EVERCLEAR extraction

[aesthyrian]

C02 oil usually taste like feet IME. Just a funky taste to it. It seems much harder to make quality C02 oil than it is to make quality BHO, ISO, etc...

It also requires much more investment, so unfortunately I think that is the reason for so few quality c02's being available. I had some amazing C02 oil at the Cannabis Cup in Denver from Evolabs/element 420. Tasted surprisingly great, but it took awhile for it to vape on the nail, like it would just sit there for a few seconds that go, plus the consistency/texture of the oil was so runny that it just didn't seem right. And that's the best c02 I have had.

Plus in CA most BHO seems to be marketed as c02 extract because of legal reasons. This is of course just adding more confusion and misinformation.

 

[darkrom]

C02 oil usually taste like feet IME. Just a funky taste to it. It seems much harder to make quality C02 oil than it is to make quality BHO, ISO, etc...

That is true if your definition of quality is flavor, but not purity.

Again I've never even had it, but I really think I'd trade flavor for purity.

 

[Tstat]

OK, so my ISO came out very dark. It kicks your ass, though and doesn't taste like shit.

The little bits of green came from my fingers, and it was more translucent before I touched it. I took one dab about 4 hours ago and I'm still nicely toasted. I want to produce something lighter, more like honey oil, but this isn't bad at all. I bought some 190 proof and it's in the freezer along with 1/4 of ground popcorn.

Plus, I've got the kid making some bubble this afternoon:

 

[darkrom]

How long did you soak? Did you shake violently? How did you filter?

Those are the only 3 things I can think of that can be adjusted to change the end color.

 

[Tstat]

I poured the ISO over the stuff and shook it for 20-30 seconds. I filtered it through a wire strainer and a paper coffee filter. This is also 2 runs combined. We are going to run the 190 proof in a little while. It's been in the freezer for 3 hours at this point. Now, like I said, the stuff is amazingly potent. I STILL haven't taken another hit yet after the initial one this morning.

I'll post some more when we run the Everclear...

 

[Tstat]

Sorry for the back to back...

OK, so this looks promising. Here is what I made it with:

And this is the results:

Here is a closeup:

It looks awesome, but it's flaky after I scraped the pyrex with a razor blade. Is there something I should do now to try to get it into one piece? It didn't scrape up gooey, but could probably be compressed or something. Heat it maybe?

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[z9]

Sorry for the back to back...

OK, so this looks promising. Here is what I made it with:

And this is the results:

Here is a closeup:

It looks awesome, but it's flaky after I scraped the pyrex with a razor blade. Is there something I should do now to try to get it into one piece? It didn't scrape up gooey, but could probably be compressed or something. Heat it maybe?

It was a

Whenever I get something like that its usually because its shatter, gently warm it and it'll melt into one piece. Scrape when its a little warm and it shouldn't get very flaky.

Edit: When you melt it into one piece you're going to go because it doesn't look like nearly as much as that pile

Edit 2: Did you freeze the buds and alcohol prior to doing the initial wash?

 

[Tstat]

Thanks, I have the Pyrex sitting on a heating pad. I can see it changing already. I'll keep and eye on it for a couple of hours and see what happens. Yea, the 190 proof was in the freezer with the buds/jar all day before I ran it. I shook it for 20 seconds and filtered it through wire mesh and a paper coffee filter.

 

[2clicker]

Thanks, I have the Pyrex sitting on a heating pad. I can see it changing already. I'll keep and eye on it for a couple of hours and see what happens. Yea, the 190 proof was in the freezer with the buds/jar all day before I ran it. I shook it for 20 seconds and filtered it through wire mesh and a paper coffee filter.

tstat, when using ethanol to wash 20-30 seconds isnt long enough. what you did get is probably great, but there is much more left. google skunkpharm qwet and check out their tech. ethanol is much less aggressive than ISO. during the soak, leave it in the freezer for 3 mins gently shaking it after each minute. then separate it quick.

on my phone now, but will post the link when i get home.

*edit* http://skunkpharmresearch.com/qwet-extraction/

 

[darkrom]

tstat, when using ethanol to wash 20-30 seconds isnt long enough. what you did get is probably great, but there is much more left. google skunkpharm qwet and check out their tech. ethanol is much less aggressive than ISO. during the soak, leave it in the freezer for 3 mins gently shaking it after each minute. then separate it quick.

on my phone now, but will post the link when i get home.

*edit* http://skunkpharmresearch.com/qwet-extraction/

When I do 3 minute soaks as suggested I get blacker goop. I will be doing a 30 sec wash, THEN a 3 minute wash after because the difference in quality is huge.

 

[2clicker]

When I do 3 minute soaks as suggested I get blacker goop. I will be doing a 30 sec wash, THEN a 3 minute wash after because the difference in quality is huge.

thats weird... i used the 3 min method my last go around and produced easily the best shatter ive ever made. golden amber and very clear. was your soak a frozen soak? leaving it the freezer only removing it for a quick shake...?

 

[darkrom]

thats weird... i used the 3 min method my last go around and produced easily the best shatter ive ever made. golden amber and very clear. was your soak a frozen soak? leaving it the freezer only removing it for a quick shake...?

It was NOT frozen, which could be the reason.

 

[z9]

It was NOT frozen, which could be the reason.

It was NOT frozen, which "is" the reason.

Fixed!

Its possible to do three minute washes with iso and still get a high quality extract, you just have to get the temperature as low as possible

 

[Tstat]

So after an hour or two, the pile reduced down to a nice piece of thick shatter. I't still kind of dark, but WAY better than my first try. I got a little over a gram from around 10 grams of material. Obviously I need to shake/soak longer or do 2 runs. But overall, it looks amazing. I'll test it out tonight!

So, for $16 for the 190 proof isn't bad when you can produce shit like this. I'll get another run or 2 out of it, too. I have some Chem I'll run next. This was Cindy and BB Haze

 

[clouded vision]

Damn @Tstat that is some very impressive qwet, it looks better than some BHOs i have seen

 

[darkrom]

Damn @Tstat that is some very impressive qwet, it looks better than some BHOs i have seen

90% of BHO I see makes me sick.

My new technique I just tried with an all ABV run was blasting BHO directly into a beaker with a decent amount of everclear already in it. This prevents the butane from ever getting thicker, and the butane is all able to evaporate. Blast into warm everclear seems to be a way to get 100% of the tane out. Once the first hot water bath finished in 10 min I ran another bath of fresh hot water and couldn't get a single bubble.

Filtered this through 2 coffee filters, and into my pyrex with a slick mat lining it. Then threw this mix on an electric griddle at 140 degrees for about 2 hours. I am convinced that this would have been amazing shatter if I used fresh buds. The end product smells exactly like ABV (gross but cool if it was flowers instead) and was very very transparent while spread thin. Clumped into one big ball it is dark, but when you pull a strand of this sap it is very golden. Because the starting product was decarbed by vaporization, it seems like it is completely impossible to make it into a shatter. It was very very thick sap. For ABV its impressive results.

The thing is this BHO I made with 2 solvents is FAR less harsh than the very best BHO "wax" available to me to purchase. I think it is a much purer product. I could even winterize it to end up with an absolute since it is already suspended in an ethanol mix in my method. But ain't nobody got time fo dat. Eventually I'll be glad to winterize, but I want some syringe filters first. I'm fresh out of butane anyway.

 

[Tstat]

So I tried my stuff tonight. It kills. It's hard to use, though because it's so hard and tends to shatter. I can't really get it on my dabber, either. So, I put a tiny amount of softer bubble on the tip of the dabber and stuck a TINY amount of this new shatter shit to it. Boom.

 

[z9]

So I tried my stuff tonight. It kills. It's hard to use, though because it's so hard and tends to shatter. I can't really get it on my dabber, either. So, I put a tiny amount of softer bubble on the tip of the dabber and stuck a TINY amount of this new shatter shit to it. Boom.

The plight of shatter! Glide your torch over your dabber and you should be able to pick up a rock or two.

 

[Tstat]

Here is my second batch. THis came out lighter and much better:

 

[Jman5280]

I know this is an old thread, but I have some questions after reading through.

I have 14grams of ABV, and I want to make a concentrate out of it. I have never done this before, but it seems easy and safe if you avoid butane.

After reading this I'm still confused if it would be in my best interest to use ISO, EC, or both.

It seems like ISO is easier to work with, and will extract quicker, but it leaves solvents behind that should be washed away with EC. Is that correct?

Ultimately, I want what is best for my health, and taste is secondary. If using ISO leaves behind more waxes and lipids that can damage the lungs, then I want to avoid ISO.

 

[Bouldorado]

I know this is an old thread, but I have some questions after reading through.

I have 14grams of ABV, and I want to make a concentrate out of it. I have never done this before, but it seems easy and safe if you avoid butane.

After reading this I'm still confused if it would be in my best interest to use ISO, EC, or both.

It seems like ISO is easier to work with, and will extract quicker, but it leaves solvents behind that should be washed away with EC. Is that correct?

Ultimately, I want what is best for my health, and taste is secondary. If using ISO leaves behind more waxes and lipids that can damage the lungs, then I want to avoid ISO.

Everclear is considered safer than ISO as it's food grade and a less aggressive solvent. That said, if you're just planning on ingesting the oil, there should be no discernible difference if you extract with ISO.

 

[killick]

I made my first batch with EC a couple of weeks ago, using a mix of abv and fresh. A while later I made a batch using fresh herb and ISO. ISO was the fastest and evaporated quickest. I need to try a run with ec and fresh to check flavor, but the abv version was campfire flavoured.

I also found using over 10g to be a bit much to handle. With your 14 g you could do a 'vape-off' after doing a 7g run with each and see which you prefer. Take pix and post your results if you do

 

[Jman5280]

I thought if you use just ISO, that you will still have some ISO trapped inside. If it the impression after reading this thread that doing a final wash with EC would be wise...I'm confused. I just wanted the cleanest product going into my lungs and body.

 

[StickyShisha2]

i have always found that iso extracted stuff is bitter and tastes of iso. Other people love it.
But i see no reason why any actual iso would be left behind if purging well enough.

my tech uses the AeroPress coffee maker and Polish Spiritus (basically everclear)

 

[killick]

@StickyShisha how do you find the aeropress? Any sign of dissolving plastic? Are you using a paper or stainless filter?

I was wondering how it would work. The dripdry process would be done quickly if the plastic is up to it...