Fiberglass found in Angus Enhanced

[encoderboy]

No need to blame XMAX (cn company). It's all about the design and QC.

Pretty sure he said Yllvape, not XMAX. Yllvape would be the ones with the design and QC problems, no..?

 

[seedy53]

my new updated ae works almost perfectly and has no fg. that's all i'm going to say. i trust but verify.

 

[Dougmeister20]

No need to blame XMAX (cn company). It's all about the design and QC.

so I only blame YLLVAPE for this mistake but frankly I’ve had issues with xmax products even. It’s not even a I hate the product I love some of the Chinese products that have come out. It’s more just comes down to trust at this point id much rather spend the money on a company based in a country with consumer laws over China where the government doesn’t care and they know they can get away with doing this to their customers.

Pretty sure he said Yllvape, not XMAX. Yllvape would be the ones with the design and QC problems, no..?

This just YLLVAPE no problems with Xmax just wish the company would’ve helped me out but frankly I barely use it and will just keep as a backup to my solo3

 

[General Disaster]

Get a venty or get a rogue just stay away from anything sold from china they'll screw you because they can get away with it.

It's one thing to vent against a named company, but to diss a whole country full of manufacturers is discrimination, and inaccurate to boot.
There are some excellent Chinese companies producing very high quality machined products at very competitive prices.
All countries have shit companies that exploit their customers.

 

[Dougmeister20]

It's one thing to vent against a named company, but to diss a whole country full of manufacturers is discrimination, and inaccurate to boot.
There are some excellent Chinese companies producing very high quality machined products at very competitive prices.
All countries have shit companies that exploit their customers.

If it’s my money I feel that I can absolutely not buy from any company or country I choose because that’s the freedom of choice. As for others I can’t speak for them but for me personally I won’t be using any Chinese Dry herb vape manufacturers too much risk. I’ve seen it most of them have silicone parts are using batteries or stuff. I mean how can you guarantee these manufacturers products when they aren’t even using the devices. In China you go to prison for consumption nobody is using them there. Again it’s a trend I’ve seen in lot of Chinese vapes they cut corners. I don’t want a vape with cut corners. It’s not all of them but it’s a lot of it bc they know they can get away with it the government will do nothing.

If it’s my money I feel that I can absolutely not buy from any company or country I choose because that’s the freedom of choice. As for others I can’t speak for them but for me personally I won’t be using any Chinese Dry herb vape manufacturers too much risk. I’ve seen it most of them have silicone parts are using batteries or stuff. I mean how can you guarantee these manufacturers products when they aren’t even using the devices. In China you go to prison for consumption nobody is using them there. Again it’s a trend I’ve seen in lot of Chinese vapes they cut corners. I don’t want a vape with cut corners. It’s not all of them but it’s a lot of it bc they know they can get away with it the government will do nothing.

I used to be a big supporter of them btw this is from experience and using multiple vapes talking to Chinese companies I’ve came to that conclusion. But it’s for everybody to figure out on their own.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Ive tried to get mine replaced through yllvape but they completely ghosted me. Definitely a shady company, in saying this they are the reason I will never use Chinese vape products. I dont condone anybody using them. Get a venty or get a rogue just stay away from anything sold from china they'll screw you because they can get away with it.

Rogue is manufactured by Weecke in China too... It is a factory rebrand though so you only deal with Healthy Rips however (not sure but I thought Venty etc was also manufactured abroad not in Germany)

If it’s my money I feel that I can absolutely not buy from any company or country I choose because that’s the freedom of choice. As for others I can’t speak for them but for me personally I won’t be using any Chinese Dry herb vape manufacturers too much risk. I’ve seen it most of them have silicone parts are using batteries or stuff. I mean how can you guarantee these manufacturers products when they aren’t even using the devices. In China you go to prison for consumption nobody is using them there. Again it’s a trend I’ve seen in lot of Chinese vapes they cut corners. I don’t want a vape with cut corners. It’s not all of them but it’s a lot of it bc they know they can get away with it the government will do nothing.

Of course you're free to make whatever choice you like, and share an opinion, just as others are free to share their own views that that opinion is just broadly discriminatory (needlessly or misguidedly perhaps)

 

[Dougmeister20]

It's one thing to vent against a named company, but to diss a whole country full of manufacturers is discrimination, and inaccurate to boot.
There are some excellent Chinese companies producing very high quality machined products at very competitive prices.
All countries have shit companies that exploit their customers.

That’s really my main stance now if people from the company aren’t using the product I don’t want it. Who would want to buy a product not even the company uses? Idk many ppl that would

I used to be a big supporter of them btw this is from experience and using multiple vapes talking to Chinese companies I’ve came to that conclusion. But it’s for everybody to figure out on their own.

 

[Dougmeister20]

Rogue is manufactured by Weecke in China too... It is a factory rebrand though so you only deal with Healthy Rips however (not sure but I thought Venty etc was also manufactured abroad not in Germany)



Of course you're free to make whatever choice you like, and share an opinion, just as others are free to share their own views that that opinion is discriminatory (needlessly or misguidedly perhaps)

I absolutely will discriminate against any company that refuses to test and use their own products

 

[Shit Snacks]

That’s really my main stance now if people from the company aren’t using the product I don’t want it. Who would want to buy a product not even the company uses? Idk many ppl that would

Yes that is not an uncommon stance, regarding Chinese manufacturers and retailers, regardless of the quality... However a rebrand reseller would likely be using the products in their own country at least

 

[Dougmeister20]

I absolutely will discriminate against any company that refuses to test and use their own products

Yes that is not an uncommon stance, regarding Chinese manufacturers and retailers, regardless of the quality... However a rebrand reseller would likely be using the products in their own country at least

Yes that is not an uncommon stance, regarding Chinese manufacturers and retailers, regardless of the quality... However a rebrand reseller would likely be using the products in their own country at least

exactly thank you

 

[seedy53]

I absolutely will discriminate against any company that refuses to test and use their own products

yea testing is light on all vape models including S and B's current owners. Venty was and still software buggy from the release, and arizer solo3 battery charger random failure. it not just china.

 

[Dougmeister20]

yea testing is light on all vape models including S and B's current owners. Venty was and still software buggy from the release, and arizer solo3 battery charger random failure. it not just china.

Yeah, those are big issues too, but how I see it is an electrical issue isn’t something that’s going to affect your health like a material issue does except that one Venti that melted yeah I think companies like X max are fine and I definitely have a place in our industry. It all comes down to . I’m pissed at YLLVAPE for screwing me on a replacement when I was nothing but patient. just made me sketched out ig… Again tho I see your point they aren’t all bad

 

[chillAtGVC]

Yeah, those are big issues too, but how I see it is an electrical issue isn’t something that’s going to affect your health like a material issue does except that one Venti that melted yeah I think companies like X max are fine and I definitely have a place in our industry. It all comes down to . I’m pissed at YLLVAPE for screwing me on a replacement when I was nothing but patient. just made me sketched out ig… Again tho I see your point they aren’t all bad

Did you purchase directly from them? If not, I think the approach is to go back to the retailer that you bought it from. That’s what I did.

 

[Dougmeister20]

Yeah, those are big issues too, but how I see it is an electrical issue isn’t something that’s going to affect your health like a material issue does except that one Venti that melted yeah I think companies like X max are fine and I definitely have a place in our industry. It all comes down to . I’m pissed at YLLVAPE for screwing me on a replacement when I was nothing but patient. just made me sketched out ig…

Did you purchase directly from them? If not, I think the approach is to go back to the retailer that you bought it from. That’s what I did.

No the person I bought it from partially screwed me over. I got 2nd hand they had two of them and didn't know which one it is. Then gave me a hard time about getting a receipt and everything. I explained that to the company and told them Id open it to show the fiber glass do whatever needed. Was patient over months and they ghosted me. I really vouched for the company originally to so at the end of the day it was money saved to them screwing me over. It should be fixed no matter what because there is most likely fiberglass in it there is no justification for using that material and then trying to cover it up. Make it right or stop sales.

 

[chillAtGVC]

No the person I bought it from partially screwed me over. I got 2nd hand they had two of them and didn't know which one it is. Then gave me a hard time about getting a receipt and everything. I explained that to the company and told them Id open it to show the fiber glass do whatever needed. Was patient over months and they ghosted me. I really vouched for the company originally to so at the end of the day it was money saved to them screwing me over.

I think you are being unreasonable. I am not at all surprised that they declined to replace it in that case. You are blaming the wrong party. The person you bought it from TOTALLY screwed you over, not YLL Vape. That is just the nature of buying things on the secondhand market.

I still have my original AE as they were giving replacements without requiring the return of the old one. What is to stop me from giving the old one to a friend and having them claim a second replacement unit etc etc. The replacement units all have a serial number that the original units lacked. I will guess that this is exactly why, but of course I don't know.

It should be fixed no matter what because there is most likely fiberglass in it there is no justification for using that material and then trying to cover it up. Make it right or stop sales.

YLL Vape did stop sales. They do not sell the original with the questionable insulation. Just because you have one does not mean that whoever you bought it from has not already claimed the replacement. Perhaps that is why they did not want to give you a receipt? Think.

 

[seedy53]

No the person I bought it from partially screwed me over. I got 2nd hand they had two of them and didn't know which one it is. Then gave me a hard time about getting a receipt and everything. I explained that to the company and told them Id open it to show the fiber glass do whatever needed. Was patient over months and they ghosted me. I really vouched for the company originally to so at the end of the day it was money saved to them screwing me over. It should be fixed no matter what because there is most likely fiberglass in it there is no justification for using that material and then trying to cover it up. Make it right or stop sales.

doubt they will see it that way. warranty is not transferable beyond the authorized seller. all the og fg AE units could be and are being sold to a 3rd party and then that 3rd party sells the fg ae unit to another 3rd party and he ask yll to replace it and same thing happens, on and on it goes..

EDIT: Chill i see you said the same, great minds think alike. lol

 

[General Disaster]

I choose because that’s the freedom of choice.

Freedom of choice may be your right, but lets not confuse your right to choose with expressing prejudicial and discriminatory attacks.
It's interesting that you'd prefer to double down on that by conflating with your right to choose when that had nothing at all to do with what I said.

That’s really my main stance now if people from the company aren’t using the product I don’t want it. Who would want to buy a product not even the company uses? Idk many ppl that would

And again, what on earth does that have to do with my comment? You went from a reasonable post in that it was specific - it gave readers the opportunity to look up more about it independently and build an opinion of their own. Then you veer into a rant against a whole population. Painting them all in an unexplained deleterious fashion. Even if a few examples were correctly identified as unacceptable, how does that judge thousands others in a fair manner? If you feel that's a reasonable way of judging a whole country, then you'll find few if any countries in the world that don't come under the same banner, including yours.

You could of responded immediately by saying that wasn't what you meant and was just badly worded, but instead you felt strongly enough about the Chinese to try and excuse it as acceptable, and because of your 'right to choose' rather than an empirical explanation.
(In reality, even that supposed right could be questioned but this ain't a philosophy forum.)

I absolutely will discriminate against any company that refuses to test and use their own products

And how do you feel about doing that to whole populations, billions of people, all lumped together as one and dismissed out of hand?

 

[Dougmeister20]

I think you are being unreasonable. I am not at all surprised that they declined to replace it in that case. You are blaming the wrong party. The person you bought it from TOTALLY screwed you over, not YLL Vape. That is just the nature of buying things on the secondhand market.

I still have my original AE as they were giving replacements without requiring the return of the old one. What is to stop me from giving the old one to a friend and having them claim a second replacement unit etc etc. The replacement units all have a serial number that the original units lacked. I will guess that this is exactly why, but of course I don't know.



YLL Vape did stop sales. They do not sell the original with the questionable insulation. Just because you have one does not mean that whoever you bought it from has not already claimed the replacement. Perhaps that is why they did not want to give you a receipt? Think.

Freedom of choice may be your right, but lets not confuse your right to choose with expressing prejudicial and discriminatory attacks.
It's interesting that you'd prefer to double down on that by conflating with your right to choose when that had nothing at all to do with what I said.


And again, what on earth does that have to do with my comment? You went from a reasonable post in that it was specific - it gave readers the opportunity to look up more about it independently and build an opinion of their own. Then you veer into a rant against a whole population. Painting them all in an unexplained deleterious fashion. Even if a few examples were correctly identified as unacceptable, how does that judge thousands others in a fair manner? If you feel that's a reasonable way of judging a whole country, then you'll find few if any countries in the world that don't come under the same banner, including yours.

You could of responded immediately by saying that wasn't what you meant and was just badly worded, but instead you felt strongly enough about the Chinese to try and excuse it as acceptable, and because of your 'right to choose' rather than an empirical explanation.
(In reality, even that supposed right could be questioned but this ain't a philosophy forum.)


And how do you feel about doing that to whole populations, billions of people, all lumped together as one and dismissed out of hand?

Are you actually making this about race? Im not talking about race and haven't only the Chinese vape manufacturers(clearly written in your replies to). Not even all of them Im talking about Chinese vape manufacturers that are cutting corners on vapes. What would anyone outside of the vape manufacture and space have to do with this argument? Please check back on my messages I find it very odd that your response was to try to falsely paint me as a racist. That is something I will never condone.

Are you actually making this about race? Im not talking about race and haven't only the Chinese vape manufacturers(clearly written in your replies to). Not even all of them Im talking about Chinese vape manufacturers that are cutting corners on vapes. What would anyone outside of the vape manufacture and space have to do with this argument? Please check back on my messages I find it very odd that your response was to try to falsely paint me as a racist. That is something I will never condon

I think you are being unreasonable. I am not at all surprised that they declined to replace it in that case. You are blaming the wrong party. The person you bought it from TOTALLY screwed you over, not YLL Vape. That is just the nature of buying things on the secondhand market.

I still have my original AE as they were giving replacements without requiring the return of the old one. What is to stop me from giving the old one to a friend and having them claim a second replacement unit etc etc. The replacement units all have a serial number that the original units lacked. I will guess that this is exactly why, but of course I don't know.

Are you actually making this about race? Im not talking about race and haven't only the Chinese vape manufacturers(clearly written in your replies to). Not even all of them Im talking about Chinese vape manufacturers that are cutting corners on vapes. What would anyone outside of the vape manufacture and space have to do with this argument? Please check back on my messages I find it very odd that your response was to try to falsely paint me as a racist. That is something I will never condone.

Freedom of choice may be your right, but lets not confuse your right to choose with expressing prejudicial and discriminatory attacks.
It's interesting that you'd prefer to double down on that by conflating with your right to choose when that had nothing at all to do with what I said.


And again, what on earth does that have to do with my comment? You went from a reasonable post in that it was specific - it gave readers the opportunity to look up more about it independently and build an opinion of their own. Then you veer into a rant against a whole population. Painting them all in an unexplained deleterious fashion. Even if a few examples were correctly identified as unacceptable, how does that judge thousands others in a fair manner? If you feel that's a reasonable way of judging a whole country, then you'll find few if any countries in the world that don't come under the same banner, including yours.

You could of responded immediately by saying that wasn't what you meant and was just badly worded, but instead you felt strongly enough about the Chinese to try and excuse it as acceptable, and because of your 'right to choose' rather than an empirical explanation.
(In reality, even that supposed right could be questioned but this ain't a philosophy forum.)


And how do you feel about doing that to whole populations, billions of people, all lumped together as one and dismissed out of hand?

How does avoiding against any (Chinese vape manufactuer) I feel isn't something I want to risk my health on. Equate to me dismissing a whole country and population. Im all ears man but make it make sense.

I would avoid any companies that put something out I dont want to risk my health on as well not just Chinese.

 

[Timps27]

Probably because the Chinese people have demonstrated again, and again, and again that when profit-seeking Western businessmen get out of the equation they can make some of the most exceptional products on the planet. Don’t believe me? Ask Elon how he likes BYD eating his lunch.

It’s generally a bad idea to label an entire group of ANYBODY with anything, especially a couple billion people of which 99.99999999999999999999% have no connection to the one or few people you seem to have issue with.

 

[Dougmeister20]

Probably because the Chinese people have demonstrated again, and again, and again that when profit-seeking Western businessmen get out of the equation they can make some of the most exceptional products on the planet. Don’t believe me? Ask Elon how he likes BYD eating his lunch.

It’s generally a bad idea to label an entire group of ANYBODY with anything, especially a couple billion people of which 99.99999999999999999999% have no connection to the one or few people you seem to have issue with.

Again How is talking about Chinese Vape manufacturers that cut corners equate to a whole population and culture? BYD is a government funded company btw which is why countries refuse to import them. https://electrek.co/2024/04/12/china-gave-byd-an-incredible-3-7-billion-to-win-the-ev-race/

 

[Timps27]

You do you bud.

BTW, Tesla had 1.7 million deliveries in all of 2024 and sales are cratering this year. Meanwhile BYD has delivered 2.1 million in the first half of 2025. Thank you for emphasizing my point.

 

[Flotsam]

Again How is talking about Chinese Vape manufacturers that cut corners equate to a whole population and culture? BYD is a government funded company btw which is why countries refuse to import them. https://electrek.co/2024/04/12/china-gave-byd-an-incredible-3-7-billion-to-win-the-ev-race/

Why complain about China wanting to support its industries? We have stupid leadership in this country. The US wants to be a world leader in Artificial Intelligence (AI) & that requires enormous amounts of energy to run those data centers for AI. Yet that latest little bill strips ALL energy subsidies away. Absolute stupidity on the part of the GOP to sign off on this bill, they will regret it.

 

[Bazinga]

I got a bad taste in mouth (pun intended) with the fiberglass situation so I traded it for a Solo 3 v2. Lost a little on the trade but was well worth it for peace of mind.

 

[Dougmeister20]

Why complain about China wanting to support its industries? We have stupid leadership in this country. The US wants to be a world leader in Artificial Intelligence (AI) & that requires enormous amounts of energy to run those data centers for AI. Yet that latest little bill strips ALL energy subsidies away. Absolute stupidity on the part of the GOP to sign off on this bill, they will regret it

I got a bad taste in mouth (pun intended) with the fiberglass situation so I traded it for a Solo 3 v2. Lost a little on the trade but was well worth it for peace of mind.

Appreciate that, bud glad you dig it!

That Solo 3 is a major win, especially bc it came from someone special. It’s such a solid, no-frills workhorse. Comparing that with the Angus Enhanced? Totally still reserving the Angus for longer sessions that hybrid punch and battery life make it perfect for those multiple-day missions.(Hit with caution ofc) Got any aftermarket stems for your solo 3?

 

[chillAtGVC]

Why complain about China wanting to support its industries? We have stupid leadership in this country. The US wants to be a world leader in Artificial Intelligence (AI) & that requires enormous amounts of energy to run those data centers for AI. Yet that latest little bill strips ALL energy subsidies away. Absolute stupidity on the part of the GOP to sign off on this bill, they will regret it.

Getting off topic, but I have to ask. So... let me get this straight. You want the US taxpayers to subsidize private industry to make rich people richer?