerned about a potential for getting lost in this Fake Tariff thing as it is shipping from China. Unless the rapist-in-chief manages to call this trade war before a monstrous trade sht storm erupts. Maybe these prices are low because they know of this potential which may impact future sales.

anyway here is the listing on ebay for $25 :

Vaphit X Stem with quartz balls | eBay

Vaphit X stem. Vaphit X stem has an "X" carbhole and has a mouthpiece which has 10/14mm M/male joint using for bubbler,also it allow loading quartz balls to cool down the steam. 1 X ss stem. 1 X ruby star for steam going through stem better.

www.ebay.com

the link you posted is for the stem only. but here is a u.s. retailer for the complete kit: https://vgoodiez.com/products/vaphit-x-by-vaphit?_pos=3&_sid=28264f1e8&_ss=r

edit - personally i am not too fond of the metal stem with the cooling balls. it is also possible to only order the vaphit tip (albeit only with one glass cap, and they can break)) and pair it with whatever dyna-compatible stem you prefer. i think the hula pairs nicely with the vaphit.

https://vgoodiez.com/products/vaphi...-x-bowl-by-vaphit?_pos=8&_sid=28264f1e8&_ss=r

 

[coolbreeze]

Thanks for posting that. That being said your photos are not the "vanilla" product. Aren't those somewhat enhanced? lol

Yeah! That's the old Hydravong stem. It used to be the basis of the Omnivong, which used the Omni system to adjust the vapor richness. You could close it all the way off to use it with concentrated vapor direct through water: the M7 can do the same.

Meanwhile i did do my due diligence on both Vaponic & Vaphit. Vaphit I found this really nice setup with quartz balls for only like $25, but i am concerned about a potential for getting lost in this Fake Tariff thing as it is shipping from China. Unless the rapist-in-chief manages to call this trade war before a monstrous trade sht storm erupts. Maybe these prices are low because they know of this potential which may impact future sales.

anyway here is the listing on ebay for $25 :

Vaphit X Stem with quartz balls | eBay

Vaphit X stem. Vaphit X stem has an "X" carbhole and has a mouthpiece which has 10/14mm M/male joint using for bubbler,also it allow loading quartz balls to cool down the steam. 1 X ss stem. 1 X ruby star for steam going through stem better.

www.ebay.com

@VGOODIEZ has several of the Vaphit pieces and parts:

Vaphit

VGoodiez is a small family owned business and home of the heavies. We also specialize in hand crafted artisan vaporizers and accessories from around the world. Getting the Good stuff was never so EZ! Thanks for supporting small business!

vgoodiez.com

 

[Flotsam]

the link you posted is for the stem only. but here is a u.s. retailer for the complete kit: https://vgoodiez.com/products/vaphit-x-by-vaphit?_pos=3&_sid=28264f1e8&_ss=r

thanks for pointing that out and the Vgoodiez link

Yeah! That's the old Hydravong stem. It used to be the basis of the Omnivong, which used the Omni system to adjust the vapor richness. You could close it all the way off to use it with concentrated vapor direct through water: the M7 can do the same.

@VGOODIEZ has several of the Vaphit pieces and parts:

Vaphit

VGoodiez is a small family owned business and home of the heavies. We also specialize in hand crafted artisan vaporizers and accessories from around the world. Getting the Good stuff was never so EZ! Thanks for supporting small business!

vgoodiez.com

Thank you!

they did have this too for $15

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PQAAAOSwm1Zk2tPs/s-l1600.webp
but i am guessing once you start adding all these together you are at full kit price.

 

[im not a robot]

but i am guessing once you start adding all these together you are at full kit price.

probably, but there are also slight differences between this vaphit & "x" which has slightly thicker glass, and i think also a redesigned tip? not positive... i have not tried them side by side, but in theory the x should retain heat a little longer. not sure it really makes a difference.

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

probably, but there are also slight differences between this vaphit & "x" which has slightly thicker glass, and i think also a redesigned tip? not positive... i have not tried them side by side, but in theory the x should retain heat a little longer. not sure it really makes a difference.

There's not much between them ime, although I tend to use the tip and cap on a WPA anyway.

A neat compromise might be a Dyna with one of TRWWs quartz caps/AliEx knock offs for a hotter more open, more powerful hit.

I still think the Dani Fusion 2 Artemis is the best of all these options though,

 

[Flotsam]

There's not much between them ime, although I tend to use the tip and cap on a WPA anyway.

A neat compromise might be a Dyna with one of TRWWs quartz caps/AliEx knock offs for a hotter more open, more powerful hit.

I still think the Dani Fusion 2 Artemis is the best of all these options though,

Yes i have been playing around for the last week with one of the Knock off Terpcicle. There does seem be a bit of a learning curve on that. But i am having improvements each try i get. The Terpcicle can pack a bunch, but what i really made me want to do was try a Dynavap.

I still think the Dani Fusion 2 Artemis is the best of all these options though,

Why do you like Dani Fusion 2 over the Dynavap? (Artemis is just the stem right?)